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    'You can't let passion turn into anger': Rams pay for penalties in loss to Seattle

    SEATTLE -- The St. Louis Rams paid for their penalties, especially a too-many-men-on-the-field infraction that negated a touchdown off a blocked field goal late in the first half, during a 28-0 season-opening loss to the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday.

    The Rams had 10 penalties for 85 yards. They had four false start penalties and three unnecessary roughness penalties.

    "I just got done saying to the guys that I love the fact that we have a lot of passionate football players, but you can't let passion turn into anger or get you off your game,'' Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo said.

    The Rams got a quick start on the penalties as right guard Richie Incognito was flagged for a false start on the team's first offensive play from scrimmage.

    "There's a stat in this league that I think says if you get a penalty on any offensive series, then your chances of scoring a touchdown goes down to like 14 percent,'' Spagnuolo said.

    The volatile Incognito also was flagged for two 15-yard unnecessary roughness penalties.

    The first penalty was for shoving a Seattle player after a 2-yard run by Steven Jackson in the first quarter.

    "The first one was just me losing my cool,'' Incognito said. "It was chippy. It was an exciting atmosphere. This is a great place to play in. I'm really disappointed in myself. I lost my cool on that one.''

    Spagnuolo pulled Incognito out of the game and replaced him with Adam Goldberg after he got charged with the second unnecessary roughness penalty in the third quarter.

    "When that happens to anybody, they get wrapped up in the moment,'' Spagnuolo said. "I talked with Richie. We have a lot more games to go, and we'll go from here. I told him that I still had confidence in him. I don't lose confidence in a guy on one game. I think Richie is one of our passionate guys, I really do. I think he plays his butt off. Sometimes you have to temper that a little bit, that's all.''

    Incognito was back in the game in the fourth quarter.

    "I am really disappointed in letting my teammates down, I let my coaches down,'' Incognito said. "I feel really bad about letting Spags down. But, we're professionals. We pick ourselves up and move forward.''

    The most devastating penalty came after C.J. Ah You blocked a field goal, and Quincy Butler picked up the loose ball and ran 51 yards for a touchdown with 59 seconds left in the first half.

    The replay assistant called for a review, and the play was reversed because the Rams had 12 men on the field.

    "That's me,'' Spagnuolo said of the penalty. "Somehow that has to get ironed out, I'll take the blame for that. I'm sure guys will be accountable in there, and tell you it was their fault, but I always put that on me. It's a shame, because it was a real good play, it kind of turned things around. Hopefully, we'll get another one of those somewhere else this year.''

    The 5-yard penalty resulted in a first down for the Seahawks, who ended up getting a touchdown with 18 seconds left in the first half.

    Uncharacteristic miss

    Kicker Josh Brown misfired on his lone field goal attempt -- a 37-yarder -- in the game.

    Brown, who played from the Seahawks from 2003-07, was loudly booed him as he ran out onto the field for the 37-yard attempt.

    Those boos turned into mocking cheers as Brown was wide right while kicking from the right hashmark.

    Quick hits

    The Rams inactives were defensive end Victor Adeyanju, safeties Anthony Smith and Craig Dahl, offensive tackle Eric Young, guards Roger Allen III and John Greco, defensive tackle LaJuan Ramsey and third-string quarterback Keith Null.

    Dahl (hamstring) and Greco (wrist) were inactive because of injuries.

    * The Rams were shut out for the first time since a 15-0 loss at Carolina on Nov. 19, 2006.

    * The Rams were shut out in a season opener for the first time since a 20-0 loss to Detroit in 1965. They finished with a 4-10 record that season.

    * The Rams were plus-2 in takeaway-giveaway ratio against the Seahawks.

    Over their last three games going back to last season, the Rams are plus-8 in turnovers.

    Yet, they've lost all three games.

    * Steven Jackson had 16 touches, all coming on handoffs. He had no pass receptions, though he was targeted twice.

    * Punter Donnie Jones averaged 50.8 yards per punt on his eight punts. He had two punts downed inside the Seattle 5.

    * Rookie linebacker James Laurinaitis was credited with a team-leading 14 tackles, according to the press box statistics

    He also had a forced fumble and a fumble recovery in the first half.

    Spagnuolo said Laurinaitis got "dinged" in the knee, but should be OK.

    * The Rams had no sacks in the game.

  • #2
    Re: 'You can't let passion turn into anger': Rams pay for penalties in loss to Seattl

    Hey, as far as I can tell, Barron had no penalties! That's a win!
    I believe!:ram:


    • #3
      Re: 'You can't let passion turn into anger': Rams pay for penalties in loss to Seattl

      Donnie Jones is 1 hell of a punter! Guy is a stud and you really can'y underestimate the importance of a really good punter! Incoginto.....ughh you guys deserve better then him IMO.


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        Here’s the full text of Rams guard Richie Incognito’s interview Monday, one day after he was flagged for two personal fouls and 35 yards worth of penalties (coach Steve Spagnuolo’s comments appear below Incognito’s):

        Was it chippy on the field?

        Incognito: “The whole game, it was chippy back and forth. That’s expected. It’s a big-time ballgame, both teams coming out trying to get a division win. It definitely got scrappy.”

        Did you let your emotions get away from you?

        Incognito: “Definitely. The first personal foul, I let my emotions get away from me. Did something real regrettable. My focus is get the play over with, get back in the huddle. I got away from my game plan. That’s something I’m going to have to go back to.”

        Did you see the second one on film?

        Incognito: “I’m running down field. It’s a quick screen. So I got out. I got my guy sealed a little bit. I’m running with him. You can see I start to choke down. As soon as my feet slowed, he kept riding me. There was a guy about three yards in front of me. I could see where the flag was thrown because I had my hands up and I delivered into the guy. But, really, it was a self-defense thing and I plowed him over. Looking forward, a deal like that, I’m going to have to throw my hands up or try to avoid the guy.”

        How important is the coaches’ support?

        Incognito: “It’s great knowing that the coaches are behind me 100 percent. That hasn’t always been the case. In this game, there’s zero tolerance for things like that. It’s something I have to overcome. It’s squarely set on my shoulders as something that I have to overcome to help this team get better.”

        Do you feel as if you’re on a short leash?

        Incognito: “It’s been a short leash from the get-go. That’s been understood since Coach got here. We’re going to be physical, we’re going to be disciplined, we’re going to have attention to detail. We got away from all three of those. Just a bonehead play and me being selfish.”

        * * *

        Incognito’s behavior _ past and present _ drew more questions than any other topic during Spagnuolo’s media briefing today.

        “I know Richie Incognito is the Rams’ 2009 offensive guard,” he said. “I like his passion, but when passion leads to penalties that’s not a good thing. But I’d rather have that problem than trying to motivate guys to love the game of football. Yesterday’s over and we’re moving on.”
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