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    As fans we have a lot of emotion invested in this team we root for. Some of us have been fans for quite awhile, way before it was popular to be a fan of the Rams, some of us have been fans since there days in L.A.. So it's very difficult to watch the product and root for what we have on the field. A bunch of new up and coming stars (WE HOPE).

    We ask ourselves, or blame what we think the problem maybe, is it the lack of receivers, the poor offensive line play, the defense, poor play at qb. Well the way I see it, all them have show flashes of light, so I don't think the problem is there. It all starts in the coaching, no the coach doesn't play but he's responsible for keeping the team disciplined. But I think there's a method to Spags mojo. He's trying to get this team to play as team, and loose as a team, because then they can win as a team. Sort of like a product of the team we all love to hate, the Pats. We saw last year an average qb win 11 games, because they buy into a selfless team system.

    The one problem I do however see is the offensive playcalling. It's very bad, with no chances taken downfield. Too many draw plays on 2 and long. Let these guys put the ears back and play, start passing the ball 10-15 yards, instead 5-7. Take some throws down the field to let a team know you will. They've gotta do this to keep the defenses honest and open up some room for Stevens running game, cause all we see at this point is a lot of stacking the defensive line. We don't see any adjustments at the offensive line, when you know their coming with the blitz. The way I see it Shurmur is not the guy for the job. But I'll still watch the games and take the punishment along with everyone else. LOL

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    The way I see it Shurmur is not the guy for the job.
    I have not made my mind up on the coaching staff yet but there is growing pains for everyone on this team. I am taking a wait and see approach hoping in time they can fix it.


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      Re: The Way I see It..........

      It looks to me like they are working on the basics before they think about opening it up. It seems like a good long term strategy that will be very painful in the short term. It would be nice to see more progress on the basics though. It look like the tackling is getting better and the defensive line is maitaining it's gap discipline ( better run defense but fewer sacks). But the penalties and offensive blocking is still terrible.


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      • talkstoangels61
        Line play will always be a problem!
        by talkstoangels61
        Look guys and gals.........Ever since i played the game of football the line was what makes a difference here! Poor line play will make a good Qb look horrendous aka KW and MB in a few games so far. I'm not saying that it was all the lines fault yesterday in S.F but, somewhat their fault. Alot of our problems are play calling ! The plays are taking way too long to develope any more! The rest of the league is wise to MM's play calling! I honestly do believe that if ole' Martzie would or could go back up stairs i do believe he'd see a whole lot more of the game from there! Then maybe we could open it really up like before! But,point is the line play will make or break a team! They never seem to get any credit for all the good that they do either1....IMPO they should get most of the credit!.................If i didnt have a line in front of me in the day i wouldnt have really been worth a s**t. They made me let me tell you! For those that don't agree just go try it sometime! Sand lot ball will give you the same results! NO BLOCK...........S***f ****..........thats what the dline will do to you! Knock you arse right off!
        -09-12-2005, 08:59 PM
      • LaRamsFanLongTime
        This team
        by LaRamsFanLongTime
        Does anyone really think this team is as bad as we are playing right now? I had high hopes for this season and took it pretty badly when we started losing right out the gates. I am trying to think of why and it is so obvious.

        Is it the Coaches fault? It can be but with all the injuries how do you come up with any consistancy in your playbook? Short passes QB dies long Passes QB dies. RB hurt plus the whole line hurt = no run game to take pressure off beat up QB's. So no I could not put this on the coach. Take away Welker, Tom Brady, and The whole o-line and the Patriots are not a great team.

        Lets see now defense? Yeah they still suck and have weekness in every spot. That is an area though I fealt going into this season that was a huge ????? The defense is definatly rebuilding and hopefully the high pick we get will be used on a immediate difference maker.

        Offense see the coach area we all know that an offense that banged up could not put up the numbers we are used too around these parts. Last week though we saw some life out of them.

        So the obvious choice is the reoccuring week defense and banged up offense. I am not sitting here thinking this team will be bad for the next 10 years. I think this season was an injury plagued season that will be long forgotten by mid season next year. Yes I do know that is a long time but we have no choice but to wait it out now do we?

        I think we let Linehan have at least a healthy season to see if he can right the ship. If this team faulters next year then a change should be made. BTW is it just me or should the conditioning coach be put out to pasture.
        -11-01-2007, 04:37 PM
      • chiguy
        Most disappointing unit?
        by chiguy
        I've been a Sam supporter since he was drafted, but even I'm starting to have doubts that he can be the QB we want. But if we're talking about team performance, I still don't see how he can be seen as the "problem." This made me think about the following question -- which are the units that are not progressing/playing well, as that is probably where the "problems" are. My shot at listing them is below:

        1. Offensive line. The most experienced group on the roster and one of the most highly paid. But there is no push in the running game and save the first two games, they haven't done much in pass protection either. JLong looked terrible last REALLY terrible.

        2. Linebackers. This was tough for me as WRs and CBs haven't performed up to snuff, but this group isn't getting the job done in the run or pass game. The d-line seems like they're doing what they're supposed to, but the LBs overrun the play and are susceptible to the cut-back. They don't shed tacklers. And, the coverage has been mediocre. JL hasn't looked good until the ***** game; Alex has been a bright spot, though he makes some rookie mistakes.

        3. Running backs. Do we have any, or they victim of play calling and woeful blocking? I'm going with "all of the above."

        4. Coaches. The unwillingness to adjust in game is perplexing. And at point are we going to emphasize 1) not running out of the end zone on kickoffs and 2) proper blocking. Seriously, the refs are not getting it wrong; we are. And why are our corners playing so soft? And so.

        5. Special teams. K/P are fine. I'm sure everyone else is tired of starting drives behind the 10 yard line.

        6. Secondary. Jenkins has been decent and so has Johnson. Everyone else? Meh. TJ and McCleod brings some wallop, but they also have issues with positioning. And Finnegan? He's been just terrible. And that was being generous.

        7. WRs/TEs. There are good moments, but not enough. Given the youth of the unit, its somewhat understandable. But there are too many drops and an inability to get free.

        8. Quarterback. He was fine the first two weeks, mediocre the third, and awful in the fourth. Most importantly, he's starting to look like he's losing confidence. Think Bugler at the end...its starting to look like that to me. Starting to.

        9. Defensive line. We need more push, but they aren't the problem per se.
        -09-29-2013, 07:41 AM
      • RamsFanSam
        OK, convince me!
        by RamsFanSam
        I have read plenty of posts from people saying fans shouldn't look at the bright side of last night's defeat, that instead we should all don sackcloth and ashes, and mourn the death of the 2008 season for our Rams.

        Convince me why I should!

        I watched only the first quarter, but I did listen to the entire game. Of course, the TV broadcast was done by the Titans Network, meaning that the commentary was biased in favor of the Titans. The other 3 quarters was a mix of NFL's gamecenter and KTVI audio, niether of which was very good.

        What I came out of the media barrage I witnessed is the following:

        1. Marc looked a little rusty. Of course, considering that there was only TWO others on the offense who had ever played in Saunder's system, I expected to see some confusion. But, I guess that since Marc didn't launch a 99 yard Hail Mary for 6 on the first possession means that Marc is all washed up. After all, when a reciever isn't in the right place at the right time, it's always the QB's fault.

        2. I also saw a really good defense beat our O-line. Considering that these front five guys have NEVER played a single game together before, We know it's all Pace's fault. He is all washed up, and we should have traded for Jake Long and then overpaid him to take Pace's spot.

        3. I saw 2 passes go long, so long that no one on either team had a chance to get to them. It didn't matter that both times the recievers were double covered and had no chance in hell of breaking away, those recievers must suck, so we should have traded them for some untested rookie. Darn Linehan for drafting someone who has skills that our offense could use instead of some other rookie!

        4. I saw our defense get beat up. Badly. Even though they made a solid stand in the red zone, we know they suck. It doesn't matter that some of our starters were out, we should have beaten the Titans back into the stone age with undersized, inexperienced rookies. It's all Haslett's fault for not having UFA's and rookies available that we can afford.

        5. Our "wannabe's" didn't come back in the second half and win the game. Of course, they have had a whole 90 days or so to forget everything they ever learned about football just to learn football all over again. I forget that other millionaires such as Bill Gates have been there before. Didn't he have to forget everything he knew about Windows 98 to learn Windows XP in just 90 days? He didn't? Oh my. Those rookies and coaches have to go....NOW!

        So, as you can see, I am NOT saying everything will be OK by next week. In fact, I'll be happy if we win 3 of our first 8, and come out 8-8 this season. I know all is not well in St. Louis as of yet, and I didn't expect it to be. Last year I had hope, because everything was in place. This year, we have a tougher schedule, most of our great players are either gone or they are getting...
        -08-10-2008, 03:41 PM
      • MauiRam
        What Fortywhiners Fans are saying .
        by MauiRam
        > No possible way this team travels on a short week to the Rams to win. We complete 2 passes in a half on offense. This is not an NFL offense. It's clear the defense has also dropped off. We can't stop anybody anymore. Plus the read option is worthless this year. All the WR's and TE's are hurt. Coaching and play calling are questionable. Forget the division. That's done. It's the Seahawks. Forget the wild card. I don't think we are making the playoffs. We will get a high draft pick.

        > Our read option has done nothing but HURT our REAL run game.... Unless we go back to what worked in 2011, we will lose.

        > I expect 1-3 to be honest. No confidence in this team until Harbaugh and Roman admit the pistol read-option does not give us the best chance to win anymore. We need to go back to the type of football that's proven to be successful for the last several decades.

        > A short week + travel + the Rams have our # + their stadium + the way our offense is playing. We aren't winning that game. I'd be surprised if it's close.

        > Final score: 2 - 0 Rams.

        > It's obvious we don't have deep threats right now. Instead of the deep ball, why not primarily run the ball, and when necessary, go to short passes and rely on YAC? I've read that the Rams' secondary is suspect to put it mildly.

        > Another loss coming our way. Actually make it 2 more, our next win might not happen until the Cards game. Right now, we are just too out of sync plus our mental game and confidence is to totally shattered.

        > I'm glad it's a short week, I don't know if I could wait till Sunday to get this taste out of my mouth.

        > Our passing offense is primarily Boldin, VD and Crabtree at full strength. Two out of those three are out, so we are running at 33%. Meanwhile, sure, why not give the others a chance...what is there to lose anyways. Better to have tried and lost than not try at all. There is something obviously/seriously wrong with the team right now...the ***** are not supposed to lose by these large margins. The coaching has to be questioned, everything has to be questioned before it's too late to change anything. We have a Coach of the year, Executive of the year, and an owner who has a lot of common sense. That's the only thing going for the team right now.

        > The Ram's passrush will eat us alive.

        > I don't understand the gameplan and offensive play calling the last 2 weeks. We have no WRs that can get open right now and yet we keep calling passing plays even though we were built as a run first team and had our best success the last 2 yrs on Gore's back. Harbaugh and Roman need to get their head outta their a**es and get back to running the ball and stop with the gimmicky read option BS

        > The Rams suck. Their offense is so bland... I swear it's from the 1970's. Sam Bradford is Captain Checkdown...
        -09-25-2013, 11:30 AM