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    I feel like our defense is a few players short from becoming a full-fledged solid unit, that may develop into a defensive powerhouse.

    Our run defense week in and week out are continually stopping good running backs.

    Our secondary is holding it's own against premier QBs and wide receivers when they have no pass rush help from our D-Line.

    Our linebackers and D-Line are great at bottling up the run.

    Lauranaitis is our man of the future. This kid is solid.

    Gibson and Ryan showed a lot of improvement, as they kept on collapsing lanes.

    Chris Long is always somehow around the ball.

    What I think is if we add:

    1 pass rushing DE
    1 solid SLB
    1 veteran corner

    We will be in very good shape. Once Dorrell Scott develops, he and Lajuan Ramsey will make a very good rotational DT unit.

    Plus the fact when we get a fully functional offense to help ease pressure off our defense, our defense is going to be very hard to break.

  • #2
    Re: Our defense

    I would throw in a couple of DT's. I don't think we have one solid DT on the roster.


    • #3
      Re: Our defense

      Yeah, we held Adrian Peterson to only 69 yards, now thats a run defense. I agree we also need a pass rusher, if we can get a pass rusher, we don't need another CB our CBs are doing great considering how much time the opposing QB is getting.


      • #4
        Re: Our defense

        I thought our pass rushing was better this game but unfortunately it was against Favre. That man is just wicked elusive.

        If we had been facing any team with more of a pocket quarterback I think we would have tallied up some sacks.



        • #5
          Re: Our defense

          Little will be replaced as he is at the end of his contract. That's the key, get a pass rusher. #2, SLB is a must.

          After that I think we are talking backups. Veteran #4 CB, run stuffing DTs as backups and this is a premier defense. Scott needs to get some playing time to be a starter next season.


          • #6
            Re: Our defense

            id like to see Darell Scott get some snaps..but at this point i think we need an upgrade at UT..someone who can pass rush and free up Long and our other DE` the moment opposing O-lines just work the edges because they can see that nothing is gonna come through the middle.. rotating players into different positions is good..but if we only have 2 players on a line that can pass rush then they know how to deal with that....only when we have an entire line that can pass rush will they be fooled by it.
            Last edited by Ramblin` Ram; -10-12-2009, 03:08 PM.


            • #7
              Re: Our defense

              A young, true pass rusher is indeed needed for this defense, if only because Little won't be here next year. If we had a young, hot rusher from the right side, it would free Long to be the left end that I think he can be. He can destroy a right tackle in this league, he just needs to be given the chance.
              I believe!:ram:


              • #8
                Re: Our defense

                Originally posted by TekeRam
                A young, true pass rusher is indeed needed for this defense, if only because Little won't be here next year. If we had a young, hot rusher from the right side, it would free Long to be the left end that I think he can be. He can destroy a right tackle in this league, he just needs to be given the chance.
                Agreed, I think Long's future is on the left side of the D-line. Once Little leaves, that position will be free for Chris, and then the Rams can hopefully find someone to consistent challenge the QB's blind side.

                I agree with tx that I think we need more help at DT. Our young guys are playing some solid football at times, but this unit could certainly benefit from having someone in the middle of the line more consistently shutting things down against the run or collapsing the interior of the pocket with a strong rush. That will help our DE's out as well since passers won't simply be able to step up to avoid a wide outside rush.

                The Rams may be able to find a solid veteran SAM linebacker in free agency. It's tough to spend a relatively high pick (read: first three rounds) on the position since at some point some LB is going to have to come off the field in passing situations, and generally that's the SAM linebacker. But an improvement over Grant and Vobora would certainly help while they serve as reserves.

                In the secondary, I hope either Wade, King, or Fletcher emerges as a true starting cornerback. The fact that Fletcher saw a lot of the #2 CB action against Minnesota makes me think Wade hasn't locked this job down yet for this season. I really haven't seen much of King to be impressed. Wouldn't be shocked if we look for another potential starting CB as well, though this front office may want to see Fletcher try to win that job.

                Still, I do agree with the original post. This defense, believe it or not, probably isn't that far off from being a respectable unit. There have been some bumps on the road so far and probably will continue to be, but I think the direction is right and hopefully Spags and company can build a competitive unit.


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                • CanadianRam!
                  Our secondary not so bad after all...
                  by CanadianRam!
                  Although our secondary has been much criticized this year, I think it actually has been our strength on our less than stellar D. On paper, our secondary looks below average but even with injuries to players, our secondary for the most part has held up well. Even with little to no pass rush, our pass defense ranks 8th in the NFL, above defenses such as Baltimore, San Diego, New England, Seattle and Denver. A lot of that contributes to our lack of strength on rush defense, but on the flip side, our secondary shouldn’t be blamed for RBs getting through the front 7 untouched, leading to big gains. This opportunistic group combined for 11 interceptions and 4 Fumble recoveries and it seems to tighten up in the endzone as we have been fortunate to get many interceptions as the opponents are driving inside our 20 (bend but don’t break). Brown, although inconsistent at times, has been a good FA signing for Haslett as he has played adequately as our #1 corner. Hill is up and coming & improving as his 3 interceptions tie him for the rookie lead. Fisher, our scapegoat of the year, played about average and not as bad as people thought and Bartell has played solid in limited opportunities (should have had an interception last week, but wiped out by Little’s penalty). Chavous provides leadership to this young group and is an upgrade over Arch and Atogwe with his 3 interceptions, plays his heart out game in and out (remember the game against Seattle when he chased down Wallace) although he has some tackling issues. Overall, our secondary, despite its inconsistencies and injuries, has performed above their talent level and has been a bright and opportunistic part of our D. It will be crucial for them to perform well in our Monday nighter for us to have a chance against Grossman and co.

                  GO RAMS :r
                  -12-07-2006, 04:23 PM
                • Rambos
                  Is our defense to small?
                  by Rambos
                  Is our defense to small?
                  -12-11-2006, 10:30 AM
                • chiguy
                  Rams defense...we still have a ways to go
                  by chiguy
                  In a thread posted on here two weeks ago discussing the defense, I said that they were clearly improved but that we should temper our excitement because we hadn't been playing very good offenses. Yesterday, we faced a pretty good offense so I thought it would be a good time to revisit the subject.

                  Although we didn't get torched yesterday, I do think it showed that we had a way to go. First, despite shutting down the passing game, I think we can all agree that some of that has to do with the fact with the weather yesterday. The CBs played decently except for a few notable lapses (the dropped INT, e.g.), but I'd like to see them play that well in decent weather before I get *too* excited. The visions of Lenny Walls getting burned in Dallas are too recent for me to fall completely for these guys just yet. We also really need a safety who can come up and cover too.

                  Second, we have no pass rush. Although we didn't blitz a ton yesterday, the Bengals offensive line did a good job of keeping us away from Palmer. Indeed, it showed that if our blitzes get picked up right now that we can't generate much pressure on the QB. If we got more from the ends in particular, it would help the defense take that next step.

                  Finally, despite much improved play by the interior defensive line, they still have work to do. They absolutely got manhandled in the 4th quarter yesterday. Carricker is for real and Ryan is proably -- at worst -- a very good rotational player. Still, we need at least one other guy we can count on. I wonder if they've considered getting Adeyanju some reps at DT because he seems made for running downs and is a reliable tackler.

                  In short, while the defense is obviously better, we're still a couple of players away from being "good" in my opinion. I'd really love to see a playmaking defensive end, better rotational depth on the interior line, and another safety. Interestingly, linebacker is at the bottom of my list...when was the last time we weren't concerned about linebackers?
                  -12-10-2007, 06:31 AM
                • viper
                  How do we improve our pass rush?
                  by viper
                  One of the biggest problems that the Rams have had over the last several years is no pass rush. Quarterbacks have been able to sit back and pick us apart at will.

                  What do you think we need to do to get a consistent pass rush from our defense. What is the problem?
                  -09-24-2009, 01:23 PM
                • Rambos
                  Which is our best unit?
                  by Rambos
                  At this point in the offseason, which side of the ball do you think is the best.
                  -05-11-2009, 04:37 PM