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  • The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Louis

    By Matt Snyder (RSS feed)
    After three Rams losses, it's pretty evident 2009 is going to be a long season in St. Louis (the third straight of the variety). Monday, they received some more bad news -- that Laurent Robinson, a member of the already paper-thin receiving corps, will likely miss the remainder of the season after injuring his lower leg (both a fractured fibula and high ankle sprain) during Sunday's loss to Green Bay.

    Quarterback Marc Bulger also left the game injured, but his injury isn't deemed as serious, now that he's been diagnosed with a bruised rotator cuff. Earlier Monday, some feared Bulger had a torn rotator cuff and would also miss the remainder of the season. Of course, clouding matters is that Kyle Boller came in relief of Bulger and looked far superior.

    Now, realizing they still have 13 games left this year, in addition to the fact that the Rams are trying to make progress for the future, there is already talk in St. Louis that Boller could be the better option as the Rams' signal-caller for the rest of 2009.

    It makes a lot of sense, actually.

    Bulger is 32 years old. He doesn't have an especially strong arm and he's not mobile. Boller is only 28, and he has enough physical tools to have gotten him drafted in the first round back in 2003.

    Obviously, pro pedigree will factor in a bit, as Bulger has the much better professional resume. He's been to the Pro Bowl twice and taken his team to the playoffs twice. Boller was a colossal bust for the Baltimore Ravens after Brian Billick committed to him following the 2003 draft.

    Here's the thing, though: Boller wasn't throwing to The Greatest Show on Turf in Baltimore. If you check out the current version of Marc Bulger (he's won just four of his past 30 starts and has a rating hovering just above 70 during that same time frame), he's just not that impressive at all. It's also entirely possible Boller just needed a change of scenery and/or is a late bloomer.

    After Boller's play Sunday, it's worth it for rookie head coach Steve Spagnuolo to at least consider going with Boller. Marc Bulger had led the Rams to just one touchdown in nine quarters before leaving with an injury. Boller threw two in three quarters. Boller has far superior arm strength and pretty good agility in the pocket. And, again, he's four years younger and playing for a team who is looking toward the future.

    Of course, whoever the quarterback is now has to deal with an even worse receiving corps than the sub-par-at-best group he already had. Robinson led the team with 11 catches, 141 yards and one touchdown through the first two weeks. With him out of the picture, the Rams will look to sign a free agent. The other receivers on the roster are Donnie Avery, Keenan Burton, Derek Stanley and Ruvell Martin.

    I think they need to see what Boller to Avery and Burton can provide the rest of the season before re-evaluating the direction of the offense. We'll see if Spagnuolo agrees quite soon, because Bulger should be ready to return within the next few weeks.

  • #2
    Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

    well Mr Journalist got atleast one fact wrong...Derek Stanley is not on the roster!

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    • #3
      Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

      This guy is a moron.

      As stated on the board before, the Packers didn't have a gameplan for Boller. That is why he was capable of confusing the defense and scored.

      Look at the second half, it looked like he was still wearing a Raven's jersey...

      Bulger will start again when he comes back. Simple as that.

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      • #4
        Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

        Absolutely correct, Mooselini, Bulger will start and that's the end of it. Boller is a back-up at best. With what the team is paying Bulger, he will not be benched. It's not as if we're in the hunt for a playoff spot. The upside of Bulger finding his groove is far greater than Boller. NO QB CONTROVERSY IMO.

        Go Rams!

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        • #5
          Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

          Originally posted by McKnight
          Keith Null "I'll Start"
          Null could well start before season's end, but likely not under the best of circumstances .. If Boller is injured with all his scrambling around, and Marc continues to get beaten up, Null may have to start a game or two. Hopefully that won't happen - nothing against Keith, but there is a reason he is our number 3 QB at this point.

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          • #6
            Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

            Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
            This guy is a moron.

            As stated on the board before, the Packers didn't have a gameplan for Boller. That is why he was capable of confusing the defense and scored.
            How exactly is a game plan so different for Bulger versus Boller?


            Ever think that just maybe the injury to Robinson and the re-aggrevation to Avery had an impact in the second half? He had the #3 WR and a banged up receiver, not exactly a power passing combo.

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            • #7
              Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

              Null playing is a good and a bad thing. He'd get some valualbe snaps in real game situations at the NFL level, but for that to happen some bad things would have to have proceeded it.
              Last edited by Richbert88; -09-30-2009, 12:06 PM.
              Semper Fi!

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              • #8
                Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

                Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                How exactly is a game plan so different for Bulger versus Boller?


                Ever think that just maybe the injury to Robinson and the re-aggrevation to Avery had an impact in the second half? He had the #3 WR and a banged up receiver, not exactly a power passing combo.
                The difference is that bulger wont going sprinting for 10 yards when he is under pressure, that makes a huge difference. You have to tell you linebrackers to keep and eye on the qb so that doesnt happen. The Pack just got thrown for a loop plain and simple. Boller was also dealing with a #3 wr that is playing better then our #1wr and robinson was injured before boller even came in so him being out has nothing to do with the equation.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

                  I like Boller & I think we can win with him but stating that Boller was 'far superior" is unsubstantiated drivel.Even forgetting about the wild early throws which you can chalk up to rust/nerves, he was better with his feet than his arm. And I think Bulger could have made both those reads & TD passes given the same protection.Plus quite a few more reads and completions that Boller missed.

                  When you get to the turning point,imo, in the game for the offense-that drive in the 3rd when The Rams stalled out of FG range, Boller threw a ball into the ground on first down & chose not to use his legs to pick up the first & tried the low % pass to Randy instead. He threw a bad pick that sealed our fate later & could have been picked earlier. Some people loved the block he threw on Woodson. I thought it was a stupid risk for the team in the circumstances.

                  If Kyle is going to help the Rams win he needs to take the good aspects of Bulger's game; accuracy and smarts, and add them to his own strengths ; mobility & greater arm strength esp on the run, not substitute them.

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                  • #10
                    Just draft the qb of the future in next years draft thats all plain and simple no more controversy bulger sucks boller is a lil better but still is sucky and null hast even played a down yet.

                    Draft a qb spags.!!!!!

                    or fix this crappy o line and get a free agent like jeff garcia ( still dont know why we havent went after him after all this time)
                    Last edited by Nick; -09-30-2009, 03:06 PM. Reason: No need for back to back posts, just EDIT next time

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                    • #11
                      Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

                      Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
                      This guy is a moron.

                      As stated on the board before, the Packers didn't have a gameplan for Boller. That is why he was capable of confusing the defense and scored.

                      Look at the second half, it looked like he was still wearing a Raven's jersey...

                      Bulger will start again when he comes back. Simple as that.
                      whats a gameplan for Bulger look like ?

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                      • #12
                        Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

                        Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                        How exactly is a game plan so different for Bulger versus Boller?


                        Ever think that just maybe the injury to Robinson and the re-aggrevation to Avery had an impact in the second half? He had the #3 WR and a banged up receiver, not exactly a power passing combo.

                        Why is it every qb for the Rams except for Bulger is afforded excuses? Everytime people point out the adversities for Bulger it's an excuse, so why is this not the case for every other Rams qb?
                        Aim high Willis, Aim High!

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                        • #13
                          Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

                          ...who is Matt Snyder?

                          Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                          How exactly is a game plan so different for Bulger versus Boller?
                          I would think it's pretty clear that a gameplan against Boller would be different than a gameplan against Bulger because you'd have to factor in Boller's ability to scramble. But you also would have to think that if you can pressure him, you can force him into some bad throws, like the pick he threw in the fourth quarter.

                          Even Green's broadcast partner acknowledged that Boller's legs were something that the Packers probably hadn't prepared for since they were planning to face Bulger.

                          Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                          Ever think that just maybe the injury to Robinson and the re-aggrevation to Avery had an impact in the second half?
                          Do you think it did? Robinson only had one catch on both of the touchdown drives combined, so he wasn't a big factor in either of them. In fact, he was injured for the second one. Avery wasn't injured until the second to last Rams offensive play of the game, so we can throw that one out as well. So no, I don't think they had a big impact in the second half.

                          I need to sit down and give the game a more thorough watch, but from what I've been able to sit through so far, I think the Packers were a bit more aggressive in the second half and Boller just wasn't that accurate. He actually displayed some accuracy issues on the final drive of the first half as well that could have foreshadowed his second half performance a bit, but those are probably forgotten about because the drive ended with a TD. He had a number of off-target throws in the second half though, one of which resulted in an interception. The Rams also didn't appear to use the same kind of quick screens that helped him get in a rhythm on his first TD drive.

                          Originally posted by Azul e Oro View Post
                          I like Boller & I think we can win with him but stating that Boller was 'far superior" is unsubstantiated drivel.Even forgetting about the wild early throws which you can chalk up to rust/nerves, he was better with his feet than his arm. And I think Bulger could have made both those reads & TD passes given the same protection.Plus quite a few more reads and completions that Boller missed.

                          When you get to the turning point,imo, in the game for the offense-that drive in the 3rd when The Rams stalled out of FG range, Boller threw a ball into the ground on first down & chose not to use his legs to pick up the first & tried the low % pass to Randy instead. He threw a bad pick that sealed our fate later & could have been picked earlier. Some people loved the block he threw on Woodson. I thought it was a stupid risk for the team in the circumstances.

                          If Kyle is going to help the Rams win he needs to take the good aspects of Bulger's game; accuracy and smarts, and add them to his own strengths ; mobility & greater arm strength esp on the run, not substitute them.
                          Good points. Bulger has better accuracy and makes better decisions, but he isn't as dangerous on the move. Boller is mobile and can hurt you on the ground, but he'll throw some real head scratchers sometimes, including some interceptions.

                          Some will argue that Kyle's mobility gives the Rams a better chance to win, and while I agree it certainly adds another facet to the offense, I have to wonder if his accuracy and decision making balance things out. For all the talk about Boller's mobility, it really didn't help the Rams much in the second half. I don't think he scrambled again until the game was well out of reach, after his interception.

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                          • #14
                            Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

                            Originally posted by McKnight
                            Keith Null "I'll Start"
                            You mean the guy who told Boller not to lead with his head when throwing a block for fear of injury.

                            Those are not the words of a guy who wants to play right now.

                            /Who can blame him? The best defense he probably faced prior to this year was Division I-AA quality. I think he fears for his life if he goes out there.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Bleacher Report: Robinson Out for Season, Possible QB Controversy in St. Loui

                              If Boller starts, we will score some points but not a lot.

                              If Bulger starts, we won't score.

                              I don't care about any other b.s.

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                              • r8rh8rmike
                                St. Louis Rams' Marc Bulger Is Out, Kyle Boller Steps In
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                St. Louis Rams' Marc Bulger is out, Kyle Boller steps in

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                                Life as a backup quarterback means you're always one play away from the spotlight. For Kyle Boller, that play took place Monday at Rams Park.

                                With the Rams working indoors because of rain, a center snap from Jason Brown doinked off the hands of quarterback Marc Bulger midway through practice. X-rays subsequently showed that Bulger had suffered a fractured pinky finger on his throwing hand. The two-time Pro Bowler will be sidelined at least two weeks.

                                "It kind of not really popped but I could tell he was hurting a little bit," Boller said. "He kind of stuck in there and went for a couple more (plays)."

                                But then Bulger headed off the practice field, and the next thing Boller knew, coach Steve Spagnuolo was in his ear.

                                "He said, 'You've got to go in right now,'" Boller said.

                                Boller took the rest of the practice reps with the starters in the morning, and took the full load with the first team in the afternoon.

                                During a situational goal-line period in the morning, Spagnuolo said Boller "pretty much did all the right things." And in the 7-on-7 passing period, "he stuck out," the coach said.

                                Nervous?

                                "Nah. You can't be nervous," Boller said. "That's part of the deal of being a backup. You've got to just be prepared to jump in there no matter the situation.

                                "It's not my first rodeo. I've been a starter. I've been out there. So I'm just going to go out there and be myself. Be a leader, and lead this team to hopefully a lot of scoring drives."

                                The No. 19 overall pick by Baltimore in 2003, Boller appeared in 53 games with 42 starts for the Ravens. He's that franchise's career leader in passing yards (7,846) but threw 44 interceptions to go with his 46 touchdown passes.

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                                "There's what I'm going to call a small fracture in the pinky finger," Spagnuolo said. "It's not displaced, which is a good thing. ... You can't cast it. You don't do anything to it. He'll just tape it. We'll keep it immobilized for a couple of weeks, and we'll see where we are after that. He won't do very much for two...
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                              • eldfan
                                Bulger or Boller? That's not the issue
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                                Rams backup quarterback Kyle Boller actually brought some energy and verve to a dead offense Sunday, performing assorted stunts and making a bunch of plays to shove the Rams in place for two touchdowns and a field goal to cut Green Bay's imposing lead to 23-17 in the third quarter.

                                Boller would cool down, of course.

                                He is Kyle Boller, after all.

                                Indeed, Boller faded down the stretch, and the Rams defense suffered serious burns, and at the end of the day we saw the same old sorry scoreboard: Packers 36, Rams 17.

                                Still, unless you're a hotshot prospect signed out of the Dominican Republic by the baseball Cardinals, you could see that Boller kick-started the Rams offense.

                                It was impressive while it lasted. Unfortunately for the Rams, it lasted only about a quarter and a half. During this stretch Boller completed nine of 14 passes for 100 yards and two touchdowns, scrambled twice for first downs to keep drives alive and got out in front of a running play to throw an aggressive block for Steven Jackson to fire up his teammates.

                                And just like that, the Rams flurried for 17 points after scoring only seven in the season's first nine quarters under regular starter Marc Bulger.

                                "Once he was out there, the team was moving the football," Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "In the end there, when the defense knows what you have to do, it makes it tough on any quarterback. But my gut feeling right now is that he managed the game and had the guys headed in the right direction."

                                Poor Bulger had to leave with a shoulder injury, and his status for Sunday's game at San Francisco is uncertain. But even if Bulger is healthy, Boller should start. That's obvious. At least he made some plays. At least he performed CPR on this offense. And if nothing else, Boller's mobility is a plus.

                                But the Bulger apologists are already on the attack, immediately dissing Boller as they dutifully stand by their man. Of course, these are the same people who insisted that no QB could function in this Rams offense because the offensive line and receivers are a detriment. MORE BERNIE
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                                I can't believe I'm getting worked up about this.

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                              • eldfan
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                                This was all too familiar territory to him, so Kyle Boller knew exactly what to do. The moment reporters streamed toward him Monday afternoon inside the Rams' locker room, the freshly anointed most popular man in St. Louis flashed a 100-watt grin, confidently placed his hands on his hips and gave the on-rushing horde his best "come hither" look.

                                "So do you need me, guys?"

                                Of course we needed him.

                                Barring some major medical miracle that will heal Marc Bulger's damaged throwing shoulder overnight, Boller will be the starting quarterback for the Rams this Sunday in San Francisco, and perhaps the foreseeable future.

                                "You know you're the most popular man in town right now," someone told him.

                                Boller laughed.

                                "Oh yeah, I know, I know."

                                So how exactly did he get to be so popular?

                                A.) He's not Marc Bulger.

                                B.) He's the backup quarterback.

                                C.) Did I already say he's not Marc Bulger?

                                Boller stood in the middle of the locker room, ready to take on his role no matter how temporary it might be with his normal hell-on-wheels enthusiasm. As for the angry legions on the Internet message boards and radio airwaves who have held endless anti-Marc Bulger vigils since the day he first committed the unforgivable sin of not being Kurt Warner, you could almost hear their voices rise in unison to say, "Be still my heart."

                                These folks look at Boller as the answer to their long-overdue prayers ("Dear Football Gods: Anyone But Bulger.") Boller, who has been around the NFL block a few times, isn't necessarily fooled by this outpouring of love because he's already quite familiar with the standard love 'em, hate 'em world of an NFL quarterback.

                                "Oh yeah, I've been on both sides of it," Boller said with slight amusement. "And I can tell you this: Usually it's not fair."

                                Six years ago, he was a Golden Child first-round pick (19th overall by the Baltimore Ravens) who was supposed to be the answer to all the prayers of a salivating fan base.

                                A few years later, he felt the full brunt of their hostility and impatience, as the Ravens faithful began saying their own ABB prayers (Anyone But Boller) when he turned out to be an injury-prone passer who only teased Baltimore with flashes of promise between too many long stretches of un-franchise-like QB play.

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                                -09-29-2009, 08:18 AM
                              • thermobee
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                                Bulger hurt his right shoulder during the first quarter of last week's 36-17 loss to the Green Bay Packers. Boller came in and threw two touchdown passes, but the comeback fizzled in the second half.
                                Boller is in his first year with the Rams. He had 42 career starts for the Baltimore Ravens, but Sunday will mark his first start since Dec. 16, 2007.
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                              • Guam rammer
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                                Who's starting today. I sure as heck hope Bulger is ready cause we saw the best out of Boller we can possibly see, with the Ravens and with us. If it hasnt gotten better yet then it wont get any better at all. We've seen the best out of Bulger and i'm counting on it happening again but we'll never know until he's in there learning how to play with this line. Last thing we need is to send Bulger packing for another team and he does a Kurt Warner.
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