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  • Dare I say bring back the Mad Scientist

    He would at least put up 20pts a game....

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    Oh you are preaching not only to the choir here, but the deacons too.

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    • #3
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      hmmmm i dunno...he didnt understand how best to use Jax before and seeing as Jax is our only great player on Offense..i wouldnt like to get someone calling the plays who doesnt know how to use our only real weapon.

      i am not impressed atall by Pat Shurmar so far..but not sure Martz is the answer with what we got now either.

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      • #4
        Re: Dare I say bring back the Mad Scientist

        iLL TAKE A MONKEY CALLING THE PLAYS IF WE CAN GET 14 PTS A GAME ... THATS ALLL JUST 14PITS

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        • #5
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          There's a reason the "Mad Scientist" is unemployed. Martz doesn't get along with head coaches dictating to him, especially no-nonsense head coaches, and last time I checked, Spags was a no-nonsense head coach.

          That said, I'd be more than willing to give him a shot if he could be a team guy, but he just may have burned his last bridge with the whiners.

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          • #6
            Re: Dare I say bring back the Mad Scientist

            Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
            There's a reason the "Mad Scientist" is unemployed. Martz doesn't get along with head coaches dictating to him, especially no-nonsense head coaches, and last time I checked, Spags was a no-nonsense head coach.

            That said, I'd be more than willing to give him a shot if he could be a team guy, but he just may have burned his last bridge with the whiners.
            I don't know how big an "if" it would be. Every time he is on NFL Total Access, it is as plain as the nose on my face (and you've seen it, it is a big one...LOL) that he misses St. Louis a lot.

            To expand on that, I think Shurmur was probably just a lot better as the QBs coach, as he was in Philly. Seemed to do great things in that capacity. Maybe a step back to that position would be better for him as well as the team.
            Last edited by MOM; -10-07-2009, 01:13 PM.
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            • #7
              Re: Dare I say bring back the Mad Scientist

              i think the bridge that was burnt in St.Louis has been removed already anyway..e.g Zygmunt,Shaw etc....im not sure if he loves St.Louis as such..more probably the players and coaching staff who were around at the time..but im sure he would be up for it if he got the call...its just if Spags & Billy D would make that call or not..

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              • #8
                Re: Dare I say bring back the Mad Scientist

                Not Gonna Happen............. wishful thinking by some.

                Maineram -

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                • #9
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                  I'd be willing to bet Spags would want no part of Martz' rogue coach act. He has enough to worry about now without having to deal with Mad Mike's antics. Just ask Rod Marinelli or Mike Nolan or Mike Singletary, who all wanted the same ball control offense Spags wants, but couldn't get Martz to cooperate.

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                  • #10
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                    I guess I don't understand why guys who want a ball control offense bring in someone who is known for lots of passing and generally not using a ball control offense and then be surprised when he isn't a ball control kind of guy. It's like having a conversation with a known communist and being surprised when they talk about communism.
                    "I've been saving the Universe for over a thousand years. I figure it owes me just this once."

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                    • #11
                      Re: Dare I say bring back the Mad Scientist

                      Originally posted by bruce4life View Post
                      He would at least put up 20pts a game....
                      whats your next post "we need Warner back" just kidding bruce4life,but way to stir it up, and oh I happen to agree with you.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Dare I say bring back the Mad Scientist

                        The problem is no talent we need the bold moves that brought Faulk, Williams, and drafted Holt here. Spags can win but not with what we got now. Martz could not do jack with this unit we got now.
                        :ramlogo:

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                          There's a reason Nutz isn't coaching right now. He's a cancer on any coaching staff, he can't adjust his game plan, and he doesn't know how to make an offense fit his talent. Nutz lucked into having the right personnel to fit his single minded offense and it continued to work until those players got old and he lost some of his pieces. His system hasn't worked anywhere else. It definately won't work with this bunch.
                          Last edited by bigredman; -10-07-2009, 03:53 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Dare I say bring back the Mad Scientist

                            i don't know about martz, or if he would even want to come back, but we should be on the market for creative minds.

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                            • #15
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                              Well the 9ers did do alright at the end of last year with Martz as coordinator and Detroit won 7 games with Martz in 2007 which is the most they've won since 2000 and when they dropped Martz they won 0 games the next season which in large part was due to their non risk taking offense.

                              I would probably take anything over Shurmer's system on offense if improvement isn't shown because it is just depressing with how bad this offense is right now. It's disapointing too because I thought the offense looked good at the end of last season.

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                                I am not only off the fence about martz I am in the process off tearing the fence down so I am not tempted to sit back on top of it.
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                              • RamWraith
                                This article makes me sick!
                                by RamWraith
                                Why is Martz shouldering the blame. UNREAL!! Kick some arse Mike, not the poor me crap.

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                                By taking the blame for everything, Martz solves nothing



                                BY JEFF GORDON
                                STLtoday.com Sports Columnist
                                10/09/2005

                                Mike Martz threw himself on his sword Sunday after his Rams served up a 37-31 victory to the Seattle Seahawks.

                                In fact, Martz threw himself on his sword again and again and again. The poor guy was perforated by the time he ended his postgame news conference -– which was delayed, we presumed, by his search for more things to personally take the blame for.

                                “This was Coach Martz’s loss,” he told the assembled reporters. “Put a big check mark on that.”

                                OK, if you insist. Let’s look over all the key categories:


                                The hideous play by the Rams secondary? Martz wanted to take the fall for that.

                                “I asked the defense to put in a new coverage,” he said. “They threw for two touchdowns against that coverage.” He kicked himself for meddling with defensive coordinator Larry Marmie’s business.


                                The team’s offensive woes in the third quarter? You knew that Mad Mike would shoulder that responsibility, too.

                                “Bad job of coaching coming out in the second half,” he said. “That was my worst job of calling plays.”


                                The overall game plan and play calling were lacking, too, Martz said.

                                “I wasn’t myself this week,” he said. “I probably should have let Steve (Fairchild) call the game.”

                                (Fairchild is the team’s offensive coordinator, which probably comes as a surprise to fans who didn’t realize the team had such a thing.)


                                Finally, Martz beat himself up for creating an unwanted distraction with his own bad health.

                                “I just feel like what happened to me really affected the team,” Martz said. “That breaks my heart.”

                                And, yes, Martz promised he would fix that, and quickly. With the help of the Rams medical staff, he insisted he would get the upper hand on the infection that settled into his heart valve.

                                Martz vowed he will feel better the next few weeks and get back to his old self, working long hours and obsessing over all the details.


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