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    Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

    It may have looked that way on the replay, but you have to understand what happened on that play. I just watched it twice more to understand ...

    Avery is lined up far right. His DB is playing zone, he drops and then stops as Avery runs past him ....

    Robinson is lined up left, running a deep skinny post ...

    Horton is playing center field, deep, and is lined up between Robinson and Avery. He is the centerfielder. Only hope on this play is to somehow get him to bite and throw the opposite way ...

    Bulger stepped up in the pocket, he was looking centerfield, likely in hopes of getting Horton to commit or bite to the center ...

    Horton didn't commit either way, and Bulger was out of time and unloaded to Avery. Horton rolled over and forced the incompletion, despite committing some illegal contact ...

    If this is an option route, and Avery stops and comes back, there is probably enough cushion for a completion. Likely this was a called 9 route ...

    Had Bulger thrown the ball to Robinson, Horton would have rolled his way and likely broken up the play. Robinson did have a step on both defenders, but it was likely designed that way to bait the QB. Same with the defensive back bailing on Avery and letting him run free. Bad throw by QB results in INT ...

    So while it looked nice on replay, there was nothing there in actuality. Do you realize how difficult it is to complete a big pass play like that against that type of deep coverage defense?

    The WR would have had to make a play for anything to come of this. Last year Avery did, this year he didn't ...
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    Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

    heart breaking losss Avery needs to regain his confidence and not let these fumbles become frequent . . . he will be fine concentration is key and knowing how to go down on certain plays is even more inportant
    Torry Holt Dont play that

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      Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

      It's just something we want to point out. we want to figure out what was wrong. i didnt think anyone was open for that last play. =/ it was just a tough spot to be in that late in the game.

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        Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

        Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
        It may have looked that way on the replay, but you have to understand what happened on that play. I just watched it twice more to understand ...

        Avery is lined up far right. His DB is playing zone, he drops and then stops as Avery runs past him ....

        Robinson is lined up left, running a deep skinny post ...

        Horton is playing center field, deep, and is lined up between Robinson and Avery. He is the centerfielder. Only hope on this play is to somehow get him to bite and throw the opposite way ...

        Bulger stepped up in the pocket, he was looking centerfield, likely in hopes of getting Horton to commit or bite to the center ...

        Horton didn't commit either way, and Bulger was out of time and unloaded to Avery. Horton rolled over and forced the incompletion, despite committing some illegal contact ...

        If this is an option route, and Avery stops and comes back, there is probably enough cushion for a completion. Likely this was a called 9 route ...

        Had Bulger thrown the ball to Robinson, Horton would have rolled his way and likely broken up the play. Robinson did have a step on both defenders, but it was likely designed that way to bait the QB. Same with the defensive back bailing on Avery and letting him run free. Bad throw by QB results in INT ...

        So while it looked nice on replay, there was nothing there in actuality. Do you realize how difficult it is to complete a big pass play like that against that type of deep coverage defense?

        The WR would have had to make a play for anything to come of this. Last year Avery did, this year he didn't ...
        Don't burst the Bulger haters bubble. These armchair qb's see everything on the field even though they are sitting at home with pork rinds in one hand and keystone light in the other. Don't take the wind out of their sails, without being able to blame Bulger what would they do with their lives. ;)
        Aim high Willis, Aim High!

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          Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

          Jackson was wide open with plenty of running room had he dumped it off to him. Just figured I'd throw that out there.

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            Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

            Originally posted by Warner4prez View Post
            Jackson was wide open with plenty of running room had he dumped it off to him. Just figured I'd throw that out there.
            50 yards of running room?

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              Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

              It would have given them a first down with time left.

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                Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

                I am guessing that after being heavily pressured on the first three downs, that Bulger knew he had to get the ball out of the end zone, and quickly.

                Bulger did the best he could of trying to get Horton to bite centerfield and give Avery a shot. He fired when he thought he had to, and Avery didn't make a great effort on the play. Horton also bumped Avery could have been called for interference ...

                Jackson leaked out at the last second, as Bulger was stepping into his throwing motion. There was a Washington defender standing at the 15 yard line. No guarantee a first down comes of it.
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                  Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

                  Originally posted by Warner4prez View Post
                  Jackson was wide open with plenty of running room had he dumped it off to him. Just figured I'd throw that out there.
                  I thought I was the only one that noticed that. I think he would have picked up the first no doubt.

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                    Re: Robinson WAS NOT open on that last play ...

                    Avery is just returning from injury and had a bad day all around. If you had the choice to throw a jump ball in that situation, who are you choosing? Robinson is the better playmaker right now and should have had the chance to make a play. I'm always curious as to whether it was a play call or a Bulger decision.

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                      Tuesday, May 25, 2010





                      Donnie Avery is healthy. Laurent Robinson is healthy. And while the 2010 season opener is more than three months away, this could be potentially great news for the St. Louis Rams offense.


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                    • 39thebeast
                      How much do we miss Robinson?
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                      Stats via Mike Sandos Blog. Even though Robinson was hurt week 3 he still has the same amount of third down targets as Avery and Burton with 7. Steven Jackson leads the team in third down targets with 9. Throwing to Robinson on third down Bulgers rating is 110.7 Burton and Avery with the exact same amount of targets are hovering around 67. Among guys with a minimum of 10 targets Bulgers passer rating when throwing to Robinson is 91.2, he only has a higher rating throwing to Burton at 100.9.

                      You can interpret this allot of ways. Bulger needs a true number 1 to be good, Robinson is really good, our other receivers suck, and so on.

                      To me there is a combination in the lack of faith in Bulger and to a much larger extent the WRs. We only threw the deep post or deep out to Robinson and now we don't do that nearly as much.
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                      You gotta respect the deep ball
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                      I know people have alot of concerns about our offense particularly our passing game and how that will lead to opponents putting 8 guys in the box. I could see that early on in the year especially with the loss of Donnie Avery, but once he comes back I think things will change a little. Here is why regardless of there inexperience the Rams 2 starting receivers Robinson and Avery have deep speed and can make plays down field. The one thing defenses don't want to do is give up a big play. If the Rams throw in more of the 3 step drop and bomb it down field like we saw Bulger do against the Jets to Robinson, thats when we can see our most sucessfull run game especially when Avery returns. Also with the 3 step drop our horrific blitz pick up is less likely to be exposed. Lets just hope Avery can come back 100% with no setbacks and we should be fine, if not we will be in alot of trouble.
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