It Is, What It Is

[btimsah]

I've come to realize one thing; This team isn't good because it does not have good players.

I hear a lot of people say, we could be good if we did a, b and c. But that's just it. We never do, these same players never do, because they can't. Because they're aren't that good.

We need to begin a serious rebuilding process. We need to get Null in there asap. See what we have there. Get Gado out there. Play backups any and everywhere. Trade veterans who aren't cutting it anymore (Bulger). We need to know what we have so we know exactly what we need to draft and sign in the off-season. We have so many holes, it'll be daunting.

Spots We Need To Improve;

• WR
• QB
• CB
• DL

We should just start playing our unknown guys. I don't care if they're ready, get them out there. So, again we know what we need to fill in the off-season. This organization needs to stop HOPING these players are good, and get guys that actually PLAY good.

Reality is a good thing and we need to embrace it. I think Spags will.

[Ahmedrams81]

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I agree, we should try our bench and see what we have there. I think Null is ok, but if we get a top 5 pick this year, then we should take Bradford or McCoy. Bulger does need to IMO, not necessarily because he "sucks", but because he's kind of old and very injury prone. We need to pick up a veteran WR, I thought Harrison would be a perfect fit, guess not. Our DL is stacked with young talent so I don't think we can afford to waste any more draft picks or money on that position. The secondary needs some help, OJ can't do it alone.

[btimsah]

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I agree, we should try our bench and see what we have there. I think Null is ok, but if we get a top 5 pick this year, then we should take Bradford or McCoy. Bulger does need to IMO, not necessarily because he "sucks", but because he's kind of old and very injury prone. We need to pick up a veteran WR, I thought Harrison would be a perfect fit, guess not. Our DL is stacked with young talent so I don't think we can afford to waste any more draft picks or money on that position. The secondary needs some help, OJ can't do it alone.

The key is - If we play Null, and he shines, then we can fill another void with that coveted first pick.

[NJ Ramsfan1]

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I agree. This team just isn't good. It is not a case of talented guys underachieving- it is a case of guys incapable of consistently giving what is necessary to win games because they have limited ability. And its a teamwide problem on both sides of the ball at multiple positions.

I think Spagnuolo and Devaney are in the process of seeing who can cut it and who cannot. They HAVE made an effort to obtain guys off the waiver wire in the hopes they can upgrade deficient areas of the football team. It is an ongoing process.

[molar_pistol]

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man, you guys are clueless. try to understand that one guy cannot do everything, there are 22 starters on this team and we might only have 10-15, that doesn't mean you trade those 10-15 because the other 5-10 aren't doing their job...

[RockinRam]

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We have a shortage of talent. That's all there is too it.

[Ramblin` Ram]

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you cant turn young players into seasoned pros without seasoning them...give the kids time to grow!

the franchise may have lost 13 straight..but this team has only been together for 3 of them.. so peeps should quit saying these guys are making the same mistakes that they always have etc... because it was seasoned vets who lost us the first 10 not our current youth developments who will learn from their mistakes..

this season has always been to sensible realistic fans, a case of letting Billy D and Spags sort out the cap hell we found ourselves in and reshaping the roster by seeing what future stars can step up before we address whatever needs we still have next off- season..to eventually make sustainable year in year out challenges for the play-offs ...i keep seeing stuff like bring in Harrison, we shouldnt have got rid of Holt etc...but Harrison is 36 and obviously wouldnt either pass a medical or is no longer able to perform to a high enough standard or dont ya think the Colts would have signed him back already with their injury woes at wideout,familiarity with Peyton and the system etc..?
or any other team in the NFL for that matter.?..
and Holt is no longer quick enough to play the WCO and was due to be paid $10m for this year to be at best a possesion wideout..in our cap hell..it just wasnt gonna happen unless he took a pay cut..but i guess he wasnt up for that..

[Nick]

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The key is - If we play Null, and he shines, then we can fill another void with that coveted first pick.

You sound like a 2008 Chiefs fan arguing that they didn't need to pursue a franchise QB because they had Tyler Thigpen. Unless these low-round guys come in and pull a Tom Brady, then I doubt their organization is going to pass up the chance to add a franchise signal caller if they feel they need one.

[btimsah]

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You sound like a 2008 Chiefs fan arguing that they didn't need to pursue a franchise QB because they had Tyler Thigpen. Unless these low-round guys come in and pull a Tom Brady, then I doubt their organization is going to pass up the chance to add a franchise signal caller if they feel they need one.

I thought Null looked promising in the pre-season, and of course better than Bulger and times better than Boller. And on such a dreadful team we need to see if he can bring it. If he can, then hell we can use our first pick on another weakness.

I don't see why this is so unreasonable.

[MoonJoe]

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Btimsah,

I tried to rep you but couldn't. I think your post was sensible and to the point. We are truly in a rebuilding stage and it cant happen over night with a few picks. We're fixing a "Decade of Damage" and it will take a few seasons to repair. I think Null may get in sooner than we like only because of our protection, not the way I want to see the lad go at it, but it may be just what happens.

I thought again we started off well, but the basics were quickly forgotten. Like holding on to the ball. Many people used to make fun of Ike and Torry because they would go down instead of trying to force the extra yards, but you can see by the turnovers today, that is sometimes the best course.

So yes, to answer the statement, it is what it is, and it aint pretty right now. It hurts and it sucks, but through adversity man is challenged. Where this team ends up is what decides their character and ability. All we can do is hold on until they figure it out.

Joe

[Nick]

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I thought Null looked promising in the pre-season, and of course better than Bulger and times better than Boller. And on such a dreadful team we need to see if he can bring it. If he can, then hell we can use our first pick on another weakness.

I don't see why this is so unreasonable.

Aside from his touchdown pass against the Jets, I don't remember much about Null's preseason. Furthermore, I think what Null did in the preseason, which I'd assume was largely with back-ups against other back-ups, is rather meaningless.

Null showing flashes during garbage games is not going to be enough IMO to prevent this organization from drafting a franchise quarterback if they have the opportunity and the desire. Null would have to come out and completely tear it up 2001 Brady style to have that kind of impact, in my opinion. And I think the likelihood of that is rather slim.

But I guess we'll just have to see what happens.

[39thebeast]

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I thought Null looked promising in the pre-season, and of course better than Bulger and times better than Boller. And on such a dreadful team we need to see if he can bring it. If he can, then hell we can use our first pick on another weakness.

I don't see why this is so unreasonable.

When was the last time you saw a rookie 6th round pick not even from a division 1 school adjust to the speed of the NFL overtake the 60 million dollar starter and his former first round pick back up. That is why it is so unreasonable.

[TekeRam]

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I thought Null looked promising in the pre-season, and of course better than Bulger and times better than Boller. And on such a dreadful team we need to see if he can bring it. If he can, then hell we can use our first pick on another weakness.

I don't see why this is so unreasonable.

Null was also playing against 3rd and 4th string guys who are no longer playing in the league. Bulger and Boller were playing against first team defenses, so yeah, of course Null was going to look good. If he didn't look good, then there would have been no reason to keep him. That would be like saying a high schooler playing against middle schoolers should start for a varsity team. No, it doesn't work like that.

As for the whole idea of scrapping the starting team and trying to trade them all, first off, we're the second youngest team in the league. We already are using the youngsters for the most part. Going younger would just be folly. We need to keep plugging away and the victories WILL come. We're getting better every week.

[btimsah]

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When was the last time you saw a rookie 6th round pick not even from a division 1 school adjust to the speed of the NFL overtake the 60 million dollar starter and his former first round pick back up. That is why it is so unreasonable.

Answer to question 1 = Kurt Warner.

Forgive me for thinking we need to try and find our future starters amongst our young players! So crazy...

[btimsah]

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And to those who don't agree, you are entitled to your opinion. I want to see Null out there.