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    Injuries add up for Rams


    Coach Steve Spagnuolo entered the week hoping for a little luck on the injury front.

    "We do have to get healthy," he said Monday. "We've got some guys that are banged up. We need to get some guys back."

    Instead, things went the other way Wednesday at Rams Park. Both starting wide receivers, Donnie Avery and Keenan Burton, couldn't finish practice because of what Spagnuolo termed sore hamstrings. Backup safety Anthony Smith, who spent most of the San Francisco game with the starting defense following Craig Dahl's concussion, couldn't finish practice because of an Achilles tendon problem.

    All told, the Rams' official injury report had seven players listed as limited participation. Six are potential starters Sunday when the unbeaten Minnesota Vikings visit the Edward Jones Dome.

    "We got a little more dinged today," Spagnuolo said following Wednesday's practice. "It's that time of the year in the NFL. Guys are going to be sore. They've just got to fight through 'em, and our guys are doing that."

    To cut down on wear and tear, the Rams weren't in full pads Wednesday, usually the one day of the week where most teams work in full gear during the regular season.

    Among the walking wounded, cornerback Ron Bartell (thigh) and Dahl appear the most ready to play Sunday ... just in time for Brett Favre.

    "It feels 10 times better — the week off really helped," said Bartell, who missed his first game since high school Sunday against San Francisco because of his thigh injury. "I feel like with the next four or five days, I'll make enough progress to play. I have every intention of playing and starting Sunday, and helping us win. So barring no setbacks, I'll be playing."

    Dahl, the starter at strong safety until James Butler (knee) returns in a week or so, suffered his concussion in the first quarter against the *****. "On a tackle I had made, I got hit in the side of the head by the running back," Dahl said. "I came up fine, but just a little disoriented. Could tell things weren't right. I stayed in the rest of the series and then came out."

    But Dahl passed the "baseline" memory and cognitive skills test Tuesday, a necessary first step for players returning from concussions. If he gets through the practice week without any post-concussion symptoms, he will be back in the lineup against Minnesota.

    Things aren't as clear cut at quarterback, where Marc Bulger is trying to work his way back to game readiness after suffering a bruised rotator cuff Sept. 27 against Green Bay.

    Last week, Bulger had test results sent to noted orthopedic surgeon James Andrews for a second opinion on his injured right shoulder.

    "He concurred with what the Rams staff said, and we've been treating it according to their diagnosis," Bulger said. "There's no structural damage. The ligament's intact. So it was all muscle strains and bruising, things like that. It doesn't make it less painful, but it's sound, which is good."

    Bulger did some throwing during Wednesday's practice, but no reps with the starting unit. All of that work went to Kyle Boller, who started in Bulger's place against the *****. Bulger's only work during 11-on-11 periods was as the scout team quarterback, running Minnesota offensive plays against the Rams' starting defense.

    "We're progressing well," Bulger said. "Threw in a little bit of pain. I've just got to get my strength back in my arm a little bit."

    Bulger plans to increase the amount of throwing in practice today. But barring rapid improvement over the next few days, it looks like he's still a week away from playing. On Wednesday, he threw mainly short tosses and didn't have much zip on the ball.

    "There's certain things he couldn't do," Spagnuolo said. "But it was good to see him out there throwing, taking snaps. ...We're trying to take it easy, and not (have him) make certain throws. I thought he looked OK."

    Bulger still doesn't have full range of motion in the shoulder, although he's much further along on that front than he was a week ago.

    "If it was just a throwing issue, I think I could get out there," Bulger said. "It's just a matter of taking a hit now. I think the trainers are able to tell by the level of weight (lifting) I can do and the exercises were doing in the training room if it's ready to take a hit."

    Meanwhile, offensive tackle Jason Smith had his first practice reps since suffering a knee injury in the first half Sept. 20 at Washington. However, it still looks like Alex Barron will be the starter at left tackle and Adam Goldberg the starter at right tackle against Minnesota. Smith's reps Wednesday were sprinkled in at various times at both tackle spots.

  • #2
    Re: Injuries Add Up For Rams

    i guess the hardest working people at Rams Park the past few seasons have been the medical staff,I don't know if it's bad luck or something else but this is getting silly,it's seems like every season this team has this same problem.


    • #3
      Re: Injuries Add Up For Rams

      Bulger lifts weights? I had no idea....

      Having Bulger wait one more week is probably the smart thing to do anyway. With the Vikings strong pass rushing abilities we all know Bulger would be getting hit alot. Boller will need to have his roller skates on for this game.
      sigpic :ram::helmet:


      • #4
        Re: Injuries Add Up For Rams

        I think we need to keep Bulger on the sideline this week. I don't want that, but we can go 0-5 and still have a legitimate run for the next 11 games.


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          St. Louis Rams Offense Back Together
          by r8rh8rmike
          St. Louis Rams offense back together

          BY JIM THOMAS [email protected]


          Quarterback Marc Bulger took snaps under center for the first time in 3˝ weeks. Rookie Jason Smith has been officially named the starting right tackle.

          So for the first time since the start of training camp, the entire Rams offense — starters and key contributors — was in place and on the field Wednesday.

          "We had a comment in the huddle today," tight end Randy McMichael said after practice. "It was like, 'Wow, we're all together again, finally, after a long layoff.' "

          Just in time for opening day in Seattle.

          "It was almost like: We're back," wide receiver Derek Stanley said. "It feels good. I think we've got big things coming up this year. Everybody's working hard, paying attention to the little things. Everybody's got that desire to win."

          Smith's "promotion" was no great surprise. It had become increasingly obvious over the past week or so that the No. 2 overall draft pick from Baylor would open the regular season in the lineup.

          "Obviously, it's a privilege to be able to say I'm going to (start) for the St. Louis Rams," Smith said. "The main thing is just proving myself and just being part of a great offensive line."

          There was more uncertainty about Bulger and the broken little finger on his throwing hand. Bulger has thrown the ball well lately, but the final test was taking snaps under center. By all accounts, he passed that test Wednesday in practice.

          "It went well, and I think we're where we want to be," Bulger said.

          Although listed as limited participation on the team's official injury report, Bulger said he took part in every drill in practice. However, he didn't take 100 percent of the snaps in every drill.

          "But it wasn't because of discomfort," Bulger said. "It was to keep Kyle (Boller) going. I was happy with the amount of reps I took."

          So no discomfort?

          "I wouldn't say no discomfort," Bulger said. "But it was bearable, and it's not going to affect whether I can get the ball (from center), which is a good thing."

          Bulger confessed to some anxiety about taking his first snaps since the one from center Jason Brown on Aug. 17 resulted in the broken finger.

          "Sure. I definitely lost some sleep over it," Bulger said. "You kind of worry that that first snap isn't going to go how you want it. You don't want to let your teammates down."

          But 20 minutes into taking snaps during practice, Bulger said he felt confident again. "It was good to be back out practicing," he said.

          From his, uh, end of things, Brown said everything went well...
          -09-10-2009, 03:11 PM
        • eldfan
          Bulger may play Sunday
          by eldfan
          BY BILL COATS

          It was feared that the shoulder injury Rams quarterback Marc Bulger suffered Sunday would end his season. Now, it's possible he might not even miss a game.

          Possible, but far from probable.

          "It'd have to be a major improvement," Bulger said Wednesday. "It's tough to judge. It's easier with a bone; you know exactly how long it's going to be to heal again. With muscles, it's a little bit more difficult."

          Bulger's injury has been diagnosed as a bruised rotator cuff. He didn't practice Wednesday but might try to toss a few passes today.

          "When he comes in in the morning, we'll decide whether he should try to throw," coach Steve Spagnuolo said.

          X-rays of Bulger's right (throwing) shoulder were sent to Dr. James Andrews, the noted sports orthopedist, for a second opinion. "It's not a reflection on anyone, just another set of eyes," Bulger said.

          Mobility of the joint, not discomfort, is the main issue, he explained.

          "I get to a certain point when I'm getting my arm back to throw, and it doesn't allow me to go back any further," Bulger said. "It's not just a pain thing or I'd be in there."

          While Bulger heals, Kyle Boller is working with the first-team offense as the Rams prepare for Sunday's game in San Francisco. Boller, who entered early in the second quarter Sunday and threw two touchdown passes in the 36-17 loss to Green Bay, is operating in limbo until Bulger's status is determined.

          "I haven't been told that I'm the guy," Boller said. "I'm just going to go out there and take the reps (at practice). If Marc can't go, then I'll make sure that I'm ready to step in and take over."

          Still, Bulger concedes nothing.

          "I'm trying to get healthy as quick as I can," he said. "I'm going to do what's smart for the team. But if I can practice this week, then definitely I'll go."


          Safety James Butler and tackle Jason Smith, each with a knee injury, also sat out practice. Spagnuolo has ruled out having Butler play Sunday. Smith did some individual work on the side; he is questionable for the game.

          Cornerback Ron Bartell (thigh) and tackle Alex Barron (thigh) were limited.


          The 53-man roster was filled Wednesday with the promotions of linebacker Dominic Douglas and defensive tackle Leger Douzable from the practice squad. Wide receiver Nate Jones had been moved up earlier.

          Those spots were created Tuesday when linebacker David Vobora received a four-game suspension for violating the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing substances, wide receiver Laurent Robinson (leg) was placed on injured reserve, and defensive...
          -10-01-2009, 07:28 AM
        • eldfan
          Bulger throws Monday, will try again Wednesday
          by eldfan
          Bulger throws Monday, will try again Wednesday
          By Kathleen Nelson
          St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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          Rams quarterback Marc Bulger engaged in what probably was the football equivalent of soft toss Monday briefly at Rams Park.

          “He was OK,” Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo, “didn’t throw it very far, but he’s trying to oil it up.”

          Spagnuolo guessed that Bulger would be listed as questionable on an injury report but was encouraged by the session.

          “That’s a long way away from a week ago, when he really couldn’t throw at all,” he said. “But that’s a tough call. We’ve got a whole day tomorrow. I think we’ll rest it and then see what he can do on Wedsenday.”

          Spagnuolo couldn’t estimate the intensity of the workout because he didn’t attend but added that Bulger had tested his right shoulder briefly before the 35-0 loss to San Francisco. Bulger was listed as the Rams’ third quarterback Sunday.

          “He did it to see if we got in the situation where we had to go to the third and he couldn’t hand off, could he dump it to the fullback. We needed to know that going in, in case we had that situation. Thank God we didn’t.”

          The rest of the Rams injury report:

          WR Danny Amendola suffered cramps in the game but should be OK.
          DB Ron Bartel (thigh) is still listed as day to day.
          OG Jacob Bell suffered back spasms but should be ready to practice.
          S James Butler (knee) will be monitored day to day but would be listed as doubtful.
          S Craig Dahl suffered a concussion and will be evaluated Tuesday.
          DT LaJuan Ramsey tweaked an ankle but should be ready to practice Wednesday.
          OT Jason Smith (knee) is day to day. “We should know more Wednesday,” Spagnuolo said.
          -10-05-2009, 06:50 PM
        • eldfan
          Rams Team Report
          by eldfan
          Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo didn't realize the half of it when he reported Monday that quarterback Marc Bulger was "pretty banged up."
          Spagnuolo went on to describe how Bulger had had an MRI in the morning for a hamstring/groin problem, would have baseline testing Tuesday for a potential concussion and would be having another MRI in late afternoon because of some swelling in his knee.

          That left leg MRI revealed that Bulger had a tibial plateau fracture, and he will miss anywhere from three to six weeks. The previous week, it was reported that Bulger had banged his knees, and since no one is able to pinpoint when the fracture occurred, it's possible it might have happened Nov. 15 against the Saints.

          A tibial plateau fracture occurs on the top surface of the tibia or shin bone where it meets the knee. The injury can be more serious if there is displacement or if it affects the middle of the knee or on the inside because of the weight-bearing nature of the bone. The size of the fracture is also important.

          Spagnuolo described the injury as "a hairline fracture" and said it is likely that the injury is to the lateral or outside part of the knee. It isn't out of the question that Bulger could be OK to play in three weeks.

          It appears the Rams' plan is not to place Bulger on injured reserve, even though the team is currently 1-9. Kyle Boller will start Sunday against Seattle, with rookie sixth-round pick Keith Null the backup.

          For this week, the apparent plan is to go with two quarterbacks. If another quarterback is added after this week, it likely would be Brock Berlin, who was with the team in training camp.

          There are also questions about whether Null will be provided an opportunity to play at some point. Bulger's salary is scheduled to be $8.5 million in 2010, and he would count $10.5 million if there is a salary cap next year.

          NOTES, QUOTES

          —In his third game for the Rams, wide receiver Brandon Gibson was targeted on 17 Marc Bulger passes, catching five for 61 yards. Afterward, the focus was more on the missed connections than the receptions.

          Asked about miscommunication on a couple of plays, Bulger said, "Yeah, there was more than a couple. I think that's going to happen with a young receiver. I'm not going to put it on him. It's just a matter of us working together. The more time we spend together, the more on the same page we will be."

          Gibson agreed, saying, "My biggest thing is not leaving plays on the field, and that's what I did today. I'm frustrated at myself because I know I can play at a high level. I think we've just got to get on the same page, me and Marc.

          "There were just some things that I did, and we just weren't on the same page there on the goal line. That's two plays that stick out in my head, and I've got to do my best to come...
          -11-25-2009, 08:26 AM
        • r8rh8rmike
          Bulger Says Arm Is Strong/Other Camp Notes
          by r8rh8rmike
          NOTEBOOK: Bulger says arm is strong
          BY JIM THOMAS

          Nearly two weeks into training camp it's not unusual for players to get "camp legs." Or quarterbacks to get "camp arm."

          But Rams quarterback Marc Bulger reports no arm fatigue heading into Friday's preseason opener against the New York Jets.

          "They've been keeping a 'quote' pitch count for me," Bulger said Tuesday. "I've only been in the 60s or 70s (in throws) for practices, which has been great for me. I've thrown a lot more, I think, in the past."

          The Rams have had more two-a-day practices this camp than in the past. So although Bulger is throwing less each practice, the Rams have had more practices. Even so, Bulger says his arm "hasn't gotten sore yet. It feels fresh, so I think they've done a great job with that."


          Bulger said the missed practice time with Donnie Avery hurts more than the preseason games the wide receiver will miss with his fractured foot.

          "The (missed) reps with him is definitely going to affect us," Bulger said. "It's not a good thing when you have young guys like that in a new offense — and we're trying to get our timing down — and he's going to miss this time."

          As for the rest of the wide receiver corps, Bulger said, "There's a lot of competition. Guys are flying around. I think their legs are getting a little bit tired. But Coach has cut back a bit, so we're starting to get those (legs) back. But it's been a grind installing the whole offense."


          Although progress has been relatively slow, coach Steve Spagnuolo still feels defensive tackle Hollis Thomas can round himself into playing shape in time for the regular-season opener.

          "He's coming around," Spagnuolo said. "We need to knock his weight down a little bit. Him and I have talked. He's working hard at it. I do think he is still a little rusty. I know he's not the player that (he was) when we were together back in Philadelphia, but I still think he's a good football player, and I think he'll get there."


          In terms of catches, wide receiver Derek Stanley may have had his most productive practice of camp Tuesday morning. He's continuing to round into form following knee surgery last winter. But as Spagnuolo sees it, Stanley's progress has as much to do with working on the finer points of the game as anything physical.

          "Derek is becoming a detail guy, which we felt he had to do. And I think the details are paying off," Spagnuolo said. "He's catching the ball well; he holds it a lot better now. He's a talent. We've just got to get him out there in games and see what happens."

          -08-12-2009, 11:07 AM