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    These guys are looking at this weeks game as a must win. The reasoning behind this statement is they feel the Rams are horrible after only 1 road game.

    They went on to evaluate talent.

    Offensivie Line they said ADV Skins

    Defensive Line ADV Skins

    Wide Reciever ADV SKins

    Tight End ADV Skins

    Running Back ADV RAMS

    Full Back ADV Skins

    Secondary ADV Skins

    QuarterBack Washhhh

    They feel the Rams have no talent at all and that the Skins should dominate both sides of the ball.

    Also, they talked about Browns comments regarding Haynesworth. Apparently Haynesworth told the media he plans to let his play do the talking for him....

    Should be an interesting game.

    Some thoughts is Spags knows the Skins well so lets hope the game plan can be a difference maker.

    Go Rams

  • #2
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    I'm still pissed about Brown opening his mouth about Haynesworth....

    He better play better than last week.

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    • #3
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      I'd give us the secondary tbh, the Skins don't have a player like Atogwe in their secondary, and the rest of the Rams secondary is pretty decent
      @EssexRam_

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      • #4
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        Here's a bit that should give those who hate the dissing a good jolt.

        Can it get any worse than being called defective fruit? LOL

        By Larry Weisman
        Redskins.com
        Posted: September 17, 2009




        When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
        We shall see if the Washington Redskins can actually put the squeeze on those lemons.
        We knew before the season began that the opener with the New York Giants would provide a stern test. Playing the reigning NFC East champions on the road was not exactly a gift from the league office’s cornucopia of tasty treats.
        The NFL’s largesse shows up now. The Redskins can’t do anything about the loss to the Giants but their future belongs to them. It can be bright and cheery and polished with lemon juice, if only the Redskins will squeeze.
        What does lemon bring to mind? Cleo Lemon? The Lemon Pipers? Lemon chiffon? Lemon meringue? Trini Lopez and the song about the lemon tree and the fruit that is impossible to eat? The Chevy Vega you once owned?
        Our friends at dictionary.com give us these definitions of lemon:
        1. The yellowish, acid fruit of a subtropical citrus tree.
        2. The tree itself
        3. Lemon yellow
        4. Informal, a person or thing that proves to be defective, imperfect or unsatisfactory; dud.
        All very nice definitions, but they’re not entirely applicable here as we are looking at the Redskins’ upcoming opponents and none can be accurately pegged as trees, nor are any of them lemon yellow. They are, methaphorically, the yellowish, acid fruits of a subtropical citrus three. They are lemons. Defective, imperfect or unsastisfactory. Ah, you’ve got a dud, bud.
        The St. Louis Rams come to FedExField having lost their last 11 games, 10 from last season and a 28-0 dismantling on opening day by the Seattle Seahawks. Last victory: Oct. 19, 2008. That’s 11 months, if you’re keeping score at home. Defective, imperfect, unsatisfactory.
        The Redskins’ next opponent is the Detroit Lions, on the road. The Lions have lost 18 straight. Last victory: Dec. 23, 2007. That’s a year and nine months. Babies born on that day are walking, talking and, if television commercials can be believed, buying and selling stocks and mutual funds. The Lions have won one of their last 25 games. Defective, imperfect, unsatisfactory.
        There are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who lost their last four last year and the opener. Defective, imperfect, whatever.
        There are the Carolina Panthers, whose quarterback has turned the ball over 11 times his last seven quarters on the field? You know the drill.
        And then the Kansas City Chiefs. Losers of five in a row and 12 of 13. Last victory: Nov. 30, 2008. Ten long months ago. Yadda yadda yadda.
        Each of these opponents, excluding the Panthers, has a new coach. The Lions, Bucs and Chiefs start new quarterbacks. By the time the Redskins get to the Panthers, they may have to make a change there too.
        There’s no point in trying to play all of these games at once. Taking them in the proper order is a more reasonable approach. And just because these teams are yellowish, acid fruits does not make them automatic wins.
        Quarterback Jason Campbell remembers well the Rams’ previous visit.
        “Last year, when we were rolling pretty good, that’s the team that came in here and beat us,” he says.
        Yep. An 0-4 Rams team, with an interim head coach, won 19-17 on a 48-yard field goal with two seconds left. Grrr.
        So we’ll assume the Redskins learned not to look past any team without many (or any) recent wins to its credit.
        We’ll also assume they learned a lesson from the Giants’ loss, though this one should have been beaten into their heads long ago.
        “Put up points. That’s what we need to do. Not just against the Rams but everybody,” says running back Clinton Portis. “I think we’re capable of being real explosive but for that to happen we need to start scoring.”
        He’ll tell you what the problem is in that area, too.
        “We don’t score quick. When we score. It’s a grind. We grind you, grind you, grind you,” he says. He’d like to see “some 60-yard plays.” He can probably tell you the Redskins managed only 200 yards in falling to the Rams last year.
        The loss to the Giants left a bitter taste for the Redskins. A hint of it lingers still. Who would have imagined they’d be able to soothe their taste buds with lemons?
        Larry Weisman covered professional football for USA TODAY for 25 years and now joins the Redskins Broadcast Network and Redskins.com to bring his unique viewpoint and experience to Redskins fans.

        Note that the guy used to write for the Pie Chart Paper & adjust your browser's tolerance for tortured metaphors accordingly.
        Last edited by Azul e Oro; -09-18-2009, 10:15 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: Chatter in the DC area

          I too am pissed about Brown's comments, the last thing we need is a fire lit under the most dominant defensive player's a** the week we come into town.... Great.

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          • #6
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            What I've been picking up from the Express, the Post, etc. is that Zorn can't afford to lose to the Rams two years in a row after just having lost the season opener to the Giants for the second year in a row. There was an interesting point made about how the Lions and the Rams only played close games when they had at least a 2 turnover advantage in 2008. The big question seems to be whether Zorn is going to open up the playbook and take deep shots to exploit a secondary that is perceived to be weak or to play it safe with what many consider an uninspired attack.


            And here are just a few observations on talent:

            Offensive Line - I don't know how the Redskins can see much of an advantage here. Campbell got sacked just as much as Bulger last year (both went down 38 times). We lost Orlando Pace, and they lost Jon Jansen--both of whom were in the twilight of their careers. We added a rookie top 10 pick to make up for the loss; they promoted a 3rd year undrafted free agent. Heyer is their right tackle, and when he is in, they prefer to run left because he's not much of a run blocker. Rabach is 33 and probably a little bit on the decline. Samuels is 32 and nursing a bad knee.

            Defensive Line - I posted in another thread about how poor the Redskins' pass rush has been. They ranked 28th in the league in sacks to our 16th in 2008. They're probably better against the run than we are, but Haynesworth is really the only one on the line that might scare people at this point.

            Linebackers - McIntosh is decent but not anything special. Many of us still love London Fletcher, even a decade after he left, but he's 34 years old. Orakpo doesn't have much experience at linebacker.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Goldenfleece View Post
              What I've been picking up from the Express, the Post, etc. is that Zorn can't afford to lose to the Rams two years in a row after just having lost the season opener to the Giants for the second year in a row. There was an interesting point made about how the Lions and the Rams only played close games when they had at least a 2 turnover advantage in 2008. The big question seems to be whether Zorn is going to open up the playbook and take deep shots to exploit a secondary that is perceived to be weak or to play it safe with what many consider an uninspired attack.


              And here are just a few observations on talent:

              Offensive Line - I don't know how the Redskins can see much of an advantage here. Campbell got sacked just as much as Bulger last year (both went down 38 times). We lost Orlando Pace, and they lost Jon Jansen--both of whom were in the twilight of their careers. We added a rookie top 10 pick to make up for the loss; they promoted a 3rd year undrafted free agent. Heyer is their right tackle, and when he is in, they prefer to run left because he's not much of a run blocker. Rabach is 33 and probably a little bit on the decline. Samuels is 32 and nursing a bad knee.

              Defensive Line - I posted in another thread about how poor the Redskins' pass rush has been. They ranked 28th in the league in sacks to our 16th in 2008. They're probably better against the run than we are, but Haynesworth is really the only one on the line that might scare people at this point.

              Linebackers - McIntosh is decent but not anything special. Many of us still love London Fletcher, even a decade after he left, but he's 34 years old. Orakpo doesn't have much experience at linebacker.
              Still leading the NFL in tackle at 34.

              I can't believe they think the horrible Jason Cambel is better than Bulger. Cambel has been nothing but awful since he's been in the NFL. Redskins fans would agree.

              I think this game will be close because the Skins have a terrible head coach and QB and an offensive scheme that doesn't fit with their personel at all. I still have no idea what the Rams offense is gonna look like in a real game where they don't need to gain 15 yards every time to get a 1st down so it should be interesting to see that matchup.

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              • #8
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                I agree. I think we are able to stop their offense. It's going to come down to defense in the game. As stated, they love to run left. That's good for us. We just exploited something.

                I think our safeties make a great tandem. Maybe we will pick them off. This time, capitalize on the turnovers.

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                • #9
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                  This time, tell Richie to not make any personal fouls.

                  Brown better be able to handle Haynesworth this weekend, or else he's going to get eaten.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Chatter in the DC area

                    Originally posted by Goldenfleece View Post
                    Defensive Line - I posted in another thread about how poor the Redskins' pass rush has been. They ranked 28th in the league in sacks to our 16th in 2008. They're probably better against the run than we are, but Haynesworth is really the only one on the line that might scare people at this point.
                    I don't know, I'm pretty scared of their entire line to be honest.

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                    • #11
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                      I love stuff like this. Makes a win that much sweeter.
                      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                      • #12
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                        I'm pretty sure the list was the exact same week 6 of last year when we played them. EVeryone remembers what happened that week right? ;)

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Nick_Weasel View Post
                          I don't know, I'm pretty scared of their entire line to be honest.
                          Well, I wouldn't necessarily want to run into them in a dark alley, but Carter had 4 sacks last year, Griffin had 1, and Daniels has had 5.5 over the course of the last 3 years.

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                          • #14
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                            This is a win for the RAMs. Brown was able to handle Haynesworth in head to heads last season. My main concern is Orakapo. This is a winnable game. And Cogs better rip someones head off this game, legally of course.
                            Semper Fi!

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                            • #15
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                              We need both of our lines to stand up, and need to target #39 more out of the backfield. Zero throws #39's way in week 1? wha?

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