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    Boller had a way worse game than Bulger ever had. This offense has never looked this bad with Bulger at the helm. Yes Boller can make plays with his legs, but we need plays with his arm. That being said, and I'm a strong Bulger supporter, it's time to give the rookie a chance and see what we have in him, see if he's the QB of the future this season is over unless we bring Jeff Garcia in.

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    Time to join the Bradford sweepstakes.

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    • #3
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      I don't want to throw a rookie into the volcano. "Fire" is too light of a term to describe this offensive mess. I hate to say it, but let Bulger take the beatings until we get everything fixed.

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
        Boller had a way worse game than Bulger ever had. This offense has never looked this bad with Bulger at the helm. Yes Boller can make plays with his legs, but we need plays with his arm. That being said, and I'm a strong Bulger supporter, it's time to give the rookie a chance and see what we have in him, see if he's the QB of the future this season is over unless we bring Jeff Garcia in.
        Don't try to put Bulger over on Boller. Bulger still SUX and his Shut out was worse than Bollers...Surely you Jest!!!
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        • #5
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          Originally posted by dgr828 View Post
          Don't try to put Bulger over on Boller. Bulger still SUX and his Shut out was worse than Bollers...Surely you Jest!!!
          You gotta be kidding me if you're saying that the loss to the SeaHawks is worse than this loss today.

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          • #6
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            I think it's safe to say this teams troubles go beyond just the QB position,there is surely enough blame to go around.

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            • #7
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              I don't think that one loss can be better or worse than another, it's still a loss no matter who is the QB. It's the same result regardless of if Boller or Bulger is taking the snaps, when the D-line is two steps into the backfield before your QB can complete a five step drop your in trouble and it doesn't matter who is taking the snaps. On the rare occasion that Kyle or Marc has the time to set up and throw our recievers aren't skilled enough to get open. How many times today did we see Boller get sacked or Jackson get met in the backfield and there be 3 O linemen standing there to help them up? Someone needs to show these turds how to block, I've never seen a group that can't sustain a block any longer than they can. Don't mean to sound so negative but it's the same thing every week, something has got to change soon.
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              • #8
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                Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
                You gotta be kidding me if you're saying that the loss to the SeaHawks is worse than this loss today.
                I'd like to know what difference does it make? We looked horrible in both games. Is this how bad it's gotten?

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by jkramsfan View Post
                  I think it's safe to say this teams troubles go beyond just the QB position,there is surely enough blame to go around.
                  That's the only staement in this thread that makes any sense to me. Boller DID make some mistakes that Bulger probably wouldn't; the INT would have got an "F" in Football 101, but he DID, as most of us thought he would, keep some plays alive under duress with his legs & throw a few good passes while doing it that Bulger probably wouldn't.

                  The O-line?! Mixed bag. Ironically, the example that comes to mind is the Boller pick. Kyle had good protection on that play; he just couldn't find the open guy in time. Too many runs outside when both our OTs are struggling ,etc.

                  Every player on that offense looked like they were on a different page at times & some looked like their page had stick figures drawn by a slow 4-year-old on them.

                  No, this was neither worse nor better than The Hags shutout but it was different,eg the DL played much better today.

                  We didn't so much lose this game as commit suicide,imo. You do realize that The Whiner offense didn't score until 7 mins to go in the 3rd Q? Injuries, stupid mistakes, asinine gameplans, & just the pressure of a good D and some good plays by a team that is just more talented & healthier at the moment,on the road, has had more stability in personnel and coaching, etc,etc?

                  Let's deal with the real team-wide issues rather than obsessing over one position. Or we could just wallow & bicker. LOL

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                  • #10
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                    It make's no difference we need a new QB plain and simple. I think at this point to try and salvage the season somewhat let's bring in Garcia. He knows the system.

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                    • #11
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                      Boller turns the ball over too much to be the QB of this team We cant survive turnovers, so we need to keep them at a minimum, and Boller cant do that
                      @EssexRam_

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                      • #12
                        Re: Bulger is Not the Problem...

                        Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
                        It make's no difference we need a new QB plain and simple. I think at this point to try and salvage the season somewhat let's bring in Garcia. He knows the system.
                        You don't think that's like giving a cane to someone who needs months of physical rehab before he can walk?

                        The only singular change I think could make a short term difference would be at OC. We need a better diagnosis of the patient before we can find a cure.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Bulger is Not the Problem...

                          Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
                          Bulger is Not the Problem...
                          Agreed, and this is the point that some of us have been trying to make for a while now.

                          Bulger certainly played some bad football in 2007 and 2008, but it was pretty evident that bigger problems existed on this team than at the QB position. Furthermore, it was clear in 2007 and 2008 that simply changing quarterbacks didn't solve everything, and it doesn't appear to be the silver bullet this time around, either.

                          I think at this point in their careers, Bulger is a solid player, and Boller is a solid back-up, but neither of them are good enough to lift this team above their countless deficiencies and mistakes. And truth be told, I wonder if any quarterback in the NFL would be capable of doing so.

                          If any quarterback is going to find real success on this team, then these other areas - lack of talent at receiver and tight end, pass protection issues, playcalling - are going to have to be addressed. Scapegoating the quarterback just isn't the solution.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by Nick View Post
                            lack of talent at receiver and tight end, pass protection issues, playcalling - are going to have to be addressed.
                            I'd have to say after watching these past 4 games we can all conclude that it is the playcalling.

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
                              I'd have to say after watching these past 4 games we can all conclude that it is the playcalling.
                              It's not just ONE thing, though. It's a lot of things, playcalling included.

                              Improvements in one area may result in some short term success, but I doubt it will be sustainable. That's why a change at quarterback in last week's second quarter only created a short term spark that hasn't lasted. Maybe you'll have sparks here or there, but the overall package is pretty bad and needs major revamping if that's going to change.

                              The Rams need better protection and blocking from their offensive line, better play and probably more talent at receiver, and an offensive gameplan that actually punishes teams for loading the box against Jackson. Right now there's no incentive to not stack the box against the Rams. Receiver screens and play action passes are nice, but downfield passes would help. Especially with Avery's deep speed.

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                              • dgr828
                                Is this the beginning of the end for Marc Bulger?
                                by dgr828
                                "Heaven can wait!" but not the majority of Rams fans who have become increasingly dissatisfied with the sub-par play coming from the Rams quarterback position.

                                Every excuse in the world has been made to explain all of the failings Marc Bulger has experienced, the past three miserable seasons in Saint Louis.

                                One glaring stats that stands out and seems to be a major problem for Bulger is "Red Zone efficiency". Any Fantasy player will tell you, the most important thing for QB is getting the ball in the endzone, for the score.

                                Even against the Jets friday night, Bulger looks pretty good between the 20s, but in the 1st half of that game the Rams can only come up with FGs.

                                There's even whisperings that Kyle Boller had a better showing and had more "pep in his step" than Bulger, in the game against the Jets.
                                The one TD thrown in that game was by 4th string rookie Keith Null, who was pretty impressive in the limited time given.

                                The so called "Bulger Bashers" along with "Bulger Apologists" are waiting with baited breathe in anticipation to see if the Rams QB can at least string two good offensive series together, let along two good games.

                                Marc Bulger is a player with good character, but what he lacks is a little cockiness or that chip on the shoulders attitude needed to keep opposing defenses in check.

                                How long are we going give excuses such as a poor O Line, inexperienced receivers or a broken down running game for Bulgers' ineffectiveness. Although these are contributing factors, Bulger has no one else to blame but himself for the lack of leadership needed, from the QB, in order for the Saint Louis Rams to have success.

                                AS MARC BULGER GOES, SO GOES THE RAMS......And the last few years have seen them both go to Hell in a Hand Basket!!!

                                I'm afraid, My CLAN Bretheren, This the beginning of the end for Marc Bulger!

                                ~WHAT A LOOOOONG ~STRANGE TRIP ITS BEEN!!! ~
                                -08-16-2009, 09:14 PM
                              • tomahawk247
                                So Bulger criticisers...
                                by tomahawk247
                                am i right in thinking you want Bulger off this team? If so, who do you get to replace him? Do you want Kyle Boller to step in full time? Do you want us to pull a trade? If so, for who? I dont think there are any decent free agents available right now. And any player we do bring in isnt going to know the offense for ages. So what do you want to do?
                                -08-18-2009, 02:24 PM
                              • RamsFan16
                                Why are people so sure Bulger is set in stone as starter?
                                by RamsFan16
                                I for one do not believe that Bulger is set in stone as starter. Could he start for us next season? Obviously, but do any of us really know that? Boller was brought in, he's a younger QB with a rifle arm, good mobility and only average accuracy. As Bernie pointed out in his bits, during the time that Brian Billick was in Baltimore, they went through a lot of Quarterbacks, and all put up the same numbers and Boller never really had a good supporting cast outside of Lewis (for about a season), Odgen and Heap.

                                Boller never had that go to guy, or that supporting cast that a rookie needs to have to succeed and progress in this league. And some still feel that he could become a decent Quarterback if he is given the chance in new scenery. Bulger has been known to be fragile and injury prone, and he does take a lot of hits as well. And I feel that if given the chance, Boller could succeed with us. He's still got some untapped talent, he was as you know, drafted high in the draft so there are certain aspects of his game that he can still be coached to use well.

                                But not back to the post title, why do some of you folks feel as if Bulger is set in stone as the starter? If he was set in stone, and the staff was comfortable with him, why would there be speculation that we could draft a QB at #2, or even bring in a young Quarterback who has had some success, and that can still improve his game and become a good Quarterback?

                                Also, Spagnuolo has stated that if a player comes in and doesn't play well, or play with a good attitude that he'll sub in the spot, Bulger hasn't ever played with a great attitude and the past few seasons hasn't played well. I for one, do not believe Bulger is set in stone at Quarterback, and come training and mini camp, we could have a camp Quarterback battle. Bulger was extended before Spagnuolo got here, so I'd think Spagnuolo would put contract sizes aside and play whoever practices the best and grasps the offense better. Which, Boller came from a run heavy offense as well in Baltimore.
                                -04-05-2009, 07:02 PM
                              • dgr828
                                Bulger will never get it!
                                by dgr828
                                The scoring is not going to come to you, You have to go out and get it! Especially in the Redzone.
                                the Scoreboard doesn't lie, and it's been telling this tale for too long now.
                                Marc is a clueless "Jedi" robot who needlessly wastes and calls timeouts for no rhyme or reason, all in the 1st half of ball games, just so he can prove that that was the way Mike Martz did it.

                                Did you see how the defense and rest of the team caved in,after the 2nd half, the direct result of an ineffective offense lead by #10.

                                Rams are still in the game, in the 3rd quarter, However all the 3 & outs from the Rams stagnant offense took away what fight this team might have had left in 'em, and in the end this team just gave in.

                                Why are we fighting when our QB is so enept at running the offense.
                                Folks, we're going on 4 years of this BS!
                                Bulger will never get! JUST GET THE DAMN BALL INTO THE ENDZONE!!!
                                BTW, Can we now agree that this GUY SUX!!!

                                START BOLLER IN DC!
                                -09-13-2009, 04:45 PM
                              • invisiblehorns314
                                treat Boller like you treat Bulger
                                by invisiblehorns314
                                Earlier this year, the rams were on a drive to tie the game, Bulger scambled for 6 yards on 3rd down. They needed 7. The fans on here, the media, everyone threw Bulger under the bus, said he was slow, and he shoulda took the hit for the drive. Kyle boller, who's a better athlete, scrambled for 13 yards, we need 15. I want to hear fans rag on him like they did Bulger. But because savard, and farr, haven't said anything about it, I'm guessing all is forgiven.
                                This brings me my point, it isn't Bulgers performance that gets ppl, its him. Fans just don't like him.
                                -01-03-2010, 12:48 PM
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