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It has been another week of pain and suffering. Not one thing is working and the players are just not producing. It is obvious that this group of guys is not going anywhere and that some drastic changes are necessary in order to step to that next level. We can not win with one star on the team, we need young blood and new talent. We need as many as we can get. My solution is for the future and not for this year, maybe for two years from now. We need to initiate trades for some of the teams veterans, Bulger, Jackson, Little. Those guys could still bring some value from the market. They could also make some bed teams contenders. The way Rams are playing this year, they will have high draft pick once again next year. So here we go: Bulger could be traded to the Redskins or Jaguars, both teams could use guy like him. He would make aether team very good. I think Bulger would be worth second round pick for some of those teams. Steven Jackson would be great fit in Detroid, New England or Carolina. I see Raiders paying big for him. He would be worth 1st round and 4th round pick, if not more. Leonard Little would probably end up in Chicago with Lovie Smith, he could also go to Green Bay or Seatle, I think Little could bring in 4th rounder and a player. There are couple more guys on the team that could help by leaving: Josh Brown, Alex Barron, Randy Mc michael. Next year we could pick QB and RB in first round, we could get DB in second round and wr in third round. With the money saved from departures we could bring couple of young free agents and that way fill in all the gaps. In my opinion with the star veteran players on todays team we can't win because they are used to losing.
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Re: The 2009 Rams!!!
you have a right to your opinion and also can have your own plan to make the Rams better,but I don't think trading the best player on the team makes much sense and for some of the others,if they are playing like crap for us what makes you think anybody else would want them,I like what the FO is doing for the most part,it's just going to take time.Comment
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Re: The 2009 Rams!!!
why would Carolina give a 1st for Jackson when they already have 2 good RB`s? their problem is at QB!
why draft a RB with the 1st round pick we could potentially get for Jackson when we have got a stud RB who is proven in the league and only just turned 26.. for an unproven prospect,probably a lot less talented than jax and only a couple of years younger?
whose gonna trade for a kicker? im not even sure you allowed to trade for a kicker..im presuming you meant that and not just flat out cut one of the best kickers in the league..
why spend yet another high pick on a DB when we have a large group of young DB`s already?..a wideout in the 3rd that would unlikely be any better than Robinson ,Avery or Burton?
how come no mention of our D-line needs?
as JK said you are entitled to your opinion and i respect that..just glad we have Billy D and Spags making the decisions over yourself and atleast 99% of the Clanram nation and im including myself in that!Last edited by Ramblin` Ram; -09-27-2009, 07:34 PM.Comment
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Re: The 2009 Rams!!!
You make some sense but then also very little.
You can't just clean out the veteran house. It doesn't work that way. If you haven't noticed we are already a very young team as it is. You can't just have all inexperienced players and no veterans, thats not how a football team works. Also a lot of those guys you mention shouldn't even be on the trading block they don't deserve to be and probably wont be for logical reasons.
1. Bulger-as much as I like him and believe he's still a good QB it possibly might be apparent he's not the answer here anymore. Now i'm not even close to being sold on this idea I give him this year to try to show something to stay here for the future. He just might be able to rebound and even though a lot of the problems with the offense aren't his fault he gets the blame and of course the team might look to the future with as many terrible struggles as the Rams have had. When you look at trades Carolina might be a decent fit if Delhomme proves to fail in Carolina this year. Other teams theres really no path to tell where Bulger could end up.
2. Jackson- Are you kidding me? He's our best offensive palyer and core of the franchise and as elite as he is your not going to just trade him to get value for the future. Jackson IS the future as runningback. Unless some bizzar scenario comes up unlikely and probably wont happen.
3. Leonard Little- I give it until the end of the season as with Bulger. Our pass rush has been subpar so far this season and while Little still is a good player they might want to bebuild at this position. He's a leader and a experience on that Dline but he does have good value. Could be great somewhere else. Its even wether or not he stays as trade options have been explored before with him I don't rule it out, could happen. Unsure where he could go.
4. Others you mentioned Josh Brown, Alex Barron and Randy Mcmichael.
Why josh Brown? He's a good kicker and I see no problems. I doubt some free agent or new college rookie would be much fo a advantage over him. Also as someone else stated teams don't trade kickers. Wont happen here.
Alex Barron isn't the whole blame for the o-line and he has time to develop I say wait and see situation but I see others on the o-linnebeing shifted over him.
Mcmichael, well this guy I just have a hard time giving him props. He's a good blocker but has been unreliable in pass catching and really isn't a elite TE like he need. However he has this year to have time to prove himself. Good as a #2 or backup TE but here its probably #1 or nothing. Might see a trade and value is there.
Now in conclusion I have a hard time seeing any of those guys being traded during the season and a very least should have time this year to really show themselves before even being considered traded. Also Jackson is far fetched as being seen as trade worthy at all he's a franchise player.Comment
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Re: The 2009 Rams!!!
I think someone's been playing a little too much Madden. No one's going to trade us for any of our players except for possibly Jackson, but we're NOT trading him, no matter what the offer might be. This whole thread is laughable.I believe!:ram:Comment
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Re: The 2009 Rams!!!
Why don't we move to Los Angeles while we are at it???Comment
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Roy Williams WR
Rumor has it that Detroit would be willing to part with Roy. Would you be willing to part with the 2nd or 3rd round pick in this draft to add Roy to the Rams roster?-04-11-2008, 09:38 AM -
Mel Kipper has brian broehm out of the first round. Should the rams use a #2 pick to take him?
ramming speed to all
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Ok, so Robert Quinn the big, DE from UNC is now a Ram. This should make everyone happy for many reasons. He is the athletic, rusher that makes Spags system great. We needed a youthful burst from this side of the ball and him, Long, and Selvie will make us happy for the next 5 years.
NOW ON TO ROUND 2, AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
#1 We cannot take Offensive Guard here. We took Saffold here last year to protect our investment in Bradford. We also have money tied up in the Oline. A run blocking specialized guard can often be found in the later rounds of the draft.
#2 We should only take a DT if he is the absolute perfect fit and the guy we want. This is a position that we can plug in vets for another year and maybe find another guy in Free Agency or in the later rounds. It doesn't make sense to pay Round 2 money (possible last year's contract rules) for a guy that will play limited snaps as a rookie.
We have bookend DE's and need to get athletes on the field.
#3 Avoid Kyle Rudolph at all costs. If he was that good he would have went already. In a weak TE class, we could wait for DJ Williams or Housler in the next round. McDaniel doesn't favor TE's and we already have 2 young guys with potential. There are plenty of TE's that will be available to block for our vertical attack later in the draft or in Free Agency.
#4 Focus on intimidate needs to help get us to playoffs this season. It's obvious we may start slow with a new OC and lots of young guys, but come week 16 we cannot have a bad loss to the Seahawks because of our inability to open up the offense.
#5 Get an immediate need at an athletic position. They are:
WR, RB#2, OLB, SS, FS
Obviously, if we are lucky to have Hankerson, T.Smith, A.Ayers there we should go with one of these guys.
But if not lets pass on Justin Houston for a Guard like Wil Rackley because he is rated higher....
I truly believe that Round 2, 3, and 4 will have a great impact on the Rams this season.
WR, RB#2, OLB, SS, FS <---- These five needs should make up 3 or the next 4 picks...
Guys like Jacquizz Rodgers, Greg Little, and any Safety we want will all be there later....lets get athletes all over the field and create a buzz for the future and more free agent guards and Dt's will come play ....-04-29-2011, 08:38 AM -
With Jake Long gone, and the probability of the Rams drafting DT Glenn Dorsey seeming even more likely, Rams fans and draftniks seem of the opinion that the Rams should and will fill that defensive end or offensive line need in round two.
That might make sense, but then again, that 33rd pick is damn near a #1, so should the Rams, or any team, start thinking need that early over clearly better players who might fall out of round one ?
This is a team truly without a real strength area, where no help is necessary, with perhaps the exception of tight end, and also at defensive tackle, with Dorsey safely on board in round one. And really, with Adam Carriker becoming at least a DE half the time, doesn't that lessen the need there already?
Looking at the talent pool, can the Rams afford to pass up a guy like Brian Brohm if he falls. This guy was on a bad team, but still threw for 4000 yards and 30 TD last year, completing over 65% of his passes.
Brohm is far better than guys like Kevin Kolb, who went early to the Eagles, or John Beck, who was taken by Miami. Last year he would have been a top 15 pick had he come out, and the fact is, the Rams may not get a chance to draft a better young passer the next few years without using a #1.
And what about a back like Ray Rice, who ran for over 2000 yards and scored 24 TDs his junior year? He looks to be this year's Maurice Jones-Drew, and is of similar build. He is certainly a better prospect than his former teammate Brian Leonard, and the Rams took him in round two.
Leonard needs to just concentrate on playing fullback, which leave the Rams with no backup behind Steven Jackson. With the team looking to run more, a change of pace guy like Rice would be a great addition. There are a few other good looking backs in the second round area, but they are not coming from a program like Rice did, or have his stats.
Those two alone seem to be far better prospects than Calais Campbell, Lawrence Jackson, Gosder Cherilus, or Sam Baker, who play those so called "need positions" of defensive end and offensive tackle. None of them, especially the O-linemen, could play near as big a part of winning in 2008 as Rice could.
And if you are looking just for the future with that pick, then why not Brohm, who in two years could be the starter at the most key position.
None of the cornerbacks or wide receivers that will be there at #33 are close to those two either, and may not be better than the large group going in round three at both positions.
The same goes for linebackers, which could include a couple good ones, most notably Dan Connor out of Penn State and Jared Mayo.
The Rams may not be able to justify taking Darren McFadden or Matt Ryan in round one, but if the best guys on the board in round two play those positions, the Rams should not let so called need...-04-24-2008, 07:02 PM -
With Cassel going to the Chiefs, that would seem to leave either Thigpen or Croyle available to be had for possibly a late round draft pick.
With Pennington's performance for the Dolphins last year and their drafting of Henne, it would seem likely that perhaps John Beck could be had for a late round pick at this point.
In Green Bay, they committed to Rogers to be their starter long term and they drafted both Brohm early and Flynn late but Flynn came out on top in the job for the backup spot to Rogers last year. So perhaps Brian Brohm would be available now for a mid round pick?
In Minnesota they just traded for Rosenfels to compete with Tavaris Jackson for the starting spot. That would seem to leave John David Booty, a guy they drafted just last year, out in the cold. Could he be had for a late round pick now?
So here's the list I'm looking at.
Thigpen
Croyle
Beck
Brohm or Flynn
Booty
And the reason I'm looking at these QB's is because they are all young, have some NFL experience now and would seem to fit the offensive system the Rams will be running. They all have some mobility and good arms and are all in situations where they should be expendable to the teams they're currently on.
I think somebody like this would be a wise pickup for the Rams to go into the season with a guy who's best years should still be in front of them, who fit what the Rams want to do and who could step in for Bulger should he either get hurt or continue to struggle and would have a shot at being the Rams QB of the future.
In addition, they should still draft a QB such as McGee or Painter in the later rounds.-02-28-2009, 03:05 PM
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