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    Spagnuolo, Barron talk; Barron should return to starting lineup
    By Kathleen Nelson
    St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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    Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo met with offensive tackle Alex Barron on Monday morning to discuss again his reasons for pulling Barron from Sunday’s game after being called for an illegal formation. The infraction occurred late in the second quarter of the Rams’ 35-0 loss to San Francisco, and Barron didn’t return.

    “Alex and I spoke this morning. It will remain between Alex and I,” Spagnuolo said. “I have my reasons for what I did. They’ve been expressed to the team as well as Alex. Like I told Alex. It’s over. It’s done. We move on. We start Wednesday. It’s a clean slate and away we go. We worry about Minnesota.”

    Spagnuolo said Barron probably would return to the starting unit. He acknowledged that pulling a player for a mistake was one way to hold him accountable but added that he didn’t want to make a habit of it.

    “What happened on Sunday is not where we’re going with this team,” Spagnuolo said. “By that I mean, somebody makes a mistake, you get pulled out of the game. That’s not the issue. It was something I felt like we needed to do. My reasons will remain with me. We’ll move forward. I still believe in Alex Barron. We’re going to need Alex Barron to win games.”

    He hinted he had other options for holding players accountable other than sitting on the bench.

    “You don’t want to hurt your football team,” he said. “There’s all different ways to do it. In that particular instance, I thought that was the way to do it.”

  • #2
    Re: Spagnuolo, Barron talk; Barron should return to starting lineup

    I don't think it had near as much to do with the penalty, but more about his "I don't care" demeanor.
    sigpicThis is for Randy! GO BRM!


    • #3
      Re: Spagnuolo, Barron talk; Barron should return to starting lineup

      I was thinking that same thing Mom. I got the feeling that he had no remorse for the penalty, maybe made an "oh well" type comment, and the coach put someone in who did care...
      This space for rent...


      • #4
        Re: Spagnuolo, Barron talk; Barron should return to starting lineup

        Barron is really starting to irritate me. Some plays, he's a Pro Bowler, others, he's a Street Free Agent. His attitude is what does it, he NEVER cares what happens, and even after he was benched. He just stood there and didn't even care and was completely content not being in there.


        • #5
          Re: Spagnuolo, Barron talk; Barron should return to starting lineup

          I agree with everybody here, Barron just doesn't get it. He mopes around and goes through the motions like it's all no big deal. If it was just himself he was affecting, that would be one thing, but he's part of a team that depends on him to do his job to the best of his ability. When he doesn't keep his focus and shrugs everything off, he's impacting other players. Maybe he needs a code red. I don't see much hope for him, at least as a Ram. I'd love to be wrong.


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          • Nick
            Barron is sent to the bench
            by Nick
            Barron is sent to the bench
            BY BILL COATS
            Monday, Oct. 05 2009

            SAN FRANCISCO — A former first-round draft choice getting the opportunity of
            his NFL career this year, Rams tackle Alex Barron appears to floundering rather
            than flourishing.

            Barron, the 19th overall selection in the 2005 draft, was banished to the
            sideline by coach Steve Spagnuolo just before halftime Sunday in the Rams' 35-0
            loss to the San Francisco *****. Barron was yanked after failing to line up
            properly, prompting an illegal-formation penalty that negated a first-down pass
            play and snuffed a promising drive.

            John Greco, a third-round draftee in 2008, finished the game at left tackle.
            Although offering little elaboration about the move, Spagnuolo cautioned about
            drawing any conclusions from it.

            "I told the group I have a tremendous amount of confidence in Alex Barron,"
            Spagnuolo said. "I just felt that was something we had to do at that particular

            The Rams trailed 7-0 at the time. Barron was a spectator during the second
            half, when the ***** turned the NFC West contest into a rout.

            "It was just a decision made by the coach, and that was that," Barron said.
            "You don't want to get pulled, but it happens."

            It hadn't happened to Barron in his first four seasons, though. He'd started 62
            of 64 games, the vast majority of them at right tackle. After the offseason
            release of seven-time Pro Bowler Orlando Pace, Barron took over at the
            all-important left tackle spot, on a righthanded quarterback's blind side.

            That's where the money is among NFL linemen. In the final season of his
            original contract, Barron figured to cash in heavily in 2010 — either by
            re-signing with the Rams or in free agency — if he put together a solid

            With the Rams 0-4, averaging a moribund six points a game, and Barron benched,
            that big payday could be slipping away.

            "You can't do much about a guy getting pulled," left guard Jacob Bell said.
            "The head coach has his reasons; you never know exactly what he's thinking.
            You've just got to work with what you've got."

            In Greco, the Rams have a 6-foot-4, 329-pounder who is just getting back into
            form after having wrist surgery a month ago. A left tackle at the University of
            Toledo, Greco had been working at that position only recently with the Rams.

            "I wanted to show that I could play anywhere," he said. "I was kind of getting
            ready for it this week (in practice). I got an opportunity to get in there, and
            hopefully I did my job."

            -10-05-2009, 08:36 AM
          • Richbert88
            by Richbert88
            He was on the block, we know that. I am wondering how close we came. Seems like the pickup of Trautwein could have been in anticipation of Barron being gone.

            Regardless, good developmental OT for the future, a future that Barron most likely won't be in.
            -10-20-2009, 09:33 PM
          • eldfan
            Re-evaluating Alex Barron
            by eldfan
            Re-evaluating Alex Barron
            by VanRam on Feb 10, 2009 6:56 AM CST in 2009 Off-Season (SI)

            Rejuvenated with a straight six hours of sleep, no small accomplishment for a new father, I'm going to start the morning with a little devil's advocate. No, not that horrible movie with Al Pacinio (remember when he did movies for more than just a paycheck?), but with a question about a Rams player without much standing 'round these parts. So let's ask, does Alex Barron deserve yet another chance?

            All the o-line talk lately has focused on the Rams potentially cutting future Hall of Famer Orlando Pace. What goes unsaid in those conversations is parting ways with Pace means Alex Barron is definitely part of the Rams plans for 2009, and possibly beyond, even if they do draft an OT with the second overall pick in the draft. Let's look at the pros and cons.

            Pros & Excuses

            Barron has been healthy, the one Rams lineman who hasn't been forced to the sidelines for any amount of time in the last three years because of injury. That's no small feat given the context. Barron's also decent in run blocking and adequate in pass protection. No Pro Bowler, but a starting level OT.

            Being healthy in the midst of the line's injury epidemic forced Barron to move back and forth between the left and right OT spots, doubtlessly confusing a young man suffering from a lack of coaching to begin with. Lack of coaching? Sure, think about it. Barron's rookie season was 2005, a year of turmoil at Rams Parks, where attention to on-field matters was minimal. After that came the overwhelmed Scott Linehan, unable to instill a winning mentality in his players and soon beset by veterans openly questioning him. Those conditions aren't particularly conducive to developing the latent talent in a young player.


            Barron never met a false start he didn't like. I'm not a player, but it still seems strange that a guy just can't get the snap count figured out after four seasons. Sure, Barron was much better this season, losing the team penalty crown to Richie Incognito. Nevertheless, he still had 9 penalties (11 when you count the ones declined), 7 false starts. How much damn coaching does it take?

            Bad teams pay a price for hanging on to unrealized potential, waiting for a player's talent to manifest itself while it never does. And the Rams are certainly in that territory with Barron. However, Barron is relatively cheap and you can argue that his shortcomings don't outweigh the benefit of him being a competent everyday starter.

            Ideally, the team would have someone to push him, a competitor threatening to take his livelihood. That could be John Greco, but he seem more suited to the middle of the line. And if Pace's salary and age have put a target on his back, that most certainly means Barron's going nowhere. The Rams limited resources combined with lots of...
            -02-10-2009, 06:22 PM
          • yellow and blue
            by yellow and blue
            Get OUT!

            All this kid is good.. er bad for is false starts.

            Talk about a bust.
            -11-03-2007, 02:09 PM
          • RamWraith
            Lost is Barron
            by RamWraith
            With all the what if's and maybe we should of's. One person that needs some kudos' is A. Barron. The kid pretty much shut down one of the best defensive ends in football and did it one handed. I think we got a hell of a right tackle in makings here. KUDOS' Alex. We love having you here!!
            -12-18-2005, 07:18 PM