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  • Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

    BY JIM THOMAS
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    11/05/2009

    Bulger-bashers everywhere received more ammunition Sunday when the Rams quarterback went into a slide to avoid contact on a third-down scramble in Detroit.

    In what was a 10-2 game in the Rams' favor at the time, Marc Bulger's slide ended a 5-yard gain to the St. Louis 46. Trouble was, the Rams needed 6 yards for a first down with 9 1/2 minutes to go in the third quarter.

    On Wednesday, in his first comments about the controversial slide, Bulger offered no apologies or mea culpas for the play. "I was close (to a first down)," Bulger said. "There's been times this year I've gone in head first and it's hurt me for a couple weeks. So I thought I had it, but I didn't."

    And then, cognizant of the criticism the play has come under from fans and some members of the media, Bulger paused and added, "I'm really not worried about it."

    On one hand, Bulger did miss two games entirely and most of a third with a bruised rotator cuff in his throwing shoulder. In addition, Detroit safety Louis Delmas, who had temporarily knocked tight end Randy McMichael out of the game with an earlier big hit, had Bulger in his sights for another "kill shot."

    On the other hand, when contrasted with the fight-to-the-last-drop approach of running back Steven Jackson at Ford Field, the slide didn't come across well. Some have referred to it as Bulger's "Jim Everett moment," a reference to the play in which the former Los Angeles Rams quarterback hit the deck to avoid a sack in the 1989 NFC championship game.

    When asked about the slide earlier this week, coach Steve Spagnuolo didn't seem to have a problem with it.

    "Marc's usually pretty good at that," Spagnuolo said. "If any guy is going to make the first down on that ... he usually finds ways to get a first down."

    In his own words prior to this season, Bulger termed 2009 a make-or-break year for him. But as he and his teammates began a four-day break to conclude their bye week, it was a topic Bulger didn't want to discuss Wednesday.

    "During the season, I don't want to evaluate that," Bulger said. "We have to win games, I understand that. I think it'd be selfish to look at my own situation and put that on the team. We're all in this together, and we're just going to try to win as many as we can in the second half."

    With a rebuilt offensive line and a revolving door at wide receiver, Bulger's numbers are way down for the third consecutive season. He ranks in the bottom fourth of the NFL in almost all the major statistical passing categories except for interceptions (he's thrown only four).

    For his part, Spagnuolo remains unwavering in his public support of Bulger as his starting quarterback.

    "I've said this before, it's not one position on (that) side of the ball, it's everybody," Spagnuolo said. "When the running back runs real well, Steven (Jackson) will tell you it's because the offensive line did well. When the quarterback does well, he gets help. When the quarterback doesn't do well, that doesn't mean it's just his fault. There's 11 guys that are involved with it.

    "I think Marc has done exactly what we've needed. He's been a leader, manages the game, gets the ball to 39 (Jackson). There's pieces that he's working through, too. There's been a lot of guys we've thrown in there as wideouts because of injury and what-not. I think he's been a pro about everything."

    Even so, wouldn't Spagnuolo like to see more production out of the passing game?

    "Yeah, if you just look at stats," he said. "But we're moving the football. We're concentrating this bye week on the red zone — both sides of the ball. Both defensively and offensively. So if we can move it a little bit further in each one of those drives, we'll have a lot of points."

    Bulger said he's trying to play consistent, manage the game, and put the team in the right situations. Sometimes it looks as if he's trying to minimize mistakes in this scheme, more than has been the case in the past.

    "It's tough because there's been some games we've played from behind, and that's when you have to avoid mistakes," Bulger said.

    Actually, with the exception of the Detroit and Jacksonville games, the Rams have played from behind all season.

    "When you make one (mistake), it gets magnified because you're behind," Bulger said. "So if we can play maybe more with the lead in the second half (of the season), that lets us take more shots and be a little bit more risky. But it's tough to make any mistakes when you've got to play near-perfect to win right now."

    After spending most of his time here with veteran Pro Bowlers Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt at wide receiver, Bulger has had to make a radical adjustment to a younger, less experienced and less talented unit. In addition, injuries slowed Donnie Avery and ended Laurent Robinson's season just three games into '09.

    "It's a learning curve," Bulger said. "We're real young at receiver. We've had a revolving door, so just getting on the same page takes time. I think we're starting to get there."

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    Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

    About time this guy takes some critisism! He hasn't done anything since we gave him that huge contract. Keith null

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    • #3
      Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

      Yes, he's certainly never been criticized before. Everyone here just loves him to death.
      "I've been saving the Universe for over a thousand years. I figure it owes me just this once."

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        Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

        I could find a lot worse things to criticize him for than that slide. It was hard for me to judge whether he started sliding cowardly to avoid the hit or whether he honestly thought he already had the first down. If he thought he had the first down it's simply the smart thing to do - if he knew he didn't have it then he should have fought for every inch in that situation even with the risk of injury IMO.

        But like I said, who knows what his awareness of the first down marker was at that time, he's not used to scrambling and keeping half an eye on the markers on the sideline (like RB's and WR's are) so his awareness in that respect may not be very good so it's hard to judge afterwards.

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        • #5
          Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

          Funny how there was very little criticism when two guys named Bruce and Holt made it a common practice to dive for the turf before being hit after a reception. I guess it's all about who's being judged.

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          • #6
            Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

            It was the right thing to do, take the slide and dont get hurt. Does anyone really want boller in at qb right now?

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            • #7
              Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

              Geez, leave the guy alone. Like that slide is our biggest issue. Bulger is so punch drunk it is lucky he finds his way back to the huddle

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              • #8
                Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

                Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
                Funny how there was very little criticism when two guys named Bruce and Holt made it a common practice to dive for the turf before being hit after a reception. I guess it's all about who's being judged.
                I wouldn't say that. I heard a lot of complaints about exactly that a few years ago, including on this board. It was a fairly common discussion whether they should take the added risk of injury or not.

                Even if there were virtually no complaints as you say (an assertion I have to disagree with) it was probably because Bruce & Holt were constantly delivering the goods on the field and producing. Unlike, you know, a certain other player...

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                  Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

                  Originally posted by RamOfDenmark View Post
                  I wouldn't say that. I heard a lot of complaints about exactly that a few years ago, including on this board. It was a fairly common discussion whether they should take the added risk of injury or not.

                  Even if there were virtually no complaints as you say (an assertion I have to disagree with) it was probably because Bruce & Holt were constantly delivering the goods on the field and producing. Unlike, you know, a certain other player...
                  Well, there certainly weren't articles written about Bruce and Holt hitting the deck, and the degree of outrage isn't close to being comparable IMO.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

                    Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
                    Funny how there was very little criticism when two guys named Bruce and Holt made it a common practice to dive for the turf before being hit after a reception. I guess it's all about who's being judged.

                    Au contraire my friend, I seem to recall many posts whose authors were lamenting the lack of RACs on the behalf of Big Game and The Reverend.

                    I don't think Bulger's short sided slide compares to the infamous 'Phantom Sack', however!
                    RnD

                    GO RAMS!!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

                      Originally posted by ramsanddodgers View Post
                      Au contraire my friend, I seem to recall many posts whose authors were lamenting the lack of RACs on the behalf of Big Game and The Reverend.
                      People did comment on it, but I honestly don't recall it being that big of an issue. Certainly not comparable to the intensity we're seeing over one incident with Bulger.

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                        Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

                        BREAKING NEWS: Marc Bulger, star QB of the St. Louis Rams has not found the cure for every known disease in the world.

                        BY: Iama Douche
                        The Negative News
                        11/05/2009

                        Marc Bulger of the Rams it seems has not found the cure for ANY known disease in the world. He hasn't even come close to finding the cure for one of them. What a jerk. He sucks. Oh and further he slid one yard to early last Sunday in the game. Pathetic
                        Yeah Bulger doesn't get criticized enough lets bash him during the only positive outcome for us so far this weekend... GIVE IT A REST! Hell yeah Bulger enjoy the win buddy. Another one next week please!

                        GO RAMS!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

                          Heck, I thought he had the first down, and quarterbacks are supposed to slide if they're about to get hit. It's generally worse to risk losing the starting quarterback to injury than to come up short on one play.

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                            Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

                            It really isn't THAT big of a deal but considering how hard Jackson is fighting for every yard, it sort of reinforces the opinion that Bulger doesn't care all that much.

                            And I remember PLENTY of articles and complaints about Bulger and Holt falling down to avoid hits. Have no idea where that is coming from.

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                              Re: Marc Bulger takes criticism for slide in stride

                              Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
                              It really isn't THAT big of a deal but considering how hard Jackson is fighting for every yard, it sort of reinforces the opinion that Bulger doesn't care all that much.

                              And I remember PLENTY of articles and complaints about Bulger and Holt falling down to avoid hits. Have no idea where that is coming from.
                              Bulger thought he had the first down, so he slid. He made a misjudgement as to where the marker was. It's something players do all the time in the NFL. It's not a big deal.

                              PLENTY of articles? Articles published by media outlets like the one we're referencing here? I'd be interested in seeing them. Since there was PLENTY of them, they shouldn't be hard to find.

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                                They didn't. Then this spring St. Louis eschewed acquiring another veteran starter or selecting a quarterback with the second overall pick in April's draft.

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                                As Bulger said: "I think it was important for me to hear that. This team has changed so much over the last few years that a new coach could've come in and decided he didn't like me at all. I wouldn't say that it put me at ease. But it definitely allowed me to just go out and focus on my work."

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                                ST. LOUIS -- Quarterback Marc Bulger undoubtedly has gotten new St. Louis Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo's team-first message.

                                Bulger is coming off his two worst seasons as a starter in the NFL, but when asked about wanting to get back to his former Pro Bowl form, he said he hasn't thought about any individual goals.

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                                Bulger's passer rating was 70.3 in 2007 and 71.4 in 2008. His career passer rating before 2007 was 91.3.

                                Bulger has thrown more interceptions (28) than touchdown passes (22) over the past two seasons.

                                "You have to put it behind you, whether it's a player, a season or a game," Bulger said. "As a quarterback, you just can't let it bother you. Obviously, it has been two difficult years.

                                "With the team mentality right now, it would be selfish of myself to start thinking about how rough it was, or feel sorry for myself for how rough it has been. It's a clean slate. Coach told us in team meetings that we all have to act like we're rookies again, and I think everyone has taken that approach."

                                Bulger said he was unsure of his status when Spagnuolo, previously the defensive coordinator for the New York Giants, was hired in mid-January.

                                "Everything happened pretty quick this offseason," Bulger said. "New staff's hired, you obviously don't know, but they welcomed me in, as I welcomed them, and it's been a great relationship so far.

                                "I think once we start winning games it will even get stronger."

                                Bulger made a favorable first impression on Spagnuolo and offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur during the Rams' minicamp this weekend.

                                "He threw the ball well," Spagnuolo said of Bulger. "He's probably going to be upset at me because we had the red zone drill going into the wind instead of with the wind. But I tell him it's already on the script what direction we're going."

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                                Steve Spagnuolo didn't want to leave any doubt in Marc Bulger's mind. Soon after he was hired as the Rams' new head coach, Spagnuolo sought out Bulger and assured him that he was his quarterback.

                                Period. End of discussion.

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                                After a two-hour practice Thursday during organized team activities at Rams Park, Bulger acknowledged that Spagnuolo's words provided considerable relief.

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                                In 2003, Bulger's first full season as the starting quarterback, the Rams went 12-4 and won the NFC West title. They were 8-8 the next year, but made the postseason and reached the second round of the playoffs.

                                Over those two seasons, Bulger established himself as one of the league's most accurate QBs, connecting on 64.6 percent of his passes, piling up 7,809 yards and 43 touchdowns. He played in the Pro Bowl in '04. Life was good for the former West Virginia University standout.

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                                The Rams failed to post a winning record in the subsequent four seasons, crumbling to a 19-45 mark over that span. Even in 2006, when Bulger earned his second Pro Bowl invitation by registering career highs for yards (4,301) and TDs (24), the Rams mustered just an 8-8 finish.

                                As the team's fortunes dipped to their lowest point since arriving in St. Louis in 1995, going 3-13 in 2007 and then 2-14 last year, Bulger became a lightning rod for those seeking to vent over the club's downturn.

                                "It's tough at times," Bulger conceded. "But it comes with the position. Hopefully when we start winning again, it'll make it feel all that much better."

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                                Nevertheless, 2009 almost certainly is a make-or-break season for Bulger, 32. He knows that he has to shrug off the bruises and ratchet up his game, or the Rams likely will be looking for his successor in 2010.

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                              • r8rh8rmike
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                                by r8rh8rmike
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                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
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                                "Sure," Marc Bulger said, when asked if he'd like to be back with the Rams next season.

                                But that's as far as he cared to discuss that topic Friday, in his first comments since suffering a fractured shin bone in his left leg against Arizona.

                                "I don't even want to talk about that," Bulger said. "We're going to have plenty of time in the offseason to make those decisions around here. But we've got a quarter — or a third — of the season to go, and I don't want to be a distraction in any way that way."

                                The original prognosis was that Bulger would be sidelined for three to six weeks with the injury, which will not require surgery. With only six games to play, including Sunday's contest with Seattle at the Edward Jones Dome, there's no guarantee that Bulger will be healthy enough to play again in 2009. And that in turn prompted speculation that he may have taken his last snap at quarterback as a St. Louis Ram.
                                "There's been a lot of numbers thrown out there on how long it's going to be (before the injury heals)," Bulger said. "It's been five days, I think, since I've done it. Only time will tell how long it's going to be."

                                Bulger said it might be another week or so before he has a better idea if he'll be able to play in '09.

                                "I'm just going to keep rehabbing — getting bone stem (treatment) and ice," Bulger said. "There's really not much you can do for it. But I'd love to come back and play a couple games."

                                Bulger hobbled into the locker room on one crutch Friday afternoon to meet with reporters. He hasn't been out on the practice field all week because the Rams' medical staff wants him off his feet for a while.

                                "I think the doctor said the first 10 days is important to keep any weight off of it, since it is a weight-bearing bone, to help the healing process," Bulger said.

                                But Bulger made every meeting this week and will continue to do so throughout the rehab and healing process.

                                "I'll still be in all the meetings, doing whatever I can to help Kyle (Boller)," Bulger said. "But he's been there, done that, so it's more I think to help Keith (Null) along. Hopefully, we don't have to use (Null), but I'll try to get him a little bit more ready."

                                Bulger may have originally suffered the injury two Sundays ago against New Orleans. He remembers coming out of that game with some soreness in the left knee area, but no real swelling.

                                "It wasn't anything visible," Bulger said. "We checked it out. You have sore knees every week, and I think when you check knees that's all you're looking for is ligaments. I never even thought in a million years that it could possibly...
                                -11-28-2009, 12:43 PM
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