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  • Is this year's team worse than last year?

    I think so.

  • #2
    Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

    Totally agreed.

    1-15 or 0-16

    we have to change our offensive coaching staff...

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    • #3
      Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

      The defense is magnitudes better, the offense magnitudes work ...

      We would have won this game today with an every semi-competent offense. We gave just about everything to them ....

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      • #4
        Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

        Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
        The defense is magnitudes better, the offense magnitudes work ...

        We would have won this game today with an every semi-competent offense. We gave just about everything to them ....
        ...and still got blown out.

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        • #5
          Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

          Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
          ...and still got blown out.
          What i meant was, we gave them 21 points ....

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          • #6
            Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

            Those Rams who showed up against NE, DAL, & ATL last year would whoop the Rams who played today. We're horrible. Even the 2008 Lions weren't shut out once.

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            • #7
              Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

              The defense is 1000 times better than last year, but the offense is 100000000000000 times worse. Overall, I would say we are way worse than last year's team. I would honestly not be surprised if we had a winless year.

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              • #8
                Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

                The team definitely looks worse, particularly the offense. I'm not sure I've ever seen such poor play on a consistent basis.

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                • #9
                  Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

                  I would have to say yes. However, there are two sides to look at it. Sure, our offense is much worse but that's expected when you lose Holt and Pace. On defense, we are noticeably better especially against the run. That was our achilles heel the past couple of seasons and now it has become very good. Just looking at stats is misleading because running backs have had some success, but that comes very late in the game when our defense is very tired having been on the field a lot.

                  Our secondary could still use some work, for example, getting more quality depth at cornerback, and that would help our pass defense come along. Despite being depleted along the defensive line and less than stellar play from Chris Long, we have managed to get some pressure the past two weeks after coming up empty against Seattle and Washington. I think as the season goes on our defense will only get better so that is a good sign, but I still think this team is worse than last year.

                  Our offense is a complete mess. It has nothing to do with the offensive coordinator; it's the players we have or lack there of. When opposing defenses can just focus in on Steven Jackson, stack eight in the box, and take him out of the game, do you expect us to pass the ball well? No. There is no doubt in my mind that we will be drafting a quarterback come April. We need a new identity for our offense, and I believe that man is Sam Bradford. Granted, we have to see how he is coming back from the shoulder injury, but I believe all of his strengths translate well towards the WCO we have installed. He makes quick and correct reads, protects the ball, and is extremely accurate. He has some arm strength concerns, but that is minimized with his ability to place the ball where receivers are in the best position to catch it. Another one I have with him though is that he has never faced a big pass rush, so I would like to see how he performs with players in his face and affecting his rhythm. As of now though, I'd like to see Sam as a Ram when the draft rolls around.
                  Last edited by Bald_81; -10-04-2009, 05:16 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

                    Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
                    What i meant was, we gave them 21 points ....
                    Oh. haha. I totally read that wrong. My bad dude! didn't mean to seem like an ass.

                    It's just this losing has really gotten me hot headed right now.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

                      Originally posted by Bald_81 View Post
                      I would have to say yes. However, there are two sides to look at it. Sure, our offense is much worse but that's expected when you lose Holt and Pace. On defense, we are noticeably better especially against the run. That was our achilles heel the past couple of seasons and now it has become very good. Just looking at stats is misleading because running backs have had some success, but that comes very late in the game when our defense is very tired having been on the field a lot.

                      Our secondary could still use some work, for example, getting more quality depth at cornerback, and that would help our pass defense come along. Despite being depleted along the defensive line and less than stellar play from Chris Long, we have managed to get some pressure the past two weeks after coming up empty against Seattle and Washington. I think as the season goes on our defense will only get better so that is a good sign, but I still think this team is worse than last year.

                      Our offense is a complete mess. It has nothing to do with the offensive coordinator; it's the players we have or lack there of. When opposing defenses can just focus in on Steven Jackson, stack eight in the box, and take him out of the game, do you expect us to pass the ball well? No. There is no doubt in my mind that we will be drafting a quarterback come April. We need a new identity for our offense, and I believe that man is Sam Bradford. Granted, we have to see how he is coming back from the shoulder injury, but I believe all of his strengths translate towards the WCO we have installed. He makes quick and correct reads, protects the ball, and is extremely accurate. He has some arm strength concerns, but that is minimized with his ability to place the ball where receivers are in the best position to catch it. Another one I have with him though is that he has never faced a big pass rush, so I would like to see how he performs with players in his face and affected his rhythm. As of now though, I'd like to see Sam as a Ram when the draft rolls around.
                      Anybody who claims we are getting "less than stellar" play from Chris Long is not watching these games ...

                      He had zero tackles today, does that mean he had a bad game?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

                        Honestly if our offense wasn't so bad I think our defense would be a young middle of the pack and improving defense, but Offense is absolutely atrocious. To many penalties and horrible turnovers.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

                          the team might be worse overall, but it is also much younger and should continue to improve (particularly the guys on d). i want to move smith to the left side, start greco or goldberg at rt, and see if we can get anything going there. coordinators/qbs need to have more confidence getting the ball downfield occasionally. when the offense is 90% sjax teams can stack the box all day and we don't take advantage. i like the young guys on d, a couple of d-linemen and maybe another corner and we should be very good on that side.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

                            IMO D-line has been our best unit by a longshot, they have been good against the run and they are finally getting some sacks. The LBs are probably the second best, but they are young and they could use some work in coverage.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is this year's team worse than last year?

                              Originally posted by Fettmaster View Post
                              Those Rams who showed up against NE, DAL, & ATL last year would whoop the Rams who played today. We're horrible. Even the 2008 Lions weren't shut out once.
                              How many times did said Rams escape a shutout with a last minute field goal.

                              Our offense isn't that much worse, and last year's defense only stopped people on rare occasions. This team would beat that team.

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                              • NJ Ramsfan1
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                                by NJ Ramsfan1
                                Right now, the Rams are the worst team in football. It is 2009 all over again. Despite massive efforts to re-tool the o-line, assemble a group of competant wide-outs, draft a franchise QB, obtain a new o-coordinator, this team still stinks. Anyone who is associated with this football team, from the owner to the players to the coaches to the fans should be completely embarrassed- as well as humiliated and totally pissed off.

                                Don't tell me about injuries. Indianapolis has lost Peyton Manning and they battled last week. Don't tell me about the hapless Chiefs. Their injury situation is worse than ours and they've battled tooth and nail on the road today vs. a San Diego team every bit as good as the Ravens. Don't tell me Tennessee. They beat the Ravens last week. Don't tell me Cincinnati. They have a win. And every team in our division has shown more than we have thus far.

                                Don't tell me about rebuilding. This is year three. No one expected a Super Bowl this season, but tangible progress was both expected and reasonable. We've seen neither thus far.

                                There is simply no excuse. We've regressed. At this rate, we'll be lucky to win 3-4 games. Every year is the same. You look for reasons to be positive, try not to be negative or disappointed and still get kicked in the teeth time and time again. It got old a long time ago. Down 27-0 at the half today. Horrendous. Games vs. GB, PItt, Dal, and NO to be played yet. We're awful.

                                The luster is starting to wear off Spags. This is a guy most of us were happy to have (myself included) and a guy who has prided himself on discipline & fundamental football and we've yet to see it at a time when it is absolutely necessary to have. The scary thing is that we should be better. You look at this team, and despite some obvious holes, we shouldn't be getting beaten by double digits every week and looking sloppy in the process. Either I and a lot of other people have overrated this team or the coaches need to do a better job.

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                              • xfactor28
                                That was the worst performance....
                                by xfactor28
                                I have seen since the banks days. Not counting the Warner injury season. They had exactly what they wanted on offense, and couldnt produce. The defense couldnt stop a pop warner team. Pathetic. At this point I see this team falling apart at the seams.


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                                -11-08-2004, 10:00 AM
                              • Tampa_Ram
                                What changed?????
                                by Tampa_Ram
                                In 2006 we had an 8-8 record, Bulger was at the top of his game, Jackson had a career year as well with a top 5 all time total yards from scrimmage year. Our offense clicked.

                                So what happened?

                                Linehan was in his first year of HC.

                                How did we go from a year like that to what we are now? 8-8 in your first year as HC is not bad at all. But your supposed to get better, not the opposite.

                                Did the play calling change?

                                Was it the injuries?

                                Was it that the team that played well was still Martz's team, left over with his ideals of how to play???
                                And Linehan had not yet takin over the players and lost them?

                                Was it the play calling? How did the play calling change so much in 1 year? injuries? lack of confidence in the players? the coach?

                                Was it the free agents we picked up? players we let go(Hedgecock, Bruce, etc.)?

                                Was this a fault of the FO? Is management the main culprit in this?

                                What to you is the reason we have spiraled so far down? Because we have i believe, and if you disagree id love to know why?

                                Coming off a 3-13 season, we are 0-2, have the worst defense and offense. Players dont seem to care anymore if they win or lose just as long as there getting paid. Not all of course, as we've all recently read Holt's challenge for the O-line to step up, and im sure there are still many players with a desire to win, my favorite beside Holt is the young, great Chris Long.

                                But of course the main point of this thread-

                                What are the pieces of the puzzle that have lead to us being one of the worst teams in the NFl, if not the worst.

                                I believe we arnt a bad team, we have talent and skill and at least one coach(Saunders)that i still believe in at the moment. We can win, our pieces just arnt coming together, on any front at the moment.

                                So what happened? Well, i think its a combination of all of what i just wrote. Transition, FA, draft, pLay calling, injuries, coaching, conditioning, FO, carelessness, lack of desire, FO, etc...yes i know i put FO in there twice....

                                What are your thoughts?

                                p.s. when will the first win of the season come? today!!!! The seahags are going down!!!!!!!

                                GO RAMS!!!!!
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                                Am I imagining things, or is this really the case? I see the defense getting better the last few games, but can't help to think we will just start this same cycle next year.
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