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  • Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

    Smith sends e-mail detailing opposition
    By Chris Mortensen
    ESPN
    Sunday, October 11, 2009

    NFL Players executive director DeMaurice Smith on Saturday made a move to solidify the union against a bid by conservative talk show radio host Rush Limbaugh as part of a group that aims to purchase the St. Louis Rams.

    In an e-mail to the union's executive committee on Saturday specifically addressing Limbaugh's bid, Smith said, "I've spoken to the Commissioner [Roger Goodell] and I understand that this ownership consideration is in the early stages. But sport in America is at its best when it unifies, gives all of us reason to cheer, and when it transcends. Our sport does exactly that when it overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred."

    Limbaugh and St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts are among six potential ownership groups that have discussed buying the Rams. League sources say the current sale price has ranged from $700-to-$750 million but that there did not appear to be an imminent transaction.

    On Sunday, Smith briefly elaborated, "This communication is more about what we stand for than the reality of our role in any franchise sale. While it's true the subject matter was related [to Limbaugh's bid], I do understand that the NFL does not present ownership bids to me or the NFLPA. I encourage our players to express their views."

    At least seven NFL players have publicly opposed Limbaugh's interest in purchasing the Rams with Checketts. In Smith's communication Saturday with his executive committee, the union leader encouraged players to speak their mind on all matters, including Limbaugh's bid.

    "I have asked our players to embrace their roles not only in the game of football but also as players and partners in the business of the NFL," said Smith in the e-mail. "They risk everything to play this game, they understand that risk and they live with that risk and its consequences for the rest of their life. We also know that there is an ugly part of history and we will not risk going backwards, giving up, giving in or lying down to it.

    "Our men are strong and proud sons, fathers, spouses and I am proud when they stand up, understand this is their profession and speak with candor and blunt honesty about how they feel."

    Limbaugh has expressed a number of controversial racial ideas in the past. For example, he suggested that Gen. Colin Powell supported Barack Obama's presidential candidacy simply because he was black, and he also stated that the media wants black quarterbacks to do well and that Donovan McNabb doesn't deserve much of the credit he has received for the Eagles' success.

    Among the half-dozen interested buyers of the Rams, there are strong African-American ownership groups interested in buying the Rams, including businessmen Donald Watkins and Dave Steward.

    The league has maintained it does not publicly address potential franchise sales. All transactions, when formally presented after a thorough background check, are decided by the 32 owners by vote.
    Not meant to start a political discussion - and a discussion on politics will not be allowed - but simply trying to report developments in Rams-related news.

  • #2
    Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

    It seems like this guy DeMaurice Smith is trying to politicize this situation as much as possible, IMO. If Rush Limbaugh wants to buy the Rams, he should be allowed to, regardless of whether or not the head of the Player's Union disagrees with him.

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    • #3
      Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

      i figured this would happen, and i think the goodell and the owners will probably agree, though i believe they aren't allowed to speak of it publicly.

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      • #4
        Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

        six groups? wow. Hopefully they're all interested in keeping the team in St. Louis. As much as I'd like to see African-American ownership in the league Watkins is from Birmingham and they're trying to build a new stadium. I don't trust him.

        -- I agree with the NFLPA though. The thought of politics never enterered the discourse until Rush was interested in buying the team. He's too polarizing. Its just not a good move.
        Still I'm confident the right ownership will be found and the team will stay where it belongs.

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          • #6
            Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

            I don't really care either way who buys the team, but I will say Demaurice Smith is just as biased as Limbaugh. He has no right to open his mouth.

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            • #7
              Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

              Originally posted by ScottD413 View Post
              I don't really care either way who buys the team, but I will say Demaurice Smith is just as biased as Limbaugh. He has no right to open his mouth.
              could not have said it better, this guy is trying to turn it into a racial thing and thats just wrong and he should stay the hell out of it,if someone like Al Sharpton who is just as controversial was one of the potential buyers would he be saying the same thing, I don't think so.

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              • #8
                Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

                with our proud history of being fore-runners in the process of integrating players into the NFL on talent instead of skin colours..as opposed to the stance the Redskins for example took...i`d hate to see us soil that!

                also i kinda feel sorry for Checketts because i think he would make a great active owner..but having Limbaugh onboard has already undermined his role..and he hasnt even become the owner yet.

                anyway,i cant see either Chip & lucia selling to any group that Limbaugh is a part of or the rest of the NFL owners not voting against it..maybe limbaugh would get past one of those two hurdles but i think the odds of both passing..are bigger odds than someone other than Ursain Bolt winning the 100m race at the next olympics.

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                • #9
                  Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

                  Originally posted by jkramsfan View Post
                  could not have said it better, this guy is trying to turn it into a racial thing and thats just wrong and he should stay the hell out of it,if someone like Al Sharpton who is just as controversial was one of the potential buyers would he be saying the same thing, I don't think so.
                  So he's opposed because Rush is white, but he'd have no problem with Sharpton because he's black? Come on. Now you're sounding like Rush;
                  Limbaugh has expressed a number of controversial racial ideas in the past. For example, he suggested that Gen. Colin Powell supported Barack Obama's presidential candidacy simply because he was black
                  Let's delete this thread before it gets ugly again, and it will, and just wait to see if this actually happens. Haven't we already had to delete enough of these Limbaugh threads?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

                    Originally posted by bigredman View Post
                    So he's opposed because Rush is white, but he'd have no problem with Sharpton because he's black? Come on. Now you're sounding like Rush;


                    Let's delete this thread before it gets ugly again, and it will, and just wait to see if this actually happens. Haven't we already had to delete enough of these Limbaugh threads?
                    BRM, do you know for sure thats not the case ?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

                      I am always floored at how angry Rush Limbaugh makes people of the liberal persuasion. He is a talk show host! He is not a world leader or a politician directing public policy, he simply espouses a point-of-view that you are free to disagree with.

                      I'm sorry, this race thing is a bunch of bull. Limbaugh's comments are no worse from a racial perspective than many "respected" members of the black community that I hear often on a weekly basis.

                      I think we need to accept diversity. Diversity is a good thing, but lets not simply limit diversity to skin color.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

                        i agree with Big Red that this is gonna get out of hand again...but what a thing to have..we gotta be the only fans website where talking about a potential owner (albeit a potential part owner ) is a taboo subject. please let us be owned by somebody else for that reason alone.

                        Limbaugh makes racist comments..and yes im sure people of all skin colours also make racist comments..but is only Limbaugh that is interested in buying the Rams. so he`s the only one whose outspoken views matter when we talking about all things Rams..

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                        • #13
                          Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

                          Originally posted by swatter555 View Post
                          I am always floored at how angry Rush Limbaugh makes people of the liberal persuasion. He is a talk show host! He is not a world leader or a politician directing public policy, he simply espouses a point-of-view that you are free to disagree with.

                          I'm sorry, this race thing is a bunch of bull. Limbaugh's comments are no worse from a racial perspective than many "respected" members of the black community that I hear often on a weekly basis.

                          I think we need to accept diversity. Diversity is a good thing, but lets not simply limit diversity to skin color.
                          If you don't see his ability to affect public policy and opinion, you have not been paying attention to events in this country. Limbaugh is more than a talk show host, simply because of the number of people he can reach and sway.

                          As for whether or not they are more worse than what Al Sharpton says, that is irrelevant, for they are equally bad. The difference is Sharpton doesn't want to buy a stake in the Rams.

                          Keeping the team in St. Louis is not worth being spat on and despised by large chunks of the population.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

                            whether you agree with the perception of the guy or not, the perception is there and always will be, particularly among the black community, which happens to make up most of the nfl. nobody's going to take a risk on this guy in this league, trust me. if he wants to make a move towards a baseball team i could see it happening - it's not necessarily right, it's just the way it is.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Union opposes Rush Limbaugh's bid to buy St. Louis Rams

                              Originally posted by jkramsfan View Post
                              BRM, do you know for sure thats not the case ?
                              Do you know for sure it is?

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                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Sources: Checketts To Drop Limbaugh
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                Updated: October 14, 2009, 3:36 PM ET
                                Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh
                                By Adam Schefter ESPN Archive


                                Rush Limbaugh is expected to be dropped from a group bidding to buy the St. Louis Rams, according to three NFL sources.

                                Dave Checketts, chairman of the NHL's St. Louis Blues and the point man in the Limbaugh group attempting to buy the Rams, realizes he must remove the controversial conservative radio host from his potential role as a minority member in the group in order to get approval from other NFL owners, the sources said.

                                Three-quarters of the league's 32 owners would have to approve any sale to Limbaugh and his group. Earlier this week, Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay predicted that Limbaugh's potential bid would be met by significant opposition. Several players have also voiced their displeasure with Limbaugh's potential ownership position, and NFL Players Association head DeMaurice Smith, who is black, urged players to speak out against Limbaugh's bid.

                                Ultimately, the sources said, Checketts must reconfigure his group and find another investor to make his bid more viable.

                                Exactly when Limbaugh will be dropped is uncertain, though some familiar with the situation said it could be within the next week. It is unclear if the two sides even have spoken.

                                Earlier Wednesday, on his syndicated radio show, Limbaugh was defiant, holding on to hope that he still could be part of the ownership group that buys the Rams.

                                "I'm not even thinking of exiting," Limbaugh said on his program, according to a transcript provided to ESPN. "I'm not even thinking of caving. I am not a caver. None of us are. We have been betrayed by too many who have caved. Pioneers take the arrows. We are pioneers. It's a sad thing but our country over 200 years old now needs pioneers all over again, but we do."

                                Without Limbaugh, Checketts and his group would have to find a financial substitute to replace the sizable investment that Limbaugh intended to make. At the NFL owners meetings this week in Boston, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell addressed Limbaugh's potential involvement in the league and said "divisive comments are not what the NFL is all about."

                                Goodell added: "I've said many times before, we're all held to a high standard here. I would not want to see those comments coming from people who are in a responsible position in the NFL -- absolutely not."

                                In 2003, Limbaugh was forced to resign from ESPN's Sunday Night Football broadcast after saying of Philadelphia's Donovan McNabb: "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."
                                -10-14-2009, 12:40 PM
                              • RamsFanSam
                                Verified per nfl network-no rush
                                by RamsFanSam
                                According to Rich Eisen on Total Access, Checketts announced that Limbaugh is no longer part of the group trying to purchase the Rams.

                                More to follow.
                                -10-14-2009, 04:21 PM
                              • MauiRam
                                Limbaugh, Checketts join in bid for Rams ..
                                by MauiRam
                                By Jim Thomas and Jeremy Rutherford
                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                                10/06/2009

                                Radio personality Rush Limbaugh has joined forces with St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts in a bid to buy the St. Louis Rams football team, NFL sources confirmed Monday.

                                The Checketts group has made its bid on the team and plans to keep the team in St. Louis.

                                According to league sources, there are multiple bidders for the Rams as the potential sale of the team has advanced to a second stage from looking for potential buyers to evaluating the merits of bidders. It is not known who the other bidders are.

                                "I certainly think individual bidders have the right to discuss their interest in the club," said Kevin Demoff, the Rams' executive vice president of football operations. "There's really nothing for us to say. It's really not fair to anybody involved in the process.

                                "There is no inevitability for the team to wind up being for sale anyway. There may be bidders, but that doesn't mean there will be a sale. Ownership has said all along it would go through this process and evaluate its options. They are under no pressure to sell the team."

                                Checketts, the founder and chief executive officer of SCP Worldwide, a New York-based firm that owns and operates the Blues, would be the frontman for a group of investors that would purchase at minimum the 60 percent share of the Rams owned by Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez, the son and daughter of the Rams' late owner, Georgia Frontiere.

                                Sources with the Checketts group say there is no timetable for the Rams to respond to bids.

                                Limbaugh, a conservative political commentator, first mentioned his interest in the Rams last May. He was unavailable to the Post-Dispatch for comment but in a statement sent to KMOX radio, Limbaugh said: "Dave and I are part of a bid to buy the Rams, and we are continuing the process. But I can say no more because of a confidentiality clause in our agreement with Goldman Sachs. We cannot and will not talk about our partners. But if we prevail we will be the operators of the team."

                                Limbaugh, originally from Cape Girardeau, Mo., worked briefly as a commentator for ESPN's NFL pregame show in 2003 but resigned amid controversy over his remarks about media coverage of Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb.

                                Forbes magazine recently valued the Rams franchise at more than $900 million, but it's believed the Rams' sale might fetch $800 million or less given the state of the economy and the state of the team, which in recent years has been in the bottom third of NFL franchises in terms of revenue.

                                By NFL rule, the Checketts group would have no other choice but to keep the team in St. Louis because of its ties to the Blues. NFL cross-ownership rules prohibit owners from also owning Major League Baseball, National...
                                -10-06-2009, 08:58 AM
                              • Varg6
                                With Limbaugh out, Faulk to join bid?
                                by Varg6
                                ST. LOUIS -- Conservative radio personality Rush Limbaugh lashed out at NFL union leader DeMaurice Smith, activists Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the media a day after being dropped from a group trying to buy the St. Louis Rams.

                                On his syndicated show Thursday, Limbaugh said he was approached by St. Louis Blues chairman Dave Checketts earlier this year about participating in a Rams bid. Checketts assured him his involvement as a minority investor had been vetted by the NFL, he said.

                                "I said to him at this meeting, 'Are you aware of the firestorm?' He said 'We wouldn't have approached you if we hadn't taken care of that,' " said Limbaugh, a conservative favorite who is reviled by many liberals.


                                AP Photo/Photo courtesy of Rush Limbaugh
                                Rush Limbaugh is blaming the players union in part for his being dropped from a potential Rams ownership group.
                                Limbaugh added that Checketts had told him his involvement had been cleared at the "highest levels of the NFL."

                                NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and Colts owner Jim Irsay each expressed misgivings this week at a league-wide meeting about Limbaugh's involvement, with Goodell saying Limbaugh had made "polarizing" comments and Irsay vowing to vote against him.

                                On Wednesday, Checketts said Limbaugh had been dropped from the bid.

                                "This reflects where we're moving in an ethical nature," said Dan Lebowitz, executive director of the Center for Sports and Society at Northeastern University.

                                "The league has 78 percent African-American players," Lebowitz said. "Do you bring in someone who has made racist statements to own a team that's largely made up of players the owner has made slurring statements about?"

                                With Limbaugh out, the Checketts group is sifting through new investors. A person familiar with the process said global financier and philanthropist George Soros is not under consideration to be a part of the Checketts group. Former Rams running back Marshall Faulk could be part of it, a source said.

                                Checketts is a ways away from reconfiguring the investment group, as the Rams are a ways from being sold at this point.

                                During a 15-minute counterattack at the start of his show, Limbaugh said he believes he's been made an example by a players' union seeking leverage in talks over a new collective bargaining agreement. What happened to him was an illustration of "Obama's America on full display," the commentator said.

                                Limbaugh's history hurt his participation in the bid. In 2003, he was forced to resign from ESPN's "Sunday NFL Countdown" after saying of the Eagles' Donovan McNabb: "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."

                                According to transcripts...
                                -10-15-2009, 08:25 PM
                              • GreatestShow99
                                Rush Limbaugh wants to own the Rams
                                by GreatestShow99
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                                Hey Rams, Rush is interested

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                                Rush Limbaugh, the conservative talk radio host, said he would be interested in buying the St. Louis Rams if the team were for sale. "The Rams would be a great team to have," Limbaugh said in a phone interview from his Palm Beach, Fla., studio. "I have a lot of friends in ownership in the NFL, and my desire to get involved has not been a secret." Limbaugh grew up in Cape Girardeau but said that does not play into his thinking about the Rams. "This is a business decision," he said. And even for Limbaugh, whose new eight-year syndication deal with Premiere Radio Networks is estimated to be worth $300 million, buying into the NFL would be a stretch. "I have no debt whatsoever. This would require changing that," he said. "There is a whole lot of interest in the Rams with the NFL being a business entity that a lot of people want to be involved in. But it's becoming a billionaires' club."
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