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  • I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

    ... disappointed me the first two games of the season. He tries to do too much ( which is ok with me as long as you pick your spots ) and puts our team in a bad position. Dont get me wrong I am not bashing on the guy or calling him a bust in any way, I am just saying that he should be more selective when he tries to push for extra yards and he HAS to take care of the ball. In my opinion if Avery doesnt fubmle in both games, we wouldve been in a completely different positions. I am not saying we wouldve won, I am just saying in a better position to win.

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

    I'm with ya, even though I beleive we win and lose as a team, Avery has hurt us a bit the first couple game. Donnie is a good kid, but I don't know if he has the skills yet to be our #1.

    Perhaps if he is given a lesser role in the offense, he can make some big plays like last year.

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    • #3
      Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

      I think the hype and high expectations everyone put on him for this year has gotten to his head and is making him crack under pressure. He played okay last year, but I dont think he played well enough to be handed the #1 WR job this year without question. Maybe he got a little arrogant or maybe he's just rusty. I just know that I havent cringed so many times because of a single player in a looooooong time...

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      • #4
        Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

        There is no "hype" surrounding Donnie Avery. Rams fans expect him to produce like any other 2nd round player- not an unreasonable expectation- and contribute to this team's turnaround. So far this season, he's laid a big fat egg and cost us dearly today by making a mistake that absolutely cannot happen given the field position and time in the game. He's got to start getting it together and play to his capabilities.

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        • #5
          Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

          Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
          There is no "hype" surrounding Donnie Avery. Rams fans expect him to produce like any other 2nd round player- not an unreasonable expectation- and contribute to this team's turnaround. So far this season, he's laid a big fat egg and cost us dearly today by making a mistake that absolutely cannot happen given the field position and time in the game. He's got to start getting it together and play to his capabilities.
          I hear you but I do think that our coaches slotted him as the number one receiver too early this year. I was just saying that he didnt do well enough last year for the job to be handed to him the way it was this year, second round pick or not. I think he came into this year overconfident and if he were more hungry to WIN the spot he might not be making so many mistakes.

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          • #6
            Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

            You guys are a lot nicer than me, because I thought he absolutley stunk today. I am not gonna sugar coat it or try to make excuses for him. He played bad in Seattle and played bad today. His blocking from behind on steven Jacksons big run was not necessay. Now he is showing he cant hold on to the ball. I'm not saying we lost because of him, but he sure contributed to it. So far he has been all liabilty and no asset this year.

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            • #7
              Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

              Well he is still young and this is part of his learning curve but he better watch out because if Spags and Shurmur decide it is inconsistency and not a learning curve he will looking at 3rd or 4th string.

              Since we are re-building Avery is going to get more chances but he better take advantage of them. He just needs to remember the fundamentals

              I believe in Avery but he needs to do more when getting open and catching the ball.

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              • #8
                Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

                Originally posted by Punisher73 View Post
                You guys are a lot nicer than me, because I thought he absolutley stunk today. I am not gonna sugar coat it or try to make excuses for him. He played bad in Seattle and played bad today. His blocking from behind on steven Jacksons big run was not necessay. Now he is showing he cant hold on to the ball. I'm not saying we lost because of him, but he sure contributed to it. So far he has been all liabilty and no asset this year.
                Im with you brother, but I think the big expectations are dawning on him.
                Solution: Use him as a slot and put a lot of 3 receiver sets with no TE, or use him in a platoon on the left side and dont let him feel like he has to carry the team.

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                • #9
                  Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

                  He better get his act together. Laurent Robinson is winning a lot of hearts right now, including mine

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                  • #10
                    Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

                    I don't mind if Laurent Robinson wins the #1 job at all. I think he's playing really hard and deserves the chance to lead this wide receiver corps.

                    Avery does need to step up his game. He's a smart kid, so I think he will bounce back. He only played one preseason game, so I expect some rust to be there.

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                    • #11
                      Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

                      Avery has a lot of potential and a good WR but I admit the crucial mistakes cannot happen. I just hope he takes it as a learning experience and in future games minimizes those type of huge mistakes. He's a young player and things happen even thing you think shouldn't so we can only hope that he's learned from them.

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                      • #12
                        Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

                        I'm with Moose and BarronWade. Avery's young, and he's going to make mistakes. He's one of the most experienced receivers we have and that's a detriment to the whole of the corps, that they're going to have to learn on the job. A vet like Holt wouldn't have made that fumble today. But we don't have a vet like Holt anymore, we have Robinson and Avery. They're going to make mistakes until they polish up, but they have the skills. They will get better, and they will learn. I have faith that in a couple years, we'll have one of the better receiving tandems in the league.

                        Robinson's putting up, and should be the number one guy right now. Avery is showing some sophomore mistakes but they need to be worked through, not hidden or punished. He'll never get better without reps.

                        Besides, we're 0-2, and down two games in the division race. Even I can say we're probably not going to the playoffs this year. Might as well get our future the reps they need.
                        I believe!:ram:

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                        • #13
                          Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

                          Originally posted by TekeRam View Post
                          I'm with Moose and BarronWade. Avery's young, and he's going to make mistakes. He's one of the most experienced receivers we have and that's a detriment to the whole of the corps, that they're going to have to learn on the job. A vet like Holt wouldn't have made that fumble today. But we don't have a vet like Holt anymore, we have Robinson and Avery. They're going to make mistakes until they polish up, but they have the skills. They will get better, and they will learn. I have faith that in a couple years, we'll have one of the better receiving tandems in the league.

                          Robinson's putting up, and should be the number one guy right now. Avery is showing some sophomore mistakes but they need to be worked through, not hidden or punished. He'll never get better without reps.

                          Besides, we're 0-2, and down two games in the division race. Even I can say we're probably not going to the playoffs this year. Might as well get our future the reps they need.
                          Well said.

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                          • #14
                            Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

                            Just goes to show you.....sometimes preseason DOES matter.

                            I don't care how good of shape one has kept himself in during the offseason, if these guys don't get in some contact before the regular season things like this happen. He'll come around, but I sure wish he could have been around when the games did NOT count so he'd have this worked out for games that DO count.
                            The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                            • #15
                              Re: I have to be honest and say that Avery has...

                              Letting Holt walk looks even worse now

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                              • 01d 0rd3r
                                Avery Steps to Front.
                                by 01d 0rd3r
                                Like most teams in the NFL, attrition begins to take its toll on rosters around the league the deeper into the season you get. That’s certainly held true in the case of the Rams and nowhere is that more evident than at the receiver position.

                                At a position that was short on experience entering the season, there’s been only one constant. That constant is a blur in blue, wearing No. 17 named Donnie Avery.

                                No matter which quarterback has been under center, the one player that signal caller has been able to count on this year is Avery, the second-year speedster out of Houston.

                                “You get comfortable with certain guys,” quarterback Kyle Boller said. “I just started taking reps with these guys again. Donnie is probably one of the ones I’m more comfortable with because he’s been around for training camp and mini camps and all that kind of stuff. I feel like each and every week we get more comfortable with each other. That’s the name of the game. Timing is what it’s all about.”

                                After an up and down start to this, his second season in the league, Avery has timed his emergence at a good time.

                                It’s difficult for any young player to have an immediate impact but receivers rarely make that much of a difference unless their name is Randy Moss.

                                In the offseason, the Rams’ receiver corps went through an extreme makeover, leaving Avery and fellow second year wideout Keenan Burton as the most tenured players at the position on the roster.

                                But at least entering the year, Avery was surrounded by players like Laurent Robinson and Burton, guys who had been in the new offense installed by coordinator Pat Shurmur for the entirety of the offseason program.

                                Fast forward to now and Avery is the only active wideout on the roster who was also on it when the preseason came to an end.

                                Whether he was ready for an expanded leadership role or not, Avery was thrust into it as the most experienced guy on the team.

                                “I don’t try to go out and yell during the week or go crazy,” Avery said. “I just try to lead by example and go out there, practice hard and hopefully go into the game, play hard and have success.”

                                Since the beginning of the season, the Rams have lost Robinson and Burton to season-ending injuries. Derek Stanley was released to make room for Danny Amendola and the likes of Nate Jones and Tim Carter have made appearances on the roster.
                                The Rams have replaced those players with youngsters like Amendola and Brandon Gibson as well as more experienced guys like Ruvell Martin and Jordan Kent.

                                But none of those players have been around or have the rapport with the quarterbacks like Avery and all of those receivers are quick to turn to Avery with questions.

                                “I just try to calm them,” Avery says of the younger wideouts. “Sometimes, I see them on the sideline with jitters and tell them I...
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                              • AvengerRam_old
                                Donnie Avery, in perspective...
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                After 11 games, here are Donnie Avery's stats, where he ranks among second year WRs this year, and the top Soph. in each category:

                                Receptions: 34 (7th); Davone Bess, Miami - 49
                                Yards: 466 (5th); DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia - 769
                                YPC: 13.7 (7th); DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia - 17.5
                                TDs: 5 (2nd); DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia - 6

                                Now... apart from the obvious - that the Rams probably should have taken DeSean Jackson - what does this tell us?

                                Well, I'd say it tells us that Avery is holding his own among the players he was drafted with. Notably, Avery has been fairly consistent in his first two years, while others have either had Soph. slumps (i.e. Eddie Royal) or emerged this year after extremely quiet rookie seasons (i.e. Mario Manningham).

                                I also think its notable that Avery has fought through injuries to stay on the field, has dealt with a change in offensive coordinators and instablity at the QB position, and has had to play accross from seemingly countless WRs.

                                In all, I'd say Avery stacks up as a guy who continues to have promise. The Rams need to add more talent at WR, but Avery should be part of the long term plan.
                                -11-30-2009, 12:26 PM
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                                Lets examine our future star. (Avery)
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                                Donnie Avery: why are so many quick to judge him? The Top rated reciever in the draft, (Devin Thomas) had one year of production and experts say that he is better? i go by production and donnie to me was the better reciever. some say limas sweed, but he is coming off of a rist injury. mario manningham, he lied straight up to evey NFL team, that to me is a NO NO and i wouldnt touch this guy. James Hardy Is another reciever projected to go ahead of Avery, to me he is another version of drew bennett, the height and the speed are comparable, why draft a guy who you almost already have? so you may or may not agree with me, but week 1 when he tears it up in the slot, while I am not saying he will be the next Isaac bruce or anything, I do think he has the ability to be a Ram Great. Thats My opinion.
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                                Time for Donnie Avery to step it up
                                by schut39
                                With Laurent Robinson out for the season, Donnie is now our #1 receiver. He had an excellent rookie season and I hope that he can improve those numbers this year. I am looking forward to seeing what he does today against the *****. How about you guys?

                                :helmet:
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                                The ball seemed to hang in the air forever and a day and for every tick that went by before it landed, an entire stadium and two sidelines full of football players held their breath as though the simple act of breathing would somehow alter the ball’s final destination.

                                Rams receiver Donnie Avery ran a simple ‘9’ route, using his blazing speed to get deep in the Redskins secondary. Earlier in the game, he’d run the same route but failed to adjust to a pass that was slightly underthrown.

                                This time, Avery knew exactly what to do. As the pass floated down the right sideline, Avery stopped his sprint cold, turned back toward the ball and dived to his left to haul in a 43-yard pass to Washington’s 16.

                                It was a play that would ultimately spark the Rams to their first win in 2008 and the one that let the rest of the football world know that Avery was soon to be a force to be reckoned with in the NFL.

                                It’s been almost a year since Avery made that play and a lot has changed since then. So much, in fact, that Avery has essentially put one of the first big plays of his young NFL career out of his mind.

                                “That was last year,” Avery said. “Now, we have got to make some 2009 memories.”

                                When Avery made that catch last season, he was viewed as a speedster with plenty of potential but he wasn’t considered one of the team’s top targets. When the Rams return to the scene of the crime at FedEx Field in Washington D.C. on Sunday, Avery will come widely regarded as one of, if not the, team’s top receiving option.

                                Since then, the Rams have said goodbye to the likes of Torry Holt, Drew Bennett and Dane Looker. Avery has ascended the depth chart under new coach Steve Spagnuolo and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur based on a combination of speed, improved route running ability and a work ethic that has impressed the coaching staff.

                                “I’m going to tell you what, he’s one of the harder working guys we’ve got, one of the hardest working guys,” Spagnuolo said. “He is always doing that, whether it’s special teams, whether it’s running a route, whether it’s doing extra conditioning when he was hurt…I have got a lot of respect for him. I think he’s exactly what you need on your team.”

                                Avery’s big game in the nation’s capital was the opening act to a month in which he would burst on the scene to earn a nomination for NFC Offensive Rookie of the Month.

                                The following week against Dallas, Avery posted his first receiving touchdown on a 42-yard grab and he followed that with a career-best 163 yards on six catches against New England on Oct. 26.

                                All told, Avery had 14 catches for 291 yards in the month and served notice to the NFL that he would need to be accounted for in the passing...
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