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  • The missing pieces

    What pieces of this team are missing to make us a .500 or better

    Personally i think we are only missing 4 major pieces

    Quarter back- self explanatory, bulger is getting old and declining in accuracy by the year. We need a replacment.

    #1 receiver- Someone to throw to even when he is covered, someone that our new qb can trust to make "that" catch everytime

    Dominant DE- Chris long is developing and little has been great but is also the oldest member of our team. We need a guy like jared allen to strike fear in to the opposing qb's mind

    Shutdown corner- Bartell has been a disappointment in my mind, no he hasnt been bad but he isn't what I had hoped either we need a a really good shutdown corner. Someone to jump the routes and grab a few int's

    So what do you think we need to get to .500 or better.
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    new qb
    22.49%
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    #1 wr
    30.18%
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    new lg
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    new rg
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    dominant de
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    slb
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  • #2
    Re: The missing pieces

    Originally posted by 01d 0rd3r View Post
    What pieces of this team are missing to make us a .500 or better

    Personally i think we are only missing 4 major pieces

    Quarter back- self explanatory, bulger is getting old and declining in accuracy by the year. We need a replacment.

    #1 receiver- Someone to throw to even when he is covered, someone that our new qb can trust to make "that" catch everytime

    Dominant DE- Chris long is developing and little has been great but is also the oldest member of our team. We need a guy like jared allen to strike fear in to the opposing qb's mind

    Shutdown corner- Bartell has been a disappointment in my mind, no he hasnt been bad but he isn't what I had hoped either we need a a really good shutdown corner. Someone to jump the routes and grab a few int's

    So what do you think we need to get to .500 or better.
    We need a dominant defensive line in general, a massive DT to plug up the holes. Carriker hasn't been available to do that... We also need some youth at LB. I know Spags isn't into drafting high round LBs, and I agree with that. But Paris Lenon is obviously not the answer. I'm not sure whether or not Vobora is either. I don't see the games that often so I can't say if he's a genuine keeper or not.

    It certainly seems like the offensive line is gelling so if we can keep that in tact, we'd be better off. I agree with cornerback and obviously QB. I think QB in general will change the entire dynamic of this team...
    Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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    • #3
      Re: The missing pieces

      We need new OLBs. Vobora Lennon that is a joke. Get a low priced FA and a 4th or 5th round pick to develop and take a guy like vobora's spot.

      #1 WR has proved to be the clear cut number 1 need IMO. We desperately need the go to guy to make big plays at WR consistently

      QB we are rebuilding. We need that young key piece to rebuild around. It is a QB driven league and we need a new field general.

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      • #4
        Re: The missing pieces

        I think we need a true #1 WR and a dominating DE/DT to get up to .500. I don't care if we have Payton Manning in the backfield, if he doesn't have any quality wide receivers then he can't do anything. Even Peyton Manning can only do so much with poor receivers.

        I think that our defensive wohs would go away almost overnight if we could get 1) run stuffing defensive tackle 2) a pass rusher to get at the quarterback. I think I can speak for all of us when I say that we have love for Leonard, but he is getting old. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder that can come in and spell him, while learning the tricks. Then when Little is ready to leave, we have a quality replacement on hand that has learned from the best.

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        • #5
          Re: The missing pieces

          Where's DT on this list?

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          • #6
            Re: The missing pieces

            Originally posted by mikhal5569 View Post
            Where's DT on this list?
            Anything not on the list just put in your own post. Although DT should be on there i forgot about it.

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            • #7
              Re: The missing pieces

              I think #1 is a WR. While there is some talent on the team still developing, the key word there is developing. We need someone with dependable hands.

              #2 is a QB. I am not a Bulger basher which seems to the chic thing right now, but I think we need to bring in a legitimate top pick who can learn and develop behind Bulger so that he is ready when Bulger really is done. Kind of like how Aaron Rodgers developed behind Farve.

              #3 solid DE or CB next to either get pressure on the opposing QB, or get good coverage on the receivers

              #4 then a solid LB

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              • #8
                Re: The missing pieces

                I vote "All of the above"
                That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!!

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                • #9
                  Re: The missing pieces

                  new qb 25% awww c'mon another bash bulger thread
                  LA RAMMER

                  It's Jim not Chris
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8

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                  • #10
                    Re: The missing pieces

                    Originally posted by Truth View Post
                    I vote "All of the above"
                    Truth.....

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                    • #11
                      Re: The missing pieces

                      Let's see. We need defensive lineman and linebackers. That is what most of the folks are saying. Didn't we already try that? Did we not draft Carriker and Long as out top picks in recent years (2007/2008)? We also need wide outs. Hmmm, did we not draft Burton and Avery to fill the holes for Bruce and Holt?

                      What we need is an eye for real talent. Until that happens, we will go nowhere.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The missing pieces

                        QB - Bulger is the QB of the present, but not the future. He has had the crap beat out of him for 7 years now and it has taken its toll. His protection has gotten better, but his production has not. Yes, the lack of receiver separation and sure-hands has not helped, but I think the "regeneration" of the Rams has to include a new signal caller.

                        WR - Avery, Burton, Amendola, Robinson (next year)......that's not nearly as bad a corp as some would have you believe. Having said that, there's not a true #1 in that group at this point. Put up a true #1 that safeties have to keep an eye on at all time, and the whole corp instantly looks much better; not to mention the QB looks better, and the defenders in front of Jackson look fewer.

                        DE - It doesn't have to be some physical freak the size of a DT with the speed of LB. I'm just talking about some guy that can get to the QB. Not necessarily a stud run stopper, but a DE that a QB has to keep an eye on, think about, worry about........anything other than his reads and progressions. A guy who if on a 3-4 team would be an OLB. A situational guy for passing downs.

                        Not a "shutdown CB" - Much like Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and William Shatner's real hair......there is no such thing as a "shutdown" Corner. Take the greatest CB of all time, picture that guy in your head. Now take away his pass rush, and that Corner gets beat. A receiver acts, a corner reacts. The receiver knows exactly where the route is going. The corner has to guess. If the route breaks off, the receiver knows where he's cutting to. The corner has no idea. The longer the route goes on (ie. the longer it takes for the rush to get to the QB), the better the odds that the corner will guess wrong. No pass rush = no "shutdown" corner.
                        The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The missing pieces

                          Originally posted by Truth View Post
                          I vote "All of the above"

                          So did I. If I could, I would have voted for more, such as a DT, second RB, and a new TE to stretch the middle of the field.

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                          • #14
                            Re: The missing pieces

                            We need defense, and I only have eyes for Suh. This guy has high character, and will be an instant impact player in the NFL.

                            DT Ndamukong Suh

                            I do not really see a shutdown corner high in the draft. We could trade our #1 pick for one probably, but I bet it would be an oldster.

                            QB I am going to say it again. I do not think this team can afford a top-5 QB this draft year. I do not see the current owners pouring a dump-truck full of money into this team while it is on the block. Signing a top-5 QB takes $$$. Without the money, we end up with a hold-out at best.

                            WR Yeah, a dominant WR would go a long way to helping this team, but we need more to get to .500.

                            We need help on the O-line, but those youngsters take time to develop, and the vets are with teams that appreciate their value. GoRams.
                            A defeated look of consternation, dissappointment, or even pain. The name derives from the look one often gets when challenged by a large BM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The missing pieces

                              I was feeling pretty good about the Rams this whole week after sunday's win until I looked at this thread. There's still a lot to fix but I'd say the 2 most needed are a #1 WR and QB.

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                              • itsguud
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                                by itsguud
                                I was wondering what everyone ranks our needs as?

                                Personally I see it as:
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                                DT - I believe only Ryan is a starter caliber currently
                                WR - We don't have a true #1 YET* I believe in Gibson and Robinson
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                              • laram0
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                                by laram0
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                                Here are some of my thoughts not in any particular order.

                                1. O-Line- (not so sure) Would always accept more depth though.
                                2. D-Line- (need more depth and a good pass rushing DE)
                                3. WR- (current group is getting up there in age.)
                                4. Secondary?
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                                6. LB- ( if we lose Chillar who takes his place?)
                                7. Back-up QB- (definitely need an upgrade)
                                -02-06-2008, 11:24 AM
                              • RamsFanSam
                                RFS: My 2010 Draft Needs Analysis
                                by RamsFanSam
                                I have watched the Rams struggle this season as most of you have, and have studied various aspects of the team from one game to the next. This has led me to several conclusions including what positions we are likely to draft and in which round. Remember, this is merely speculation, and I may be wrong. Hopefully, some of you will use this opportunity to discuss this, and maybe, just maybe, we can have a real discussion without usage of the word "sucks" in any form.


                                Round 1: Wide Reciever. Scream all you want about cornerbacks and quarterbacks, our corners are NOT the worst in the league, and neither is our QB...not even our backups. Our wide reciever corps, however, is not only thin, but is lacking a true threat. Robinson is, or should I say was, our best WR, but he was never looked at as a true threat. We need a Henry Ellard, an Issac Bruce. Once we get this, our offense will improve by 50% before he ever hits the field.

                                Rd. 2: OLB. Right now, it's the "Son of Animal show". Laurinaitis is doing great at his position, especially for a rookie. Without Spoon, he is working basically by himself, with backups on each side. We need to find a big, fast, bruising linebacker to improve our front seven.

                                Rd. 3: Offensive Lineman. We need a guard/tackle. Chances are, Barron will be gone next year, Smith will be on the left, and ????? will be on the right. Bell is okay at LG, but OK isn't good enough. We need someone who can move like a ninja that eats a side of beef at every meal - raw - to shore up our OL and open holes for SJ.

                                Rd. 4: Running Back. We can't expect Seven to carry this team all season long and be ready to do it again next year unless he has someone helping him. If we had another RB, someone that did the things he can't do - avoid the defenders instead of running over them, sneak around a tackle instead of breaking them...then we could have a real tandem at RB, and our opponents would have a hard time covering both of them.

                                Rd. 5: Cornerback. We are thin there, but this is one position we can wait 'til later to fill. Why? Well, if our front seven are solid enough (and I think they could be next year), the secondary will be just that - secondary. Add to this a POTENT offense that scores points, which the three above additions can make - and the secondary becomes almost... tertiary. Of course, we'd be going after a vet CB in free agency, so this will help a lot.

                                Rds 6 & 7: BPA, because we have need for the best available. Argue that point...lol.

                                This won't fill all the holes, and no, it doesn't include a QB. I still think Bulger is good for at least one more year, and we also have this neat little thing call free agency we can use to fill spots.

                                I open the board to discussion. :helmet:
                                -10-26-2009, 06:35 PM
                              • Ramsfan1219
                                We need a qb!!!
                                by Ramsfan1219
                                I know Bulger and a new QB in the draft would be a lot of money, but I can't stand him anymore. Y not take the plunge and get a franchise QB? It's not like we can win anytime soon so who cares about the money? If we get a guy like Stafford, we would be set for years. Everyone keeps saying that we should get a tackle, but the tackle position is so deep this year in the draft that we can afford to get one in the 2nd round. We need a big name guy that can step in, we havn't had that in a while. Eather draft a stud QB or WR Crabtree, cuz we need some big pick up this time around, not some tackle. We should draft in this order:

                                1st: QB (Or if QB's r gone, then Crabtree)
                                2nd: O-Lineman
                                3rd: Linebacker
                                4th: CB
                                5th-7th: WR'S, ANYTHING DEFENSIVE, MAYBE ANOTHER CB AND MAYBE EVEN A DECENT FB. WE GOT RID OF HEDGECOCK AND HE WAS A 7TH ROUNDER, LOOK AT HIM NOW ONCE WE GOT RID OF HIM.

                                A QB for the future, an nice OL, a big linebacker, tall cb that can acually cover people (which isn't too hard to find unless ur stl), and a decent backup WR sounds just like what we need for our team! What do u guys think?:helmet:
                                -12-09-2008, 11:11 AM
                              • rNemesis
                                HOW CLOSE IS THIS TEAM TO COMPETING?(VERY LONG)Please provide feedback
                                by rNemesis
                                First of all let me just say that these last few years have been VERY frustrating and embarassing for me as a RAM FAN and I'm sure you guys are just as disappointed. I have watched my team go from the greatest show on turf to, as a washington post columnist said after the redskins loss, " the most miserable mass on grass". MY main question here is , " How far are the rams from being a decent competitive rock solid team? Its a long way to go; it doesnt happen overnight but it shouldnt take FOREVER either.


                                But I am not gonna sit here and talk about that all night. We know what has happened. We know what we've become. 13 straight losses dating back to last season. 3-13 in 2007 and 2-14 in 2008. 5 wins in the last 30 or so games? ( not sure exactly the stats) That is horrible.

                                Let's go back year by year as to how we finished record wise.
                                In the 1990's we were bad. But so were other teams which are now good today. But if you look at our 90's record to others, you will see that we were bad most of those years. Other teams had bad years too during the 90's but it was only really the lions, bengals, cardinals and saints. That should show you how bad of a team the Rams are. We never finished over 7 wins from 1990 up until 1999, which was our superbowl year. Which now tells me that the Rams have been bad, are now bad, and I hope we dont continue to be bad. But lately one has to believe that that is the penalty for our actions.

                                2000- 10-6 DECENT
                                2001- 14-2 ( excellent; we beat the pats that season but lost in the SB to the same :|)
                                2002- 7-9 Not bad
                                2003- 12-4 excellent
                                2004- 8-8 not bad; competitive
                                2005- I think we were 7-9 or 6-10 cant remember
                                2006- 8-8
                                2007- 3-13 horrible
                                2008- 2-14 lousy

                                I am not surprised at how we have fallen so badly. What I cant seem to understand is how fast we have fallen as such. How come we havent been able to stop the bleeding and bounce back like other teams have seemed to?

                                So tell me guys. How far off is this team from competing? Well, I look at the league and I have noticed that most of the other teams have playmakers in a lot of key positions. Why is that? Because they do a great job of DRAFTING PLAYERS THAT FIT INTO THEIR SCHEME WELL. We on the other hand have not done that lately. We have drafted players that have done well IN THEIR SCHEME and so it didnt matter to the previous regime ( Jay ZYgmunt ) if they fit or not the point was they wanted them so much that they drafted them regardless of their college scheme and success. In the era since Martz left, we have drafted the likes of busts ( or so they appear to be) like Tye Hill, Adam Carriker, Claude Wroten, Fakhir Brown, etc. The list goes on and on.

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