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    This is not meant to be a cop out, our offense didnt play up to snuff although i dont think they were horrible. Our play calling was beyond bad on some plays, and just what we needed on other plays (the screen to jackson on the final game tying drive).

    But seriously the refs are making me sick to my stomach. These BS pass interference calls are getting on my nerves. The holt catch that was clearly out of bounds to anything that has eyes. How can this happen in a leauge were the refs are relied upon to make this game fair? I am begining to think that goodal wants another 0-16 team so he can pressure us into moving to LA.

  • #2
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    Don't worry we'll get an apology from the league when they review the tape of the game!
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    • #3
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      Originally posted by dgr828 View Post
      Don't worry we'll get an apology from the league when they review the tape of the game!
      now do the refs get fined for blowing a call if it is proven that it was the wrong call ?

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      • #4
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        No, but the refs are evaluated every week and are graded. The refs truly do try their best and sometimes they just screw it up. Just look at Hochuli last year in the first Denver/SD game. There's no conspiracy against the Rams.
        I believe!:ram:

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by TekeRam View Post
          No, but the refs are evaluated every week and are graded. The refs truly do try their best and sometimes they just screw it up. Just look at Hochuli last year in the first Denver/SD game. There's no conspiracy against the Rams.
          This I will disagree with until one of two things happen. My death, at which point I won't be here to disagree, or the St Louis RAMS have a ten year Dynasty that is a direct result of multiple bad calls or non-calls against their opponents. Especially when those opponents are the 9ers, cheatriots, stealers, donkeys, etc.

          The league has had a vendetta against the RAMS since they moved to St Louis, and a vendetta against St Louis since they were the better all around city for the expansion team that went to Jacksonville, FL.

          gap

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by gap View Post
            This I will disagree with until one of two things happen. My death, at which point I won't be here to disagree, or the St Louis RAMS have a ten year Dynasty that is a direct result of multiple bad calls or non-calls against their opponents. Especially when those opponents are the 9ers, cheatriots, stealers, donkeys, etc.

            The league has had a vendetta against the RAMS since they moved to St Louis, and a vendetta against St Louis since they were the better all around city for the expansion team that went to Jacksonville, FL.

            gap
            I hear ya!

            Over the last 10 seasons the NFL has lost a lot of credibility with me.


            :helmet:

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            • #7
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              I really despise how we always seem to be on the losing end of those calls. However, it will be nice when we have a team good enough to overcome bad calls...

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by TekeRam View Post
                No, but the refs are evaluated every week and are graded. The refs truly do try their best and sometimes they just screw it up. Just look at Hochuli last year in the first Denver/SD game. There's no conspiracy against the Rams.
                I don't buy that there's an actual conspiracy against the Rams by the league or the officials, but it does seem as if the Rams come out on the short side of numerous calls, including anything that's close at all. Some will argue that that's simply a bad team not getting the breaks, but in an objective situation, the bad team has to get the break at some point right? The Rams hardly ever do; in fact I'm not sure I can remember the last time they did.

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                • #9
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                  Please stop blaming the defense. If our offense does anything in the second half we would have won that game

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                  • #10
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                    We can't blame 0-6 on Refs, we've barely even been competative. The Rams are just a bad team from top to bottom. This is years of bad drafting, the Rams didn't get here in a season and they won't get out unless they're ballsy enough to do the trades to make it happen, and are aggressive in Free Agency. If we are truly in a rebuilding stage, there is no reason to keep a player like Jackson here and make him suffer, and use him up the great years of his career. I like Jackson, but we're not winning anything this year, the likely hood of us running the table for the rest of the year, with the way the team has been playing is highly un likely.

                    Yes I think the Refs are imperfect, and I'm the first to admit that, but this is not one of those times.

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                    • #11
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                      I see your point but I would only ship Jackson out( I would not trade him)if I received quality known players, I don't want a bunch of extra draft picks that once they select them hope they work out or even make the team. Do we really need anymore $50 million rookies on the team.

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                      • #12
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                        Refs make mistakes in every league. You get frustrated by their calls sometimes, but it happens. They don't do it on purpose.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
                          They don't do it on purpose.

                          Have to disagree with ya on this one. I have been trying to find this on video (to no avail, dang it), but in last year's heartbreaking loss to the Cheatriots, there was a flag thrown against them that almost gave the Rams a fighting chance, which sent Belicheat into a total tantrum. Luckily for me, I have been working on my lip-reading skills (I'm hard of hearing), and saw him mouth the words, "That's not what I f***ing pay you for!" It was as plain as day, and rather obvious. If I can ever find it, I'll post it.
                          sigpicThis is for Randy! GO BRM!

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by MOM View Post
                            Have to disagree with ya on this one. I have been trying to find this on video (to no avail, dang it), but in last year's heartbreaking loss to the Cheatriots, there was a flag thrown against them that almost gave the Rams a fighting chance, which sent Belicheat into a total tantrum. Luckily for me, I have been working on my lip-reading skills (I'm hard of hearing), and saw him mouth the words, "That's not what I f***ing pay you for!" It was as plain as day, and rather obvious. If I can ever find it, I'll post it.
                            That game last year also had about 3 roughing the passer plays on bulger that were never called.

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by jjigga3000 View Post
                              We can't blame 0-6 on Refs, we've barely even been competative.
                              I dont think you can say we havent been competitive. The players are competing as hard as you would want as a fan. The problem is the talent on the team.
                              @EssexRam_

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                              • RamWraith
                                What about the Refs? -- Gap?
                                by RamWraith
                                Was it just me or did the Refs look like they were in preseason form Friday night? There was really marginal calls.

                                --Holts catch
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                              • Milan
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                                by Milan
                                Are you kidding me?

                                That was awful officiating. 2 Non-called PIs then right after the first, they call an iffy one on Chavous. The 3rd-down where they gave them pretty much 2 extra yards. The Horse Collar call?

                                They didn't cost us the game but they did their best to give it away.
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                              • Atlas
                                Opinions on the job of the Refs today
                                by Atlas
                                How do you think the refs did in today's games? I think all the games ran very smoothly, except maybe the Raiders game. The Rams and Titans games went better then most. The Titans game had more flags then any other so far, I think. But all of them were right on the money. Typical Titans ball. ;) Looking forward to seeing how this little drama plays out. And also hearing what Jim Rome has to say about the NFL's new offer.
                                -09-09-2001, 11:47 PM
                              • Nick
                                Round Two: Ripping the replacement refs
                                by Nick
                                Round Two: Ripping the replacement refs
                                3 hours ago • POST-DISPATCH

                                QUESTION OF THE DAY:

                                Have NFL games been adversely affected by the use of replacement officials? If so, in what ways?

                                JIM THOMAS, Post-Dispatch NFL writer:

                                1. They're indecisive on calls: Call what you see and live with it.

                                2. They lack command of the games: On several occasions in the Rams-Redskins game, it looked like the teams were on the verge of an all-out brawl.

                                3. They're asleep at the wheel: Shouldn't someone have noticed the clock operator mistake in Detroit?

                                4. They're flat-out blowing calls: It sure looked like Steven Jackson crossed the plane on his 3rd-and-goal from the 1 run in the second quarter Sunday. In a one-score game, that call loomed large all day.

                                BRYAN BURWELL, Post-Dispatch columnist:

                                The NFL has a big problem here. As one player said on Sunday after the Rams game, it's a lawless land.

                                Players know the replacement refs are being timid because they really are unsure what to do.

                                So instead of making a mistake, they're choosing to do nothing at all and the game is now out of control. One player told me: "These guys are scared to take control and it's ridiculous out there. Dangerous. The league has to stop this."

                                The integrity of the game is at stake. Player safety is at risk when officials can't control this violent game.

                                JEFF GORDON, STLtoday.com columnist, writing in his Tipsheet blog:

                                "Head referee Wayne Elliottand his replacement crew got overwhelmed Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome. They didn’t know the rules. They missed calls left and right.

                                "Worst of all, they lost control of the game — setting up a 'Thunderdome' scenario as the Rams and Redskins took liberties with each other during and after the play.

                                "At times, the hapless Elliott looked like a substitute shop teacher trying to break up a classroom hammer fight."

                                JOE STRAUSS, Post-Dispatch sportswriter:

                                NFL games have long been "adversely affected" by refs, replacement and regular. Sunday's fiasco at The Ed amplified the narrative. But to suggest the problem ends when the "real" refs return is to suspend reality. There have been wins gifted — and point spreads skewed — by poor officiating for years, including the Chargers-Broncos-Hochuli debacle several years ago.

                                The replacements have no voice. They're an easy punching bag. Criticism should be focused on the same Commissioner who once proposed an 18-game schedule while pretending to care about player safety. The issue won't end with the return of real refs. But the product will be slicker and the TV timeouts more punctual. Problem solved.

                                RICK HUMMEL, Post-Dispatch sportswriter:

                                It actually seems as if there haven't been any...
                                -09-17-2012, 01:58 PM
                              • jdpbmo
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                                Okay, enough is enough. I can usually sit by and hold my piece, but I am so tired of this idiotic process the NFL uses to review calls. It isn't that I'm against the reviewing of questionable calls. I am 100 % for it. I want the call to be right. A noncall or wrong call shouldn't cost a team the game. It all came to a head in the Detroit/GB game when they didn't bother reviewing the touchdown late in the game. How crazy was that? If I was in charge of that part of the game, there would be some people looking for work tomorrow. My main problem with the process is that you are asking officials that make a call, or maybe don't make a call, to reverse their own decision. You are asking them to second-guess themselves or perhaps members of their crew. Now we can sit there and say "well, so what if they have to reverse a call to get it right". Hey, news flash, these officials have egos. They don't want to come out and say "sorry everyone, we just blew that last call". So they look at the replay to satisfy us, then come back and say "indisputable evidence to reverse the call on the field". That's a load of crap. There have been plenty of calls that they show that need to be reversed, but until you get a seperate crew of 2 or 3 people in the booth who do nothing but review a call when it's challenged, you will continue to see this craziness happen. Why wouldn't you have people not associated with the officiating crew reveiwing these calls? If you did, you would find a number of calls overturned when it's obvious they are wrong. You would find calls that are legitimate standing as good calls. People would be satisfied for the most part. Except for the Z E B R A S. They will find they are making a call or two incorrectly in important situations. But you know what else you are doing? You are taking some responsibility from them. What does everyone think? jd
                                -11-25-2001, 07:37 PM
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