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    Its all about penetration. The Clifton Ryan LaJuan Ramsey combo leads all starting DT pairs in STF, STFY with a combined total of 23.These are the main penetrations stats. They are ahead of more acclaimed combos in the Williams in Minesota and Bunkley and Patterson in Phili. Its not showing up on the run defense Stats but these guys are playing verry well right now and you can also throw Douzable in the mix because he plays alot and would raise that total to 28. With pretty good tacklers in the secondary, how much better would we be if we had better OLB play?

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    Re: Spags system is working up front

    Hmm impressive. This is one of the reasons that I don't think we should draft Suh or McCoy in the draft. Our DT's are not bad at all, and they are young and will get better in time. Heck, they're already pretty good already, and they get better as each week goes by!

    That's why I would like to focus our first round pick on the offense, preferably on a QB. If our offense will actually move the ball consistently, it puts less pressure on the defense and gives them more rest, and if they get that, they will perform even better.

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      Re: Spags system is working up front

      I do see that its good we are making progress. However, I think we need a monster in the middle who will cause a double team. This opens up our ends for sacks.

      However, it is great to see we are making progress!

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        Re: Spags system is working up front

        Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
        I do see that its good we are making progress. However, I think we need a monster in the middle who will cause a double team. This opens up our ends for sacks.

        However, it is great to see we are making progress!
        I tend to disagree when people say we NEED a monster in the middle to draw double teams. I think Spags and his mentors disagree also and would rather have 4 good players and good depth behind them. Bunkley and Patterson in Philadelphia Cofield and Robbins in New york none of these guys are Albert Haynesworth. The new age 4-3 doesn't really need that monster DT that 3-4 defenses need. In fact most of those beast who where previously beasts in the 4-3 are now in the 3-4. Shaun Rogers, Kris Jenkins, Ryan Pickett, John Henderson, the list goes on. Then you have the guys who have been in the 3-4 there whole career taking up blocks. The 4-3 these days is all about penetration and pass rush. We don't really have the pass rush going right now, but when it comes to penetration they have been doing a good job. To me we need 4 good, maybe great players up front with some role players and decent depth to rotate behind them.

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          Re: Spags system is working up front

          Originally posted by 39thebeast View Post
          Its all about penetration. The Clifton Ryan LaJuan Ramsey combo leads all starting DT pairs in STF, STFY with a combined total of 23.These are the main penetrations stats. They are ahead of more acclaimed combos in the Williams in Minesota and Bunkley and Patterson in Phili. Its not showing up on the run defense Stats but these guys are playing verry well right now and you can also throw Douzable in the mix because he plays alot and would raise that total to 28. With pretty good tacklers in the secondary, how much better would we be if we had better OLB play?
          Interesting thread, Beast, but just what does STF and STFY stand for?

          WHAT SAY YE?

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            Re: Spags system is working up front

            Originally posted by RAMarkable View Post
            Interesting thread, Beast, but just what does STF and STFY stand for?

            WHAT SAY YE?
            I was just looking at stats on ESPN and I had no clue what it meant then I googled it and found

            STF= Tackles for loss
            STFY= yardage lost in tackle

            Kinda mixed things up before, but we still lead in STF the more important stat with 8 in comparison to the 5 of the Williams in Minesota
            Last edited by 39thebeast; -11-07-2009, 09:46 PM.

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