I feel like such a jerk for placing so much of the burden of the Rams struggles this season on Bulger. Against the Saints, he proved with a stronger supporting cast and a pretty solid o-line he can play great football. He even showed confidence to prove he can scramble; getting a key first down late in the game and stopping the clock. Maybe he felt he had to prove himself a little after Detroit. He did just that. I hope that the Rams don't make the mistake of drafting a QB before the 3rd round. There are obvious needs elsewhere on this team. Examples: D-line, Linebacker, RB depth, an extra Wideout... some hotter cheerleaders heheh ;)
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Stronger supporting cast? How many people did the Rams add before the game that made such a dramatic difference?
If you deem a quarterback to be a franchise quarterback, he isn't going to be there in the 3rd round unless he's a project that takes multiple years most likely. May as well just assume you've got that in Null.
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Originally posted by a.p.quinn View PostI feel like such a jerk for placing so much of the burden of the Rams struggles this season on Bulger. Against the Saints, he proved with a stronger supporting cast and a pretty solid o-line he can play great football. He even showed confidence to prove he can scramble; getting a key first down late in the game and stopping the clock. Maybe he felt he had to prove himself a little after Detroit. He did just that. I hope that the Rams don't make the mistake of drafting a QB before the 3rd round. There are obvious needs elsewhere on this team. Examples: D-line, Linebacker, RB depth, an extra Wideout... some hotter cheerleaders heheh ;)
Should we be happy for Bulger on the heels of yesterday's performance? Absolutely. Should we be proud of the Rams' effort? Without a doubt. But do not think for one second that one good effort yesterday erases the ills that plague Bulger and the Rams. New Orleans was playing without both starting cornerbacks- and while many of us hope yesterday's effort might be the start of some steady improvement (and maybe even a win or two shortly), I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams lost 33-10 next week with Bulger throwing for 130 yards.
Weekly improvement and steady productivity will be the only things that will appease fans who are hungry for a few more wins.
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Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View PostYou're certainly not a jerk for feeling this way, but I'd be quick to point out that fans are disenchanted with Bulger NOT for causing the Rams' struggles THIS season, but for adding to their futility over the past 3 1/2 SEASONS. He shares as much responsibility for this as any receiver or offensive lineman- probably even more so, since he was rewarded a few years ago with a handsome contract for the privilege of running the offense and has given little in return in the way of productivity.
Should we be happy for Bulger on the heels of yesterday's performance? Absolutely. Should we be proud of the Rams' effort? Without a doubt. But do not think for one second that one good effort yesterday erases the ills that plague Bulger and the Rams. New Orleans was playing without both starting cornerbacks- and while many of us hope yesterday's effort might be the start of some steady improvement (and maybe even a win or two shortly), I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams lost 33-10 next week with Bulger throwing for 130 yards.
Weekly improvement and steady productivity will be the only things that will appease fans who are hungry for a few more wins.sigpic
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Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View PostYou're certainly not a jerk for feeling this way, but I'd be quick to point out that fans are disenchanted with Bulger NOT for causing the Rams' struggles THIS season, but for adding to their futility over the past 3 1/2 SEASONS. He shares as much responsibility for this as any receiver or offensive lineman- probably even more so, since he was rewarded a few years ago with a handsome contract for the privilege of running the offense and has given little in return in the way of productivity.
Should we be happy for Bulger on the heels of yesterday's performance? Absolutely. Should we be proud of the Rams' effort? Without a doubt. But do not think for one second that one good effort yesterday erases the ills that plague Bulger and the Rams. New Orleans was playing without both starting cornerbacks- and while many of us hope yesterday's effort might be the start of some steady improvement (and maybe even a win or two shortly), I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams lost 33-10 next week with Bulger throwing for 130 yards.
Weekly improvement and steady productivity will be the only things that will appease fans who are hungry for a few more wins.
I looked at the rams stats since 2007 and in 07 and 08 marc bulger shined for the 2 games after the bye week. Last year it was the Redskins and then the Cowboys. So statiscally, Marc Bulger will probably win us the game (as in steven jackson will really win it but marc bulger will put the nail in the coffin), but like my grand-mother use to say..."You can put a suit, tie, cologne, and a hat on a piece of trash, but it'll still be the same piece of trash." (obviously it wasn't trash, the word she use rhymed with "hit" and started with a "s"
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Originally posted by theodus69 View PostDon't care how good he looks once a year.We need a new QB period!!!!!
So how do you propose we get a new qb? Just drafte a good college qb in the first round and throw him in? You really think a rookie qb can do any better than Bulger with this team? NO! We need Bulger for atleast a couple more years to shape a qb that we draft(not in the first round). IMO Bulger played so well do to the wide outs stepping up and the o-line playing great. Bulgers a good qb when he has help.
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Originally posted by RebelYell View PostStronger supporting cast? How many people did the Rams add before the game that made such a dramatic difference?
If you deem a quarterback to be a franchise quarterback, he isn't going to be there in the 3rd round unless he's a project that takes multiple years most likely. May as well just assume you've got that in Null.
GO RAMS!!!!!!!!!!sigpic :ram::helmet:
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i agree with those supporting bulger. lets not forget he is one of the few quarterbacks to ever throw for 4,000 yards in a season. To be honest I don't see any QB from this draft class as 'elite' and as mentioned in other posts, there is basically no consistency at WR. Bulger knows how to run the offense has good accuracy and arm strength. I would much rather see Bulger be the QB next year and the Rams draft elsewhere in the first round this year.
From 1997-199 the Rams spent their first round picks on OT, DE, and WR (Pace, Wistrom, Holt).
In the past 2 seasons they've drafted OT and DE. Perhaps drafting a WR would be the answer
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Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View PostYou're certainly not a jerk for feeling this way, but I'd be quick to point out that fans are disenchanted with Bulger NOT for causing the Rams' struggles THIS season, but for adding to their futility over the past 3 1/2 SEASONS. He shares as much responsibility for this as any receiver or offensive lineman- probably even more so, since he was rewarded a few years ago with a handsome contract for the privilege of running the offense and has given little in return in the way of productivity.
Should we be happy for Bulger on the heels of yesterday's performance? Absolutely. Should we be proud of the Rams' effort? Without a doubt. But do not think for one second that one good effort yesterday erases the ills that plague Bulger and the Rams. New Orleans was playing without both starting cornerbacks- and while many of us hope yesterday's effort might be the start of some steady improvement (and maybe even a win or two shortly), I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams lost 33-10 next week with Bulger throwing for 130 yards.
Weekly improvement and steady productivity will be the only things that will appease fans who are hungry for a few more wins.
Bulger had a career year in 06, he didnt just all of the sudden become terrible. There have been many other factors along the way. Bulger has had a part to do with the teams faults, but just replacing him will not help this team. Just for the record hardly ever does a qb drafted out of a major college succeed. Look at the successful young qb's out there today most were not fom bigtime programs. Flacco (Delaware), Matt Ryan (Boston College), Drew Brees (Purdue), Phillip Rivers ( NC State), Big Ben (Miami University OH), Eli manning (Ole Miss), so this is concerning for me when I hear people screaming for the Bradford's.Mccoy's and Tebows of the world. Remember those guys are surrounded by great great talent.
No rookie qb is gonna come in here and right this ship from day one. I say we keep Bulger find the right qb no matter where he is in the draft and pick him and ease him into the lineup. Maybe we get lucky and pick a guy in the later rounds that has success like Joe Montana and Tom Brady. I just dont want to see us waste our first pick on a qb in the first round and shelling out huge jack to him and then he sucks. I like Locker but is he worth a first round pick maybe 2nd overall again? I dont think so. If we add talent around Bulger he can suceed.Aim high Willis, Aim High!
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Originally posted by rammiser View PostI love it when Bulger succeeds in a game there is always some excuse as to why he succeeded. Your using the Saints starting corners as the reason he had success.
While it is unfair to come up with a concrete reason as to WHY Bulger was able to succeed, an excuse if you will, on the other hand, it cannot simply be dismissed either. The fact is, the saints we're playing without both starting corners, not to mention Darren Sharper, who was also out. It would be hard to argue that any starting quarterback in the league wouldn't put up better numbers than they normally would in this situation. Bulger can show us that this was not a fluke by performing similarly this Sunday, plain and simple. But right now, one cannot say with confidence one way or the other, if it was the battered secondary or if he is finally playing with confidence again. We'll just have to wait and see, and isn't that the fun part? ;)
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Bulger did very well, yes, we cannot lie about that. I for once didn't bash Bulger at the end of the game. The play of WR Brandon Gibson and Donnie Avery was better. The Saints were missing something like 2 or 3 Defensive Backs that start for them. And lost a highly respected CB ( Tracy Porter ) during the game. So looks may be deceiving, the stats showed great, but there are a few plays a Good Quarterback alway makes, they are as follows:
- The Red Zone interception. It was a bad decision, there was double coverage on the receiver and the pass that he threw up was a gift. A good QB should never make a throw like that, check it down, scout the rest of the field, throw it away, do something. Unfortunately we can't have that pass back, the game MAY have been different; but it's not.
- Don't remember what amount of time was on the game, or the Quarter... But on one certain play Bulger was scouting the field and then he seen Brandon Gibson Break free 25 - 30 yards downfield, Bulger stepped up into the pocket, had a great pocket, a Wide Open Gibson streaking down the rightside of the field for a Touchdown and overthrew him by about 7 or 8 yards. Another Touchdown that we could have potentially had. If your getting paid $60mil, you NEED to make that throw.
- Shortening this one up, the same thing happened on the left side of the field, Bulger threw it to far inside by about 7 or 8 yards on Gibson who could have made a play on the ball.
- End of the game, DO NOT CHECK DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD with 15 seconds left on the clock and ZERO timeouts. Absolutely unexcusable, I'm not sure what the heck happened in his head, but it was a bonehead play and one that you shouldn't make if you expect to be paid next year or if your a Valuable Qb in this league.
Bulger had a great game, again yes... But why couldn't he shred the Detroit passing Defense? The worst in the league, and he couldn't do anything against them.
All in all, Bulger had a decent game this time around, and I give him kudos, and am happy to see him do something good. But based on this game, it's not or shouldn't change our offseason. He's had the last 3 seasons to get something going, and it hasn't happened. We still need change, having Bulger back there reminds me too much of the bad times we went through, and not the future we have ahead, quite a sour taste in my mouth.
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by r8rh8rmike01.13.2010 1:40 pm
The future of Marc Bulger
By Roger Hensley
THE WATERCOOLER
QUESTION: There’s been much speculation on the future of Rams’ QB Marc Bulger: Will he retire? Be cut? Be traded? Or will he remain as the Rams QB for another season as a young QB is mentored. Do you believe Bulger will be under center for the Rams when they open next season?
JIM THOMAS
I still think it’s better than 50-50 that Bulger will not be back. And if he’s traded to a non-contending team he may pull a Jake Plummer and just retire. But in order to dispose of Bulger, the Rams need two quarterbacks — a veteran and a draft pick. How they fare on those two fronts over the next three months might have a lot to do with whether Bulger returns to St. Louis in 2010.
BERNIE MIKLASZ
I can’t say ‘Impossible’ but I doubt very much that we’ll see him QB the Rams in 2010. Bulger has taken a brutal beating on this job over the years and cannot stay healthy. The team is 5-31 with him as a starting quarterback over the last three seasons — though certainly there is plenty of blame to go around for that hideous record, and Bulger is only one piece of the team. But his play has declined, and his injury issues will only create more instability at a crucial position. Nothing personal, but at this point it is just best for Bulger and the Rams to move on.
BILL COATS
My guess is that he’ll be with the Rams next season, in some capacity. And that could well be as the No. 1 quarterback. What’s the alternative? There doesn’t appear to be a “franchise quarterback” available in the draft or free agency, and a trade would cost the Rams dearly as they try to rebuild in several areas. Neither Kyle Boller, who almost surely won’t be back anyway, nor rookie Keith Null showed that they are a better option than Bulger at this point.
JEFF GORDON
I believe Marc would be a better stopgap quarterback than almost any veteran the Rams could round up without sacrificing assets. But . . . given all that Marc and the team has been through the past three years, I can understand why the Rams would want to do something different just to do something different. One by one, veterans who have failed have moved on. Why could Marc be the one exception to that trend?-
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by rob6465I'm sorry but brees/manning or brady would not do much with the present Rams. Most Ram FANS or fans in general do not realize that in 2006 Bulger had a decent team and he was the 3rd best QB in the NFL. Bulger had better stats than Favre, palmer, brady, roth, eli, etc, etc. Bulger is only 32 yrs old, which is 1 year younger than Mcnabb and he has had a more than decent QB rating if you remove the last 2 years. This Rams team has been plagued with injuries and have lost many good players. Bulger has good precision just does not have enough time in the pocket.
I like Bulger and if he had a good line would be one of the good QB's in the league. PEOPLE, put all these QB's in the playoffs with the rams this year.....2 wins? 4? 16? This team has holes and no QB will fill those holes, not even jhoe montana. For a team this bad, look at Bulger's stats last 6 yrs and look at the stats of QB's his age with better teams.-
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I believe Bulger can still contribute and will at the very least be back next year (hopefully with a renegotiated contract). I think, with the right chips in place, he can lead us to a .500 record next year.
Bulger's faults is his lack of mobility and improvisation skills at this point in his career. He seems to lack the ability to be elusive in the pocket and goes down once penetration is achieved. He has never been mobile, but in recent years he just hasn't been able to make things happen in the passing game, especially on the run. Every time he's taken off Ive literally held my breathe and felt my palms get sweaty.
I think this season, his worse to date, has humbled him. Hopefully he can use this as fuel to fire himself up to be that player he once was. Mid 30 resurgences are very possible as we have seen with Favre, Warner, Moon, etc. He can turn it around if hope is restored in his mind and he believes we can make some noise, as we've seen, he has the tools.
Ive also come to this decision of keeping Bulger because of lack of depth and options. Keith Null is not ready from what we've seen his first year, Boller better not even be in camp, and who is Mike Reilly? I think Bulger is better than any guy that we can get in FA barring the Eagles releasing Mcnabb. Let Bulger remain as that vaunted stop gap option i keep hearing about and lets play ball. West Coast offenses demand accuracy. Bulger was the most accurate passer in football at one point. We focus on the run, once we get that second change of pace back to compliment steven jackson, we could run a three headed monster with the likes of Ogbonnaya as well.
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Hey guys,
Now i know its only Pre-season, and Ive only seen Bulger throw 4 passes. But I saw him get sacked 3 times. It was strange cause i saw some guys open one time he got sacked. But i also saw some major pressure. In my opinion I feel bulger is On his way down.
This is Where you my friends come into play?
What is your take on Bulger for the upcoming season? In my opinion I like him, he's a player who will let his play do the talking. I would like to see him succeed not fail. Although he seems very indecisive at times ever since Linecrap took over, the Damage Bulger took looked Irreprarable. Thoughts on him guys?-
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