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  • Official Retraction

    Not that anyone else cares, but under the premise "to thine own self be true", I'd like to officially declare that yes, I AM an IDIOT, (having made the following statement in a previous post).

    "I don't know about the rest of you, (and I want to), but I don't really care if we beat Detroit. Big Whup.

    And we suck right now, so who really cares if we do or do not break TB's and Detroit's records. 1-15 or 0-16. What's the difference, really?"

    Well, the difference (s) is (are) as follows:

    We don't have to read any more about the "longest current losing streak, which basically prefaced every single article written with the word RAMS in it.

    We wouldn't have seen that locker room moment - pretty emotional.

    We wouldn't have ANY hope left at this point. (Not me anyway)

    We (I) wouldn't be cutting Butler ANY slack for trying to make something happen. (And yes, I WAS screaming at the time).

    I wouldn't be reconsidering my position on McMike. No way he doesn't make that TD catch. I guess Spags likes his veteran leadership, or something, and in Spags I DO trust.

    I'm even softewning a little on Shurmer, (especially now that I know he can yake a hit). However, PLEASE lose those (whatever those sideways, never-gain-and-ususally-lose-a-yard) flare passes are called - for f'n ever!

    My attitude - which was probably at it's 45 year low.

    In addition...

    I sure HOPE Bartell's hurt...and if so, let's pray the bye gets him well.

    I liked Wade's self correction in punt coverage, making damn sure he outran it the second time.

    Enjoyed watching Smith.

    Lenon saved a LONG gainer with a shoestring tackle, as did Butler. (Last year, they miss those tackles).

    Roughing call on Bulger was bogus, but he deserves it. (God knows he's earned it). Have mixed feelings about the slide, however.

    "Only the Rams..." My thoughts when the ref stopped Jackson from scoring.

    Don't love Karney as a receiving threat, but hey, whatever works. Shurmer DID spread it around today.

    (with apologies to U2), but in Fells and Bajema we're getting closer to finding what we've been looking for since letting Conwell leave.

    Cheers.







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    Re: Official Retraction

    Well done Vegas, never underestimate the power of winning. It does make a big difference.

    I really want to see this locker room video. I am hoping it shows up somewhere.

    I just watched one of the lions players after this loss. Poor guys, missed opportunities, dropped balls, somebody has to be a loser in every game. Both of these teams really needed this win. Sorry Lions, but I am happy that the Rams won.
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    • #3
      Re: Official Retraction

      Originally posted by VegasRam
      I sure HOPE Bartell's hurt...and if so, let's pray the bye gets him well.
      You mean you hope he's NOT hurt, right?

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      • #4
        Re: Official Retraction

        Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
        You mean you hope he's NOT hurt, right?
        Haha, I saw that too. You might want to edit that, Vegas. ;)

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          Re: Official Retraction

          Originally posted by shower beers View Post
          Haha, I saw that too. You might want to edit that, Vegas. ;)
          ...or maybe he DID mean "hope he's hurt" because his coverage was lousy in Detroit, always a step or two behind the receivers, enough that Detroit was definitely picking on him. ...and an injury would explain his poor play? With the bye, he can now get healthy.

          Just a guess.

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            Re: Official Retraction

            Remember, when you find yourself with doubt, you can always rearrange the letters of "GO RAMS" into orgasm.

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              Re: Official Retraction

              Originally posted by RAMFANRAIDERHATER View Post
              ...or maybe he DID mean "hope he's hurt" because his coverage was lousy in Detroit, always a step or two behind the receivers, enough that Detroit was definitely picking on him. ...and an injury would explain his poor play? With the bye, he can now get healthy.

              Just a guess.
              What he said. (Tried "Bingo!", but it was too short).;)

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              • #8
                Re: Official Retraction

                Detroit wideouts were thrown at 14 times and they only caught 2 balls, according to the Post-Dis. That's pretty good coverage in my book.
                The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                  Re: Official Retraction

                  Originally posted by HUbison View Post
                  Detroit wideouts were thrown at 14 times and they only caught 2 balls, according to the Post-Dis. That's pretty good coverage in my book.
                  That may well be, Hub, but they dropped quite a few as well.

                  Bartell was burned badly twice, and that's why I hope he's hurt, and not another bad signing.

                  Hey! - I'm on HIS side.;)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Official Retraction

                    Originally posted by VegasRam View Post
                    That may well be, Hub, but they dropped quite a few as well.

                    Bartell was burned badly twice, and that's why I hope he's hurt, and not another bad signing.

                    Hey! - I'm on HIS side.;)
                    Yes, there were a couple of burns to Bartell's scorecard; including the drop by Johnson that should have been a big gain. And according to several reporters (I believe Thomas and Miklasz have both mentioned it), Bartell has been playing hurt all year.
                    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                    • VegasRam
                      Just 'cuz I feel I have to write SOMETHING...
                      by VegasRam
                      I'm glad I'm not a (St. Louis) journalist. What do you write?

                      Here's one for you. In their last game(s), the 7 teams that have 1 or 0 wins have been outscored 262 - 23. Average score: 37-3. Wow. Adios, parity. I'm definitely betting over the rest of the year. (Edit - Raiders have 2 wins - my bad)

                      Knowing what is going to, (what HAS to), happen, (total rebuild), sure isn't making this any easier.

                      Spags was disappointed in our 4th quarter? Really. One quarter out of 28, when you're down 35-6 against the (arguably) best team in football. I know he has to say that, and can even think it, but c'mon, get real.

                      I can't help thinking that our injuries may just stem from a high level of effort and not lack of conditioning. (Do y'all think Tatupu and Paloamu aren't in shape?)

                      How would you like to be Minnesota today? Merry Christmas, Pittsburgh.

                      Now the "team has given up" rumors start. Maybe some of the players have, but I can't name any. And for those that do - see 'ya - which is the ONLY silver lining in this debacle. There ARE plenty of players who won't pack it in, and that's what Spags is looking for.

                      I wish I was knowledgeable enough to bash Shurmer, but I just can't put it all on him. The Rams are not so much untalented as just plain young and inexperienced. It's just kind of a "perfect storm" scenario.

                      Having said that, I'm definitely becoming somewhat cooler on Bulger. Just sayin'. (That means I don't want a response to that!);)And I wouldn't mind seeing Null for one whole (home) game. Why not?

                      You know you're snake bit when your long-snapper gets injured. Damn!

                      I don't know about the rest of you, (and I want to), but I don't really care if we beat Detroit. Big Whup.

                      And we suck right now, so who really cares if we do or do not break TB's and Detroit's records. 1-15 or 0-16. What's the difference, really?

                      And last but not least, this is not a negative post. Sometimes it just is what it is. (God, I hate that expression). I still love watching the Rams every week, and will continue to.

                      They're doing the right thing - even though results are still going to be an (excruciatingly) long time coming.

                      Cheers y'all - keep the faith.
                      -10-26-2009, 12:28 PM
                    • NJ Ramsfan1
                      My official announcement of semi-retirement
                      by NJ Ramsfan1
                      I am going into semi- retirement from watching Rams football. This is a difficult decision given my 35 year allegiance to this team since I was 4 years old, but one I feel I must make for my own sanity and health. There is simply no way I can stand to continue watching this kind of incompetance each Sunday. Before I do so, some thoughts about today. I will attempt to be as respectful and as measured in my comments as possible.

                      Today's effort resembled our opener vs. Seattle. We hung in for awhile, made some good defensive stops, then ended up shooting ourselves in the foot with penalties that negated 1st downs, turnovers and cluelessness. We've been shut out in 2 of our first 4 games. I've been to funerals that were more enjoyable than watching us try to move the football offensively. Just dreadful.

                      Boller showed today why he lost his starting job with Baltimore and why he'll never be anything more than a stop gap 2nd string guy at best.

                      The offensive line was atrocious again- 5 sacks allowed and numerous pressures. There's no excuse. It's not like we haven't invested money into this unit. This is either a complete lack of collective talent or a bunch of overpaid underachieving wastes- I really don't know which, at this point.

                      I'm very disappointed in the coaches right now. I believed and still have faith that Steve Spagnuolo is the guy for this job. But penalties, blown assignments and lack of execution is a reflection on the coaches- no iffs, ands or buts. And right now, it is reflecting very poorly on these guys, because we have a team that is spinning its wheels, shooting itself in the foot and executing poorly. The play calling is terrible (let's run draw plays to Jackson on 3rd and 8) but part of the reason is because we have absolutely no one other than Steven Jackson who is worth their weight offensively or a threat to do anything.

                      Josh Brown- a guy lauded a couple of years ago as one of the top two or three kickers in all of football and paid handsomely for the privilege- stinks. With the kind of salary he's drawing, he should be automatic on field goal attempts. He's been far from it recently. And for all of Donnie Jones impressive punts, can you angle kick or put the ball inside the 10 a couple of times when punting from mid-field instead of blasting it into the end zone for a touchback? How many times, Donnie?

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                      -10-04-2009, 07:06 PM
                    • general counsel
                      Its official, we are the worst team in the NFL
                      by general counsel
                      I dont see any way around it. I think we are the worst team in the nfl. I think we would have a legit shot to beat tampa, cleveland and kc. I watched detroit today, they are definitely better than us (stafford is a terrific young qb and calvin johnson is special). Oakland stinks, but they have a win. Cleveland has no wins, but they went to OT today. I didnt check the final stat line yet, but at one point in the fourth quarter we had more punts (7) than first downs (6).

                      Our offensive line is giving us no chance to compete offensively. Our defense isnt as bad as the stats look, but the countless penalties on both sides of the ball are truly one sign of a terrible team. There is truly no pulse on our offensive line, which makes it essentially impossible to throw the ball down the field, which makes it easier for teams to put 8 or 9 guys in the box to stop jackson. At least its clear today that Boller isnt the answer to anything. He was horrible. I dont mean to get on boller because he is a decent backup, but as i have been saying for two years about bulger, if you have no offensive line play, its impossible for a qb to be successful.

                      There are some on the board who have advanced the argument that the talent level isnt as bad as i keep saying it is. Does anyone still want to make that argument? I said at the start of the season that we had no depth at all and it sure looks like that was a correct statement. Sure, we are banged up. So are lots of teams. Our wide receiver situation is very very weak and we dont do enough to get the ball into averys hands.

                      Its going to be a very very long year. I think we are looking at 3-13 at best and most likely worse. I truly believe that if jackson gets hurt and cant play, we will not win a single game without him.

                      ramming speed to all

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                      -10-04-2009, 05:03 PM
                    • RamWraith
                      Butler/Karney Comments
                      by RamWraith
                      Press Conference:

                      S James Butler

                      FB Mike Karney

                      March 11, 2009

                      (Head Coach Steve Spagnuolo: Opening Remarks)

                      Im real excited about the two players that were going to talk about today. As always though, none of this gets done else we have great support and commitment at the top, so I want to thank ownership. This really doesnt happen unless we have expertise and hard-working people behind the scenes and thats where (General Manager) Billy (Devaney) and (Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Chief Operating Officer) Kevin (Demoff) come into play and they were terrific, so I thank them as well. You all know my relationship with (S) James (Butler) goes way back and its a special one and Im delighted that hes a part of us. His knowledge of the scheme, his experience as a starter and his character in the locker room, in my opinion, will go a long ways, so were excited about James and feel real fortunate that (FB) Mike (Karney) was available to us. Hes exactly what we were looking for in a fullback. It only took me five minutes in meeting him to realize he was exactly the kind of guy that we wanted. Hes a committed football player, classy and hes full of character and a team guy. Now, I have to thank Kim (Karneys wife) personally, for allowing Mike to come here and visit on basically his honeymoon. Mike and Kim were married on Friday and I just think that was terrific. So a special bonus, we get Kim in the family as well. Im going to let you talk with these two guys. Were really excited about both of them.



                      (James Butler: On how much having Head Coach Steve Spagnuolo here affected his decision in choosing the Rams)

                      I think it was the biggest part of the decision. Coach Spags gave me my first opportunity to be a starter in the league and he helped my career grow, so I felt that I wanted to go along with him with the Rams.



                      (On if this deal was close to happening for a while or was he talking to other teams)

                      I was talking to other teams, but in the back of mind, I was going to be here. We just had to work things out. It just took a little longer than expected, but everything worked out for the best and Im excited. Im excited about the path about to be taken with the Rams.



                      (On if he told his agent this was were he wanted to end up)

                      Oh definitely, from the beginning when Coach Spags gave me a call I knew that I wanted to be here. Its the best opportunity for me and Im excited.



                      (On how much lobbying CB Tye Hill, S Oshiomogho Atogwe and CB Ron Bartell did during this process)

                      I tell you what, I think Coach Spags had to text them or something to tell them to keep calling me because I got about 1,000 texts from Tye, O.J. and Ron saying, Are you coming? Are you coming?...
                      -03-11-2009, 03:59 PM
                    • Dr. Defense
                      Firing Spags is the wrong call
                      by Dr. Defense
                      Now before everyone jumps down my throat and says he needs to go for x,y,z reasons hear me out.

                      Does he have game management flaws? YES. Is he partially responsible for the horrific play calling? YES. Are there things that he needs to change about his coaching style? YES.

                      But here is what he DOESN'T need to change. The way he manages that locker room. I mean look at how we played yesterday. We could have very easily given up and just packed it in. Instead the team went out there and played their hearts for a guy that could possibly be coaching his last game. What does that say to you? How many games did you watch yesterday where there playoff implications, or through out this year for that matter ,where a player or team just gave up? This team has never stopped fighting for what has been labeled as a "dead man".

                      We as fans are impatient. We want change and we want it yesterday, anything else is unacceptable. To a certain extent is that understandable? YES. But what we have to remember is that Rome wasn't built in a day. It takes teams time to build a good solid team. Look at the dominant teams in the league right now. Whats the one thing that they have in common? Stability. Whats the one thing that we don't have on this team? Stability. There is constant turn over and change. How can any team be expected to win when ever 3 years a new HC comes in, and every year either the OC or DC gets fired. The Patriots dominate every year because they bought in long term and believed that Bill was the guy, he turned it around, brought in his guys, and makes his SYSTEM work. How can we ever hope to win a season when every 3 years someone new comes in and wipes out the team to fill it up with his guys?

                      We need to stop flinching and think things out. Let's buy into a long term plan for once. Yes Spags record is terrible. But you know what the record doesn't reflect? How this team is playing for him. When we had Linehan, the team never played this hard for him. No one can expect a good year when 1/4 of the team that is on the active roster was never in camp with us.

                      In conclusion I think the guy deserves one more year. Let him prove that with time he can do it. And just some food for thought, everyone that's screaming for him to get fired; where was this outrage last season? If it wasn't there and it's merely because of this year, shouldn't it be excused because of the injuries that ravaged this team? I mean think about it for a minute, he went for 1-15 to 7-9 the next season. Doesn't that say something or count for something? I don't care if you had Vince Limbardi, Bill Cohwer, and Bill Billicheck on our sideline this past year. We couldn't have won anything with a bunch of guys that are practice squad on another team.
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