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  • The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

    A new era in Rams football began today, but the results looked about the same as our last couple of years. There were some positives today, specifically the play of Laurianitis (14 tackles, 10 solo), but on the whole, the Rams were undisciplined and made many crucial errors that cost them any chance of winning this game. Lousy offensive line play and no functioning pass rush were certainly at fault today, but the key today was 10 penalties for 85 yards, including an inexcusable 12 men on the field penalty that negated the blocked field goal for a td that would have tied the game at 7 just before half.

    The Good

    Laurianitis performed very well. In addition to the 14 tackles, he also recovered a fumble. We have our middle linebacker for the next several years.
    Donnie Jones is just fantastic. What a weapon. 8 punts for a 50.8 average, two inside the 20, and one 60 yarder to the one yard line.
    OJ had an INT and a fumble recovery
    I thought wade played pretty well, especially given that we had no functional pass rush.
    Vrboda had 8 tackles and looked fine.
    Great blocked fg by ayu and runback by butler for the called back td

    The Bad

    Josh Brown missed an easy 37 yarder early in the game. No excuse.
    No pass rush at all.
    No functioning defense in the second half (see the 62 yard run and the 99 yard drive)
    Lousy offensive line play. If you look at the stats for jackson (67 yards) and bulger (191 yards) and take out the yardage in garbage time at the end, you will see that there was very very limited production out of the offense. We cant get the ball down the field as bulger will get killed (although bulger threw a nice ball in the first half that robinson couldnt pull down when it hit him directly on the shoulder pads)
    I have personally had it with incognito and his false starts and two personnel fouls. We arent even remotely good enough to give up yardage on stupid undisciplined penalties. I dont care anymore about his upset. This is a new era for the rams and i dont see cogs as a part of it.
    Why didnt spags go for the 52 yard field goal early on? Josh Brown should make that kick in those conditions 4 out of 5 times. Too conservative.

    The ugly

    12 men on the field costing us a td? Ugly, ugly, ugly.
    10 penalties (9 of which were in the first half when we had plenty of chances)
    2-12 on 3rd down is very ugly and it wont cut it.
    Allowing 8-15 on 3rd down to the other team is also ugly.
    Whats a ram game without at least one run of over 50 yards allowed (62 for a td)
    Less than 200 yards offense before garbage time at the very end
    Fumble on the opening kickoff return of the season? I dont see avery back there when he didnt do it all preseason. Too risky injury wise.


    Bring on the Redskins, the Rams have a long long way to go. Its liikely to be a very long year.

    Ramming speed to all

    general counsel

  • #2
    Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

    Likely going to be a long year indeed... sigh... here there is still watching the games for the love of the rams right?

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    • #3
      Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

      Yes another long year, such the life of being a rams fan this will take time and it will be painful.
      :ramlogo:

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      • #4
        Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

        Today was not a suprise, much like ESPN does on their pregame show let's look at who has the edge in the following categories:

        OL-SEA
        DL-SEA
        WR-SEA
        TE-SEA
        WR-SEA

        It all comes down to talent guys, and we do not have alot of it at this time, we need two years of good drafting and FA moves, but you have to love the fact that the guys didn't give up today like they did last year. Here's to next week!

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        • #5
          Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

          Only positive thing we saw today was fight to the end....

          Other than that...bleh

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          • #6
            Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

            CG, your G / B / U bullets are accurate. Yes, unfortunately in a game like this 1st one ... the 'good' is plastered and trampled by the bad and the ugly little men of the mind.

            That blocked FG that turned into a would-be TD for us, that could have been a real booster / turning point to go into halftime tied 7-7. ST Coach McMahon will be feeling that stinger for awhile.

            The score too, zero points ... is too ugly for me to bare today.

            Another GOOD: we are clearly in a rebuilding mode which I believe will really make this a considerably better team before this season ends. We have some good players (including a couple of good rookies), a good HC.

            Another BAD: is it his style, is it the OL? I'm thinking of Jax' little side step or hesitation before hitting the line of scrimmage. This has been observed before. Hopefully it will not become another UGLY. We obviously cannot afford that.

            Caramba! What we need is a couple of good wins NOW. :ram:

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            • #7
              Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

              The fumble on the opening play could have serve as a metaphor for the entire game. The defense came out playing with some fire early, and there were a lot of times Hasselbeck was throwing into tight double coverage.The secondary looked good in the first half but apparently forgot to cover John Carlson in the second. The run defense was keeping Julius Jones in check until they had another one of those lapses that have become all too familiar to this team. Discounting J. Jones' 62-yarder, he averaged barely 3 yards/carry for the rest of the game. We just seemed to unravel out there.

              Josh Brown missing a 37-yard field goal in no wind...when was the last time he did that in Seattle?

              How exactly do you get 12 guys lined up on the special teams unit and not know it?

              Samkon Gado is about the burliest kick returner I've seen in a long time.

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              • #8
                Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

                GC, spot on as usual. It is going to be a long season, but I liked the fire on defense in the first half. Unfortunately, it was only one half, and we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot. This is usually the case when dealing with a young and inexperienced team. Hopefully the learning curve kicks in within a few weeks...

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                • #9
                  Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

                  Offensive line play tops my list, I had high hopes, still very weak. Not making holes, letting guys have a free run at Marc. False starts, drive killing 15 yard un-sports-men.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

                    Very Impressed with Laurenaitis. Once Josh missed that chippy, it was down hill from there for the Rams.
                    Someone's head needs to roll for the 12 men.....

                    Its was No Good, it's Too Bad it was such an Ugly day!
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                    • #11
                      Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

                      Originally posted by Rambos View Post
                      Offensive line play tops my list, I had high hopes, still very weak. Not making holes, letting guys have a free run at Marc. False starts, drive killing 15 yard un-sports-men.
                      Everybody can blame the o line for run blocking but until the passing game gets going its going to be real hard for 5 guys to block 8 defenders. Seadogs pretty much stayed in rush defense the whole game. I think after this week the rams bring in fresh talent at wide receiver.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

                        Everybody can blame the o line for run blocking but until the passing game gets going its going
                        Kinda hard to get the passing game going without a running game. I thought this team was built around SJ not Marc, these are the WR no more coming soon.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

                          I was surprised that they did not try for a field goal early on also. 3pts would have been good to have.

                          Bad - Avery's fumble and holding call that killed a decent run. Zero sacks

                          Ugly = shutout
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                          • #14
                            Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

                            Originally posted by maxxdigger View Post
                            Everybody can blame the o line for run blocking but until the passing game gets going its going to be real hard for 5 guys to block 8 defenders. Seadogs pretty much stayed in rush defense the whole game. I think after this week the rams bring in fresh talent at wide receiver.
                            Even when Bulger had time, it seemed like he just held on to it forever and eventually threw it away. Either he wasn't finding the open guy or nobody was open. One way or the other, we couldn't get much of anything going until the Seahawks went into a prevent defense at the end.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Start of the Sapgs era: The Good, the bad and the Ugly

                              Originally posted by Rambos View Post
                              Kinda hard to get the passing game going without a running game. I thought this team was built around SJ not Marc, these are the WR no more coming soon.
                              well than i guess the rams aren't running a west cost style offense than. Here is a little history on the west coast offense .

                              taken form the pages of sportingnews.com

                              By definition, the West Coast offense is characterized by short- and medium-range passing used as part of a ball-control attack. One of the things the offense does best is set up the deep pass, but the deep pass is not used as often in the West Coast as it is in many other offenses.

                              One big advantage of the West Coast offense is that it can help a team that doesn't run the ball well. Short, quick passes are the best way to deal with having a weak ground game, and a team can get away with running the ball only one time out of every four plays if it gains 7 or 8 yards per run. The running backs have to be able to catch the ball to play in the West Coast offense. In the ideal setup, the wide receivers would catch 15 passes a game, the running backs would catch 10 and the tight ends would catch five.

                              i guess that blew that whole argument out of the water

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