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  • Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

    By Jim Thomas
    St. Louis Post-Dispatch


    Quarterback Brock Berlin has been cut by the St. Louis Rams. So barring an unexpected addition to the Rams QB corps, rookie Keith Null has won the battle for the No. 3 quarterback position with the Rams.

    The Rams were in the process of reducing their roster to the 53-man limit Saturday. According to league sources, the Rams also have released offensive guard Roy Schuening, center Tim Mattran, offensive tackle Renardo Foster, and fullback Jerome Johnson.

    Schuening was a fifth-round draft pick by the Rams out of Oregon State in 2008. He did not appear in any games last season as a rookie.

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    Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

    WOW!!! Alot of people here had Berlin as the #3 QB. I for one had Null before Berlin, all along!
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    • #3
      Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

      woohooo. so happy they kept null and got rid of berlin. i hope null develops well.

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      • #4
        Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

        Looks like the Rams see some potential in Null. I liked Berlin and thought he did a good job in his role, but I'm glad the Rams decided to keep Null and I'm excited to see what he might become. Hopefully he develops into something more than just a 3rd QB, which was all Berlin was going to be.

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        • #5
          Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

          Wow is right! I didn't see that coming. Berlin would have been the safe pick. But, we do need that developmental quarterback. They must have seen some potential to build upon with Null. I'm ok with the move.

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          • #6
            Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

            I'm not surprised by this at all. Null played very well the first two games engineering a game winning drive in the first and almost the same in the second (if it weren't for a drop by Klop). Or perhaps Spags and Co. didn't believe they could sneak Null through waivers and onto the practice squad. Either way i think it was the right decision.

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            • #7
              Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

              they both showed that they were capable of the 3rd QB spot..but Null has a far higher ceiling methinks and thats what probably gave him the roster spot..Null could potentially become a solid starter someday where as i think Berlin is destined to be a Jaime Martin type..

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              • #8
                Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

                Wow...the remake of Logan's Run is in full production. Two more moves towards the future with Curry & Berlin getting the chop.

                Except for risking a cherry pick of Null, I wouldn't have faulted Spags for keeping Berlin. Maybe it was partly a PS numbers game & he was reluctant to have a spot taken by another QB because of our teamwide paper thin depth.

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                • #9
                  Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

                  Berlin is not an nfl qb. Its too soon to tell what null is or isnt. Case closed. Neither will be the qb of the future and if either has to play this year we are dead.

                  ramming speed to all

                  general counsel

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                  • #10
                    Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

                    Up side with Null, not sure how much, but more the Berlin.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

                      Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
                      Looks like the Rams see some potential in Null. I liked Berlin and thought he did a good job in his role, but I'm glad the Rams decided to keep Null and I'm excited to see what he might become. Hopefully he develops into something more than just a 3rd QB, which was all Berlin was going to be.
                      I have been rooting for Null all along. Berlin never really appeared to have anything special. He wasn't even a "journeyman" quarterback. Not trying to dump on Brock, as he gave it everthing he had, but it just wasn't to be. One thing really impressive about Null (IMO) was his presence in the huddle and under center. He always seemed in control, and on the occasions when things went poorly, he appeared unfazed. He exudes competitiveness - again just my opinion. Thanks to Direct TV and NFL Network, I was able to have a much more detailed look than in previous years' Ram preseason games. I agree with GC that it's too soon to know what Keith is or isn't at this point, but there is something about him that inclines me to think he has "it." The players seemed to respond to him well .. We'll see I guess. I'm glad he made the team ..

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                      • #12
                        Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

                        When they're both of the same skill level now, you always go with the rokkie because he's not hit his ceiling yet. I'm afraid Berlin has. Besides, they brought in Null, they inherited Berlin. Null wins that battle very time.
                        I believe!:ram:

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                        • #13
                          Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

                          Originally posted by general counsel View Post
                          Berlin is not an nfl qb. Its too soon to tell what null is or isnt. Case closed. Neither will be the qb of the future and if either has to play this year we are dead.
                          Come on GC, you say Null won't be the QB of the future from watching a few preseason games? I know he's got a huge hill to climb as a #3 guy and the odds are against him, but that's exactly where Bulger was at one time before going to multiple Pro Bowl's. I understand that you're a realist, but I wouldn't write him off just yet.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

                            I can't say i didn't see this one coming. Null has great potential. I like the choice.
                            LA RAMMER

                            It's Jim not Chris
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8

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                            • #15
                              Re: Berlin cut, Null stays as Rams No. 3 QB

                              Originally posted by general counsel View Post
                              ............Neither will be the qb of the future and .............

                              ramming speed to all

                              general counsel
                              Can't agree with you here GC. He wasn't Matt Ryan coming out, but one college career and one training camp, and I don't think anyone yet knows if he can be a QB of the future. I am almost positive nobody thought Kurt Warner was anything much after his first training camp.

                              I like what this kids has done and shown so far.
                              Semper Fi!

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                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Looks Like It Will Be A Tough Decision Between Berlin And Null
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                How close are these guys? If tonight was supposed to make things clear, I'm not sure that happened. Null did well, but looked a bit shakey at times, while Berlin had a good night and looked very poised. There will no doubt be many factors in deciding who makes the final roster, but this looks to be a tough call for the Rams.
                                -09-03-2009, 09:36 PM
                              • r8rh8rmike
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                                by r8rh8rmike
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                                08/27/2009

                                CINCINNATI — Brock Berlin has been at this now for five preseasons, striding that fine line every August between the life of an NFL quarterback and the unemployment line.

                                For all those two-a-days spent looking up on the depth chart and those cutdown days hoping the phone doesn't ring, he has only two regular-season games and 31 regular-season passes to show for it.

                                Berlin's one true moment on center stage came two years ago in Paul Brown Stadium, where the Rams play the Cincinnati Bengals tonight in their third preseason game of 2009. On Dec. 12, 2007, Berlin made his NFL debut and one and only NFL start for the Rams.

                                The results weren't overwhelming, but they weren't disastrous. Especially considering Berlin had been on the active roster less than two weeks before his start and had exactly one practice day with the first-team offense before kickoff.

                                With both Marc Bulger (concussion) and Gus Frerotte (shoulder) sidelined by injury, Berlin completed 17 of 28 passes for 153 yards and an interception that day in a 19-10 loss to the Bengals. The Rams' only touchdown came on an interception return by cornerback Fakhir Brown.

                                "It'll be neat to go back and play there," Berlin said. "Really, it's just another preseason game but obviously, it's the first place I've started. Maybe it'll be a little better weather this time."

                                That's a certainty, considering it was 38 degrees and rainy at kickoff in '07.

                                This August, nothing has changed about

                                Berlin's job status. Once again he's fighting for a roster spot. This time the competition for the No. 3 job comes from Keith Null, a sixth-round draft pick from West Texas A&M.

                                "You really don't have time to worry — I've always said that," Berlin said. "I've been in this position every year. You just go out and you play and you handle your business, and at the end of the day, you let things fall the way that they will."

                                Null might have an edge because he was brought in by the current regime. Berlin, whose only other regular-season passes (three) came off the bench last season against Chicago, is a holdover from the Scott Linehan era.

                                But Berlin, 28, isn't making it easy on Null. He completed five of eight passes for 71 yards and a 130.7 passer rating last Friday against Atlanta. He accounted for the Rams' only touchdown on a 20-yard pass to Derek Stanley in the third quarter.

                                A week earlier against the New York Jets, Berlin's night ended early when he was brought down on a questionable hit by Jets defensive end Zach Potter and left the game with a sore knee.

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                                -08-26-2009, 10:43 PM
                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Berlin. Null Ready For Final Audition
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                Berlin, Null Ready for Final Audition
                                Wednesday, September 2, 2009


                                By Nick Wagoner
                                Senior Writer

                                More often than not, the fourth and final game of the NFL’s preseason slate is viewed in two ways.

                                First, it’s the game in which the players at the top of the depth chart get the least amount of playing time. In direct correlation to that, it is also the game in which the guys on the bottom of the depth chart get one last shot to prove they belong on an NFL roster.

                                It’s no different in St. Louis where the prize for Thursday night’s game against Kansas City goes far beyond the Governor’s Cup for most of the players.

                                It’s not certain how much they will play against the Chiefs but there’s no doubt that Keith Null and Brock Berlin will get a majority of the time handling the quarterback duties against Kansas City.

                                Starter Marc Bulger has already been ruled out because of a broken pinkie and Kyle Boller will likely be protected aside from maybe one or two potential series. The rest of the game will belong to Berlin and Null.

                                And the player that performs best could well move ahead in the race for what is likely to be the third and final roster spot at the position.

                                “I’m just excited to get out there and play this week,” Berlin said. “Obviously, it’s always fun when you can get out there and be able to perform.”

                                For Berlin, this part of the deal is old hat. In this, his third season in the league, Berlin has found himself embroiled in a heated competition for his job every year.

                                While competition is encouraged and desired at every position, few offer the ability to make an immediate determination on how a player has done like quarterback.

                                In 2007, Berlin earned a spot on the practice squad out of training camp and after injuries hit found himself starting a game against Cincinnati on Dec. 9 of that year.

                                Last year, Berlin emerged victorious against veteran Bruce Gradkowski after posting stellar numbers in his preseason opportunities.

                                Since he came into the league in 2005 with Miami, Berlin has had a knack for performing well with his job on the line. In preseason games, he’s posted a rating of 92.0 while throwing for 823 yards, four touchdowns and two interceptions with a 67 percent completion rate.
                                Berlin says he has always approached the game as though he’s the No. 1 quarterback and that has helped him immensely in playing well in the preseason.

                                “That’s what you want,” Berlin said. “You want to be out there playing. The way you have to approach each day as if you are going to be the guy. That’s what I have always done, prepare to be the starter and you never know when the opportunity is going to come so you go out and practice every day like you are going to be the guy and when that shot comes, you take it.”...
                                -09-02-2009, 01:08 PM
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                                Does he, or doesn't he? Version 2.0: Keith Null
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                                in this version i will be askin if Keith null beats out Brock berlin to be the 3rd QB this season..

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                                -08-27-2009, 12:06 AM
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                                so will keith finish up the second half tonight? i expect kyle and brock to split the 1st half with keith finishing the game up.. does that sound fair?
                                -09-03-2009, 03:00 PM
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