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    Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties
    BY JIM THOMAS
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    09/14/2009

    SEATTLE — In terms of the Rams' woeful recent past, coach Steve Spagnuolo has wiped the slate clean. For Richie Incognito, it's a good thing that's the case.

    That's because Incognito was flagged for 35 yards worth of penalties Sunday in Seattle, two of which were personal fouls for unnecessary roughness that killed Rams drives. After the second personal foul, Incognito was replaced by Adam Goldberg with 10 minutes to play in the third quarter.

    But Goldberg was in for only the rest of that possession — two plays — and a three-and-out series on the next, before Incognito returned and finished out the game.

    "I told (Incognito), I still have confidence in him," Spagnuolo said. "I don't lose confidence in a guy in one game. I think Richie's one of our passionate guys, I really do. He plays his butt off. It's just sometimes, you've got to temper that a little bit, that's all."

    Incognito said he appreciated the support from the head coach.

    "It does mean a lot to me," Incognito said. "I don't want to disappoint him. I've got the team riding on my shoulders on this one — they need me to stop committing fouls. It's something I've worked very hard at. And you come out here and it's first-game jitters. And you let one pop off."

    (Actually two, in terms of personal foul penalties.)

    "I'm going to keep working hard at trying to step my mental game up," Incognito said. "My physical game is there. I had a hell of a game. I played very well. But it's very disappointing to have it overshadowed by stupid mistakes."

    Incognito has a history of personal fouls, and more than one opposing player over the years has referred to him as a dirty player. Make no mistake, NFL officiating crews are aware of his reputation as well.

    "I know going out there on Sundays I'm being watched," Incognito said. "I know I'm a marked man. My reputation precedes me."

    Tyree to visit — The Rams had only four wide receivers available for Sunday's season opener, but that could change in a hurry. League sources told the Post-Dispatch that former New York Giants wide receiver David Tyree is scheduled to visit the Rams today and take a physical.

    Baltimore and Jacksonville also are showing interest in Tyree, who was one of the Super Bowl heroes for New York two seasons ago with his "Helmet Catch" on the game-winning touchdown drive. Tyree also has a reputation as an excellent special teams player.

    Hall starts — James Hall started at right defensive end instead of Chris Long, but Hall, Long and Leonard Little basically rotated at the two end positions.

    Adeyanju sits — In a surprising move, defensive end Victor Adeyanju was among the Rams' pregame inactives. Adeyanju, who has started 25 games over three seasons with St. Louis, shared the team lead in sacks during the preseason with two.

    Also sitting were the two players claimed on waivers a week ago: DT LaJuan Ramsey and S Anthony Smith. Other inactives included S Craig Dahl (hamstring injury), OG John Greco (wrist), OG Roger Allen III, and OT Eric Young.

    Linebacker Larry Grant (knee) played despite being unofficially ruled out by Spagnuolo last Monday.

    For openers — The Rams are now 8-7 in season openers since the move to St. Louis. Over that span, the team has never had a .500 or better record after losing its opener.

  • #2
    Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

    He knows he's being watched, he knows that he's a marked man... and yet he still doesn't do anything to keep himself from being stupid and getting penalized. I'm through with Cogs. I'm mad that Spags put him back in, I think he should have sat for the rest of the game at least.
    I believe!:ram:

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    • #3
      Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

      "My physical game is there. I had a hell of a game. I played very well. But it's very disappointing to have it overshadowed by stupid mistakes."

      Wrong. You played like crap and should never have been allowed back in the game.

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      • #4
        Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

        Originally posted by ScottD413 View Post
        "My physical game is there. I had a hell of a game. I played very well. But it's very disappointing to have it overshadowed by stupid mistakes."

        Wrong. You played like crap and should never have been allowed back in the game.
        You can't say that he wasnt pushing people around all day, becuase he was. He is a hot head, but is still our best run blocker. I believe that he cost us the game with hs drive killing penalties, but I don't think he should be cut. He cant let it happen again because there comes a time when an offensive lineman becomes more of a detrement than an assett. I think Cogs can still contribute to this team, but if he doesn't shape up he will be looking for a new job.

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        • #5
          Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

          Screw the refs that officiated the game in seattle! Bunch of boneheaded one-way calling idiots!

          They allowed some crap to start early on and there was some definate taunting on the part of seattle players. Maybe it's going to take a few penalties until teams stop getting away with pushing the Rams around. Cogs barely pushed they guy in the shoulder and he takes a flop backwards. The ref then knee jerk reacts to the flop, the crowd, and throws the flag. The guy was holding Cogs down by the neck after the whistle blew. Total BS call!

          Get to the dome St. Louis based Fans and make some noise when seattle comes calling.



          :helmet:

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          • #6
            Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

            I can't believe he said he had a hell of a game!!! What the **** is he smoking. If that was a hell of a game we as fan's are in for a longer season then expected. I don't even want to see what happpens when he plays badly!!
            What a bafoon.

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            • #7
              Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

              Originally posted by C-Mob 71 View Post
              You can't say that he wasnt pushing people around all day, becuase he was. He is a hot head, but is still our best run blocker. I believe that he cost us the game with hs drive killing penalties, but I don't think he should be cut. He cant let it happen again because there comes a time when an offensive lineman becomes more of a detrement than an assett. I think Cogs can still contribute to this team, but if he doesn't shape up he will be looking for a new job.
              He's also our worst pass blocker. We've got to find more agile offensive linemen.

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              • #8
                Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

                Incognito said. "My physical game is there. I had a hell of a game. I played very well.
                .....and in a related story, the National Institute of Health released a report today linking short-term memory loss and delusions of grandeur with full arm tattoos and binge fast-food consumption.
                The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                • #9
                  Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

                  Well, apparently Spags wants that kind of emotion out on the field, or else he wouldn't have put him back in and then defended him so well after the game. Looks like his job is safe for the time being. Maybe till Greco's back...
                  I believe!:ram:

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                  • #10
                    Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

                    Originally posted by C-Mob 71 View Post
                    You can't say that he wasnt pushing people around all day, becuase he was. He is a hot head, but is still our best run blocker. I believe that he cost us the game with hs drive killing penalties, but I don't think he should be cut. He cant let it happen again because there comes a time when an offensive lineman becomes more of a detrement than an assett. I think Cogs can still contribute to this team, but if he doesn't shape up he will be looking for a new job.
                    That would be a convincing argument if we hadn't gotten jack diddly on the ground yesterday. When you combine that with his pass protection (Tatupu sack anyone?), he really brings nothing to the table. Except stupid penalties.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

                      Had a hell of a game? Is he on crack? The blade of grass he stood on did a better job containing defenders than he did!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

                        Originally posted by C-Mob 71 View Post
                        You can't say that he wasnt pushing people around all day, becuase he was. He is a hot head, but is still our best run blocker. I believe that he cost us the game with hs drive killing penalties, but I don't think he should be cut. He cant let it happen again because there comes a time when an offensive lineman becomes more of a detrement than an assett. I think Cogs can still contribute to this team, but if he doesn't shape up he will be looking for a new job.
                        Did you really feel the Rams had a chance in this game?

                        I give the D credit for keeping the Rams in the game for a couple of quaters. However, when the Rams got behind I had no confidence in the offensive unit at all. They have no discipline and the team work is not there. It looks like a bunch of individuals and not a cohesive unit working together.


                        GO RAMS

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                        • #13
                          Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

                          Did you really feel the Rams had a chance in this game?
                          Up until the blocked FG/TD was called back.....yes. After that I figured the proverbial wind had been taken out of the proverbial sails.
                          The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Rams Notebook: Incognito plagued with penalties

                            Maybe if he wasn't preoccupied with small farm animals...

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                            • r8rh8rmike
                              Rams' Ritchie Incognito: "I'm a marked man"/The Incognito File
                              by r8rh8rmike
                              Rams' Richie Incognito: "I'm a marked man"

                              By Bill Coats
                              ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                              09/18/2009

                              As popular as Richie Incognito is in the Rams' locker room, where he's venerated as a staunch defender of his teammates, he's equally ostracized around the NFL, where he's regarded by some of his adversaries as an unscrupulous hothead.

                              After Incognito was whistled for four penalties, including two personal fouls, in a 2007 game against Arizona, Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett said the NFL "is going to have to do something about (Incognito), because one day he's going to really injure somebody's career. The guy was trying to hurt some of our guys."

                              Last year, Seattle linebacker Leroy Hill noted that there are "just a few in the league who take cheap shots, go low at you when they're not supposed to go low, like when you're not looking. … He's one of them."

                              As a result:

                              — Opponents do what they can to get under Incognito's skin, trying to elicit a reaction.

                              "One of the fundamentals of the game is trying to exploit someone else's weaknesses," said CBS analyst Dan Dierdorf, a Hall of Fame offensive lineman with the old St. Louis Cardinals. "You realize where another guy is flawed and how to take advantage of that."

                              — Officials constantly keep a close eye on Incognito for any indiscretion.

                              "I know when I'm going out there Sundays I'm being watched," said the 6-foot-3, 324-pound Incognito, the Rams' right guard. "I'm a marked man."

                              Incognito, 26, said in the spring that he dedicated the offseason to trying to scrape away that reputation. "Just growing, being a more mature football player and eliminating the penalties," he said. "That's really the emphasis for me."

                              Yet Incognito already has re-ignited the furor by drawing two personal-foul calls in the Rams' 28-0 season-opening loss at Seattle.

                              Angry fans on sports-talk shows and Internet forums have called for his release, arguing that enough is enough. But first-year head coach Steve Spagnuolo is standing up for his man.

                              "I trust Richie — I like his passion," Spagnuolo said. "When the passion leads to penalties, that's not a good thing. But I'd rather have that problem than trying to motivate the guys to love the game of football."


                              'I PLAY WITH PASSION'

                              No one questions Incognito's love for football. "I care a lot about the game," he said. "I play with passion. I play with fire. And I play to win."

                              He's been doing so since he was a youngster in Glendale, Ariz. At Mountain Ridge High he developed into one of the nation's most sought-after linemen.

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                              -09-18-2009, 01:19 PM
                            • eldfan
                              Incognito benched for much of game
                              by eldfan
                              Incognito benched for much of game
                              By Jim Thomas
                              ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                              12/14/2009

                              NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Right guard Richie Incognito let his temper get the best of him Sunday, and this time, it earned him a seat on the bench for the rest of the game.

                              Starting their second possession at their 3 Sunday against Tennessee, the Rams had pushed their way out to the 32, when Incognito was caught head-butting Titans defensive tackle Sen'Derrick Marks after the whistle on a Steven Jackson run.

                              The 15-yard penalty pushed the Rams back to their 19, leading to a Donnie Jones punt. Incognito was pulled for the game for one play but returned for the next series.

                              He didn't keep his cool for long. On the Rams' second series of the second quarter, Incognito again was flagged for a late hit, striking Titans safety Vincent Fuller at the end of a pass play to Kenneth Darby.

                              That made it two 15-yard penalties by Incognito in less than 1½ quarters. That was enough for coach Steve Spagnuolo, who benched Incognito for the rest of the game, with Mark Setterstrom taking over.

                              In the season opener against Seattle, Incognito also committed two personal foul penalties but was pulled out of the game for only a handful of plays.

                              When asked why he benched Incognito against the Titans, Spagnuolo replied: "It's just something I've done. ... I like Richie, I do. I'm trying to help."

                              When asked what he could do about Incognito's anger management problem, Spagnuolo said, "I'm not sure. It's more about the team right now."

                              A team that got spanked by Tennessee 47-7 at LP Field.

                              Incognito made a quick exit from the Rams' locker room Sunday and was not available to comment. By the time reporters left Spagnuolo's postgame news conference, Incognito had left the locker room.

                              "He claims he's innocent," left guard Jacob Bell said. "So we just have to go back and look at the film. When it starts getting chippy, they're going to look at the guy that they know sometimes causes that kind of stuff.

                              "So whether he did it or he didn't do it, they're going to throw the flag on him. They calmed things down. You realize, 'Hey, they're going to throw a flag for anything now.' So you need to just be careful and realize that's how it's going."

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                              Starting weakside linebacker Paris Lenon suffered a hip injury with 7 minutes, 55 seconds to play in the second quarter and did not return. He was replaced by Chris Chamberlain. Meanwhile, starting strongside linebacker David Vobora left with a hyperextended knee and an ankle injury on kickoff coverage in the fourth quarter following the Rams' only touchdown.

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                              -12-14-2009, 06:09 AM
                            • RamWraith
                              Rams like what Incognito offers
                              by RamWraith
                              Second-year player could settle in as starting right guard
                              BY STEVE KORTE
                              News-Democrat

                              ST. LOUIS - Left guard Richie Incognito takes pride in the physical presence that he brings to the St. Louis Rams' offensive line.

                              "How much do I like collisions?" Incognito said. "It depends what kind of collision, whether you are lighting somebody up or you are taking it. It's a part of the game that I really like."

                              The 6-foot-3, 305-pound Incognito has his own definition of lighting somebody up.

                              "That's when you catch one of those linebackers not looking or catch somebody running the wrong way," Incognito said. "That's just a kill shot."

                              Rams first-year coach Scott Linehan was pleased with how Incognito and the rest of the Rams' starting offensive line performed in a 19-17 win over the Indianapolis Colts on Thursday.

                              The Rams rushed for 202 yards in the game and set the tone for the ground game with a 16-yard burst by Steven Jackson on their first play from scrimmage.

                              "I think we established a real physical style of play up front as a unit," Linehan said. "On the he first play, Richie had maybe one of the best blocks of the game. He just came off the ball and created a huge hole, and (fullback) Paul Smith got the linebacker. We busted off a 16-yard run on the first play, which was nice."

                              Incognito is currently the front-runner for the starting job at left guard, even though he hadn't played in an actual game for almost 2 1/2 years before Thursday night.

                              "That was great," Incognito said. "Just high tempo, bodies flying around everywhere. The speed of the game is definitely a lot different than college."

                              Incognito said he was glad to see a running play to his side on the Rams' script of plays for their first series.

                              "That's how I set my tempo," Incognito said. "I go out and try to lay the wood on the first play, and set the tempo and say, 'That's how it's going to be all day long."'

                              Incognito fought through practice Sunday despite an upper respiratory infection that has made breathing difficult. He left practice briefly, but returned to finish out the last hour of work, including post-practice wind sprints.

                              "I've got something going on where I can't breath, I'm all clogged up," Incognito said. "It's no cakewalk out there. I can't get any air. Today, I couldn't breath, so I started overheating, and then my legs went on me right away."

                              The Rams took a gamble on Incognito with the second of their two third-round picks in the 2005 NFL draft.

                              Incognito was coming off knee surgery and he had a string of off-the-field problems that led to his dismissal from both the University of Nebraska and the University of Oregon...
                              -08-14-2006, 05:16 AM
                            • RamWraith
                              This Incognito getting noticed with Rams
                              by RamWraith
                              By Steve Korte
                              McClatchy Newspapers

                              (MCT)

                              ST. LOUIS - Left guard Richie Incognito takes pride in the physical presence that he brings to the St. Louis Rams` offensive line.

                              "How much do I like collisions?" Incognito said. "It depends what kind of collision, whether you are lighting somebody up or you are taking it. It`s a part of the game that I really like."

                              The 6-foot-3, 305-pound Incognito has his own definition of lighting somebody up.

                              "That`s when you catch one of those linebackers not looking or catch somebody running the wrong way," Incognito said. "That`s just a kill shot."

                              Rams first-year coach Scott Linehan was pleased with how Incognito and the rest of the Rams` starting offensive line performed in a 19-17 win over the Indianapolis Colts on Thursday.

                              The Rams rushed for 202 yards in the game and set the tone for the ground game with a 16-yard burst by Steven Jackson on their first play from scrimmage.

                              "I think we established a real physical style of play up front as a unit," Linehan said. "On the he first play, Richie had maybe one of the best blocks of the game. He just came off the ball and created a huge hole, and (fullback) Paul Smith got the linebacker. We busted off a 16-yard run on the first play, which was nice."

                              Incognito is currently the front-runner for the starting job at left guard, even though he hadn`t played in an actual game for almost 2 1/2 years before Thursday night.

                              "That was great," Incognito said. "Just high tempo, bodies flying around everywhere. The speed of the game is definitely a lot different than college."

                              Incognito said he was glad to see a running play to his side on the Rams` script of plays for their first series.

                              "That`s how I set my tempo," Incognito said. "I go out and try to lay the wood on the first play, and set the tempo and say, `That`s how it`s going to be all day long.""

                              Incognito fought through practice Sunday despite an upper respiratory infection that has made breathing difficult. He left practice briefly, but returned to finish out the last hour of work, including post-practice wind sprints.

                              "I`ve got something going on where I can`t breath, I`m all clogged up," Incognito said. "It`s no cakewalk out there. I can`t get any air. Today, I couldn`t breath, so I started overheating, and then my legs went on me right away."

                              The Rams took a gamble on Incognito with the second of their two third-round picks in the 2005 NFL draft.

                              Incognito was coming off knee surgery and he had a string of off-the-field problems that led to his dismissal from both the University of Nebraska and the University of Oregon football teams.

                              ...
                              -08-14-2006, 11:05 AM
                            • r8rh8rmike
                              Incognito Poised To Return
                              by r8rh8rmike
                              Incognito Poised to Return
                              Wednesday, December 2, 2009


                              By Nick Wagoner
                              Senior Writer

                              Upon paying a visit to medical specialists in Los Angeles under the umbrella of Athletes Performance Inc., Rams guard Richie Incognito had an open mind about progressive, new-age treatments that might speed up his recovery from a Lisfranc injury in his foot.

                              But even a man as big and tough as Incognito has his limits.

                              “You go out there and they have this guy for this and this guy for this,” Incognito said.
                              “You want to do as much as possible and there’s some stuff, you think to yourself ‘Ehhhh, I don’t know if you are going to poke me with that needle right now. I am not feeling that.’ I was fine with the acupuncture but I saw him do this one to someone else. The needle goes in a little further, this, that and the other thing. This day and age, there are so many different ideas on getting healthy and so many different ways you can do it.”

                              In the end, all that really matters is that when you reach the end of the rehabilitation road you are healthy. And from early indications on Wednesday, Incognito has finally reached that point after suffering the foot injury way back on Oct. 25 against Indianapolis.

                              The road to recovery has been a long one, one that has been difficult for Incognito to watch, especially considering the team’s record.

                              When Incognito went on the shelf, the offensive line had just begun to click. Running back Steven Jackson had rushed for 134 yards against the Colts that day and the previous week against Jacksonville, Incognito and the line had allowed just a single sack.

                              All told, things were just beginning to get rolling for the Rams’ revamped offensive line and perhaps nobody was providing a more physical, set the tone attitude than Incognito.

                              Making matters more frustrating was the fact that the first game Incognito missed was the team’s first win of the season, a victory Incognito had to watch from home.

                              “It’s extremely tough to sit around and watch the team play,” Incognito said. “When I got injured, we were playing at such a high level. Then you get injured and you kind of push it aside and you are just sitting at home watching the Detroit game thinking I want to be there with these guys fighting for a win. It’s extremely tough as a competitor and it was a learning process. I have been injured before where it’s ended my season but I’ve never been injured before where I had to rehab, come back and finish the season. I am looking forward to finishing strong.”

                              Incognito practiced for the first time Wednesday since he suffered the injury against the Colts.

                              In the previous week’s game against Jacksonville, Incognito injured his ankle but he played through it the following week in practice and against Indianapolis.
                              During that...
                              -12-02-2009, 08:57 PM
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