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  • Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

    "Rush Limbaugh really is interested in buying the Rams. Limbaugh and St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts head up one of three groups that submitted bids to buy the team, Charley Casserly of CBS reports. It's not clear whether the Checketts/Limbaugh bid includes the 40 percent stake owned by Stan Kroenke or the 60 percent stake owned by the late Georgia Frontiere's children. Rumors of Limbaugh's interest in the team started in May, and he was spotted at the Rams game on Sept. 20."

    If Rush takes ownership in the rams...I simply dont know if I will be able to still call myself a fan, and I havent missed a game in 6 years...........

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    Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

    I'd bet that 90% of the owners in the league have political viewpoints that are pretty similar to Rush's. The only difference is that they don't have nationally syndicated radio shows.

    Rush's potential involvement as part of an ownership group is a non-issue, as far as I'm concerned (and I am hardly a "dittohead").

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      This is weak. So what!
      Semper Fi!

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        Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

        Originally posted by Alec22 View Post
        If Rush takes ownership in the rams...I simply dont know if I will be able to still call myself a fan, and I havent missed a game in 6 years...........
        It wouldn't be all that bad, at least we'd have someone "blowing hard" on air about the Rams now and then ..

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          Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

          The fact that he would then become one of the figure heads and faces of the franchise (because of the pub) would cause me so much pain that I just dont know if I want to be involved in anything he is a part of. Its one thing to be a hardcore conservative (to each his own) but what he does in completly different. Making up lies and then repeating them over and over again till he actually believes them himself is something completely different.

          If only to cite one example i will choose this one: Please Read

          Years ago in the clinton adm. when Rush was on a tangent that Hillary was responsible for killing many (which couldnt have been farther from the truth) Rush played it all up.
          He then goes on Letterman - Letterman asks "DO you actaully believe she killed?"

          Rush - "Dave, you know what its like, we're both in the entertainment bussiness"
          Letterman - (along the lines of) What you and I do has nothing in common.

          I just dont know if I can handle the association with Rush.


          Sorry, I know I probably have many incorrect spellings and such.

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            Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

            thank you Big red, exactly what i was thinking

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            • #7
              Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

              Guys, I like you all because your ClanRam members and Ram fans.

              But seriously, this team has won 5 games the past two seasons and may not win one this season.
              Semper Fi!

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                Ok, but that has nothing to due with Rush putting his name on the Rams, I think there is no possible way the NFL would ever allow this to happen, but im just scared if they did.......

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                  Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

                  Please try to keep any discussion about this topic separate from politics. Because of the person involved, I know that's difficult. But the rules are clear about no political discussions, so it's a fine line. Do your best to walk it!

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                    Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

                    And I think that worrying about Rush being a partial owner of the Rams is silly. I didn't particularly like Georgia, but it did not stop me from being a Rams fan.

                    In the scheme of things, I could care less about his politics, which are apperantly bothering some.

                    5 wins my friend. Thats the only fact that should matter at this point.
                    Semper Fi!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

                      Are owners subject to the league Substance Abuse Policy too?
                      "The disappointment of losing is huge!"

                      Jack Youngblood

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                        Come on guys he'd be a minority owner at most. Who cares what his political views are if the new owner ship group he would be a part of can make this team good again? Furthermore it's not as if he'd be constantly talking about them and constantly getting in front of the camera. He has other things to concern himself with talking about.

                        In all reality the "face" of the Rams would probably be Checketts who would be majority owner.

                        As for the NFL not letting someone own a team because of their political views...Seriously? That would be an awful thing to see happen.

                        "No, you can't own a team, you're a conservative talk show host." Really?

                        That's not healthy.
                        "I've been saving the Universe for over a thousand years. I figure it owes me just this once."

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                          Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

                          Originally posted by Nick View Post
                          Please try to keep any discussion about this topic separate from politics. Because of the person involved, I know that's difficult. But the rules are clear about no political discussions, so it's a fine line. Do your best to walk it!
                          If an elephant can do it......
                          YouTube - Elephant Rope Walking

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                            I'm all for having an owner in the spotlight of media attention. Might get some actual buzz around the team

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                              Re: Oh God, its Limbaugh Again........

                              Originally posted by Alec22 View Post
                              If Rush takes ownership in the rams...I simply dont know if I will be able to still call myself a fan, and I havent missed a game in 6 years...........
                              Come on my young friend......you'd let political leanings dictate your feelings for your team? Really?

                              If so, Dan Rooney (Steelers' owner) was named Ambassador of Ireland by Obama, and they're playing pretty well. Maybe you'd enjoy being a Steeler fan.
                              The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                              • MauiRam
                                Limbaugh, Checketts join in bid for Rams ..
                                by MauiRam
                                By Jim Thomas and Jeremy Rutherford
                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                                10/06/2009

                                Radio personality Rush Limbaugh has joined forces with St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts in a bid to buy the St. Louis Rams football team, NFL sources confirmed Monday.

                                The Checketts group has made its bid on the team and plans to keep the team in St. Louis.

                                According to league sources, there are multiple bidders for the Rams as the potential sale of the team has advanced to a second stage from looking for potential buyers to evaluating the merits of bidders. It is not known who the other bidders are.

                                "I certainly think individual bidders have the right to discuss their interest in the club," said Kevin Demoff, the Rams' executive vice president of football operations. "There's really nothing for us to say. It's really not fair to anybody involved in the process.

                                "There is no inevitability for the team to wind up being for sale anyway. There may be bidders, but that doesn't mean there will be a sale. Ownership has said all along it would go through this process and evaluate its options. They are under no pressure to sell the team."

                                Checketts, the founder and chief executive officer of SCP Worldwide, a New York-based firm that owns and operates the Blues, would be the frontman for a group of investors that would purchase at minimum the 60 percent share of the Rams owned by Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez, the son and daughter of the Rams' late owner, Georgia Frontiere.

                                Sources with the Checketts group say there is no timetable for the Rams to respond to bids.

                                Limbaugh, a conservative political commentator, first mentioned his interest in the Rams last May. He was unavailable to the Post-Dispatch for comment but in a statement sent to KMOX radio, Limbaugh said: "Dave and I are part of a bid to buy the Rams, and we are continuing the process. But I can say no more because of a confidentiality clause in our agreement with Goldman Sachs. We cannot and will not talk about our partners. But if we prevail we will be the operators of the team."

                                Limbaugh, originally from Cape Girardeau, Mo., worked briefly as a commentator for ESPN's NFL pregame show in 2003 but resigned amid controversy over his remarks about media coverage of Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb.

                                Forbes magazine recently valued the Rams franchise at more than $900 million, but it's believed the Rams' sale might fetch $800 million or less given the state of the economy and the state of the team, which in recent years has been in the bottom third of NFL franchises in terms of revenue.

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                                -10-06-2009, 08:58 AM
                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Sources: Checketts To Drop Limbaugh
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                Updated: October 14, 2009, 3:36 PM ET
                                Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh
                                By Adam Schefter ESPN Archive


                                Rush Limbaugh is expected to be dropped from a group bidding to buy the St. Louis Rams, according to three NFL sources.

                                Dave Checketts, chairman of the NHL's St. Louis Blues and the point man in the Limbaugh group attempting to buy the Rams, realizes he must remove the controversial conservative radio host from his potential role as a minority member in the group in order to get approval from other NFL owners, the sources said.

                                Three-quarters of the league's 32 owners would have to approve any sale to Limbaugh and his group. Earlier this week, Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay predicted that Limbaugh's potential bid would be met by significant opposition. Several players have also voiced their displeasure with Limbaugh's potential ownership position, and NFL Players Association head DeMaurice Smith, who is black, urged players to speak out against Limbaugh's bid.

                                Ultimately, the sources said, Checketts must reconfigure his group and find another investor to make his bid more viable.

                                Exactly when Limbaugh will be dropped is uncertain, though some familiar with the situation said it could be within the next week. It is unclear if the two sides even have spoken.

                                Earlier Wednesday, on his syndicated radio show, Limbaugh was defiant, holding on to hope that he still could be part of the ownership group that buys the Rams.

                                "I'm not even thinking of exiting," Limbaugh said on his program, according to a transcript provided to ESPN. "I'm not even thinking of caving. I am not a caver. None of us are. We have been betrayed by too many who have caved. Pioneers take the arrows. We are pioneers. It's a sad thing but our country over 200 years old now needs pioneers all over again, but we do."

                                Without Limbaugh, Checketts and his group would have to find a financial substitute to replace the sizable investment that Limbaugh intended to make. At the NFL owners meetings this week in Boston, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell addressed Limbaugh's potential involvement in the league and said "divisive comments are not what the NFL is all about."

                                Goodell added: "I've said many times before, we're all held to a high standard here. I would not want to see those comments coming from people who are in a responsible position in the NFL -- absolutely not."

                                In 2003, Limbaugh was forced to resign from ESPN's Sunday Night Football broadcast after saying of Philadelphia's Donovan McNabb: "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."
                                -10-14-2009, 12:40 PM
                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Not-So-Odd Couple: Checketts & Limbaugh
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                Not-so-odd couple: Checketts & Limbaugh

                                Columnist Jeff Gordon
                                By Jeff Gordon
                                STLTODAY.COM SPORTS COLUMNIST
                                10/06/2009

                                Dave Checketts and Rush Limbaugh form an interesting tag team in their mutual quest to gain ownership of the St. Louis Rams.

                                Checketts is an established deal-maker. He knows how to raise capital and create successful business partnerships.

                                He earns high marks for his stewardship of the Blues franchise. His work with that team gained him great credibility in this market.

                                He and his people took over a woeful hockey team and painstakingly built a successful organization, brick by brick. They hired the right people and turned them loose. They revived fan support for the franchise by working tirelessly on the marketing and public relations front.

                                He and his people developed a plan, stuck with it and delivered on their promise to build a Stanley Cup contender. The Blues got back into the playoffs last season and appear positioned to take a deeper run this postseason.

                                Limbaugh has a lot of money, good business sense and useful experience in the sports industry. Back before he became a huge talk-radio star, he worked the front lines for a successful Kansas City Royals franchise.

                                In those days, the Royals ran a model operation. The franchise regularly drew 2 million fans (a good number in those days) with a grass roots season-ticket initiative and a successful group sales program.

                                Ewing Kauffman was a remarkable owner, even visionary in some respects. His baseball and business staffs were first rate. He hired good people and let them do their jobs.

                                Limbaugh had a hand in those glory days. Anybody working in such a successful franchise learns a great deal about succeeding in a tough business.

                                As the frontman for an NFL ownership group, though, Limbaugh would face challenges. His aggressive political views could become an issue with segments of the fan base.

                                Limbaugh once made comments about Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb that caused a PR firestorm. He proved too controversial to fill a role on NFL telecasts.

                                Can you imagine how much fuss he could cause by speaking his mind as an NFL owner?

                                Remaining politically incorrect has served Limbaugh well. Love him or hate him, Limbaugh creates compelling radio.

                                He has built an enormous following. His fans expect him to speak his mind and hurt some feelings. Limbaugh plays the provocateur role to the hilt.

                                This is why Checketts -- or another commanding individual that Checketts would help recruit -- would serve this group well as the frontman.

                                With somebody else out front dealing with the media, the general public and the league, Limbaugh could enjoy the many benefits of NFL ownership without having to tone down his act....
                                -10-06-2009, 03:30 PM
                              • RamWraith
                                If Rams ever call, Checketts will listen
                                by RamWraith
                                By Bernie Miklasz
                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                                Thursday, Oct. 09 2008
                                Dave Checketts, owner of the St. Louis Rams?

                                When Checketts, the Blues' CEO, made a guest appearance on my KSLG (1380 AM)
                                radio show Wednesday, I asked him if he'd be interested in purchasing the Rams.

                                Rams Chairman Chip Rosenbloom has said he's in no hurry to sell and would like
                                to keep the team. But if Rosenbloom had to sell, he told me he would try to
                                place the franchise in good hands and wants the new owner to be committed to
                                keeping the team in St. Louis.

                                Could Checketts be that candidate?

                                If given an opportunity, would Checketts step up and attempt to make a deal
                                with Rosenbloom?

                                "The answer is absolutely," Checketts said. "We love St. Louis. It's a great
                                NFL franchise. There are some real hurdles ahead with it. I'm more interested
                                in doing the right thing for St. Louis than I am necessarily being the owner of
                                the Rams.

                                "I think Chip's having discussions with a lot of different people. I don't
                                think he's decided exactly what he wants to do, but if and when he decides to
                                sell I hope I get a call."

                                As Checketts indicated, there would be obstacles.

                                The Rams' sale price would probably fall between $800 million and $1 billion.
                                If Stan Kroenke retained his 40 percent ownership share, the new majority
                                partner would have to fund 60 percent of the purchase price. Yes, a new owner
                                could recruit partners, but under NFL rules the lead owner must control at
                                least 30 percent of the franchise.

                                Though Checketts' personal worth is unclear, it's doubtful that he has the kind
                                of financial clout required to own an NFL franchise. In theory, Checketts could
                                put together a group headed by a "silent" majority partner a big-money
                                investor who has little interest in being the front man for the franchise.

                                And in that setup, Checketts would fit as the chief executive. He's operated
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                                Under Checketts' leadership, the Blues are quickly rebuilding their fan base
                                and popularity. When Checketts ran Madison Square Garden in New York, the arena
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                                NFL rules barring cross ownership wouldn't apply to Checketts. He owns a pro
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                                Kroenke, however, has a problem. The NFL won't...
                                -10-09-2008, 04:27 AM
                              • MauiRam
                                Intrigue behind Rams sale
                                by MauiRam
                                Sports Columnist Bernie Miklasz
                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                                11/15/2009

                                Let's get down to business. It's time to update the attempted sale of the St. Louis Rams. The process has been secretive for the most part. Obviously, there's a lot that I don't know.

                                But after making several rounds of phone calls this week and talking to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the situation, I'll share what I know.

                                And I'll also discuss the ongoing effort of Blues chairman Dave Checketts, who is attempting to put together a consortium to purchase the 60 percent of the Rams owned by Chip Rosenbloom and his sister, Lucia Rodriguez.

                                Checketts is carrying the football on behalf of St. Louis. That's a positive, but there is a downside, and later in the column I'll explain why.

                                Let's get started:

                                No sale is imminent.

                                Several out-of-town interests are pursuing the franchise. And indications are that the potential buyers have communicated a desire to keep the Rams in St. Louis. For example, one potential buyer lives out of state but has business interests here and is thought to be pro-St. Louis.

                                That said, no one in St. Louis should take anything for granted. Buyers know that Rosenbloom and Rodriguez want the Rams to remain here. And if a buyer has other motives, it makes no sense to telegraph those intentions to Rosenbloom. Or to the Goldman Sachs investment firm, which is handling sale inquiries.

                                Last Sunday on the CBS pregame show, Charley Casserly identified a new potential buyer: Texas-based banking billionaire Gerald J. Ford. It's true. It's also early. Ford, 65, is a promising candidate. But he hasn't been vetted yet.

                                Casserly also suggested that Rosenbloom and Rodriguez are under pressure to sell before the end of the year, because of estate-tax issues related to the death of their mother, Georgia Frontiere. A source with intimate knowledge of the Rosenbloom-Rodriguez tax issues disputes that.
                                Between now and October 2013, Rosenbloom and Rodriguez are obligated to pay interest on the estate-tax bill. They are not required to begin making payments on the principal until Oct. 2013. At that point, the pressure to sell the team would increase, but the source stressed it would still be possible for Rosenbloom and Rodriguez to keep the Rams. An expected increase in the capital-gains tax (in 2010 or 2011) doesn't help Rosenbloom and Rodriguez, but the source insists that isn't an important factor in the sale timetable.

                                Stan Kroenke, who owns 40 percent of the Rams, has remained silent. To buy the available 60 percent, Kroenke would have to convince the NFL to change the rules prohibiting cross ownership. (He owns the NBA Denver Nuggets and NHL Colorado Avalanche.) Kroenke is a key to this. Because if he agrees to stay on as the 40 percent partner, the new owner would...
                                -11-15-2009, 09:06 AM
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