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    While I am not convinced we've "turned the corner" (it will take several more performances like the past two weeks to convince me as such...) I am VERY hopeful we could be headed in the right direction- and whenever I'm feeling down or angry, I try to remember it could be even worse: we could be one of these teams:

    WORSE THAN THE RAMS:

    1. Oakland- They top the list. The Raiders are an unqualified disaster- from top to bottom. They have an owner once revered for his football acumen who is now regarded as a clueless meddler. They've run through coaches like people go thru socks. They've drafted poorly. They have a QB in whom they've invested a lot of time and money who completely stinks. Their coach is a guy many feel shouldn't have been handed the job and is now under scrutiny for his treatment of women and for decking an assistant coach. And it's been this way since their Super Bowl appearance vs. Tampa Bay. It won't get better anytime soon.

    2. Detroit- They've shown no capacity to make us believe they're making any real progress after a winless season. You could even make the argument that they're WORSE this year despite the 1 win; last year they had several near wins and were close. This year, Stafford has taken a beating and there's still a dearth of talent. Many hard times still lie ahead.

    3. Cleveland- Horrendous. Hard to believe they were the trendy pick only a year ago to make the playoffs. They read their own press clippings, underachieved, and succeeded in getting their team broken up. Derek Anderson showed he's a fluke, but what's worse is this musical QB act by Eric Mangini, who is Bill Belichick minus the winning. Morale is at an all-time low, their offense is dreadful and if you have any doubts as to how bad this team is, hopefully you watched last night's snoozefest vs. Baltimore.

    4. Kansas City- Boy, Matt Cassel certainly was the tonic this team needed, wasn't he? Fans are disenchanted following Tony Gonzalez' departure, the follies involving their idiot running back, Larry Johnson (since cut) and the lack of any real good football being played on either side of the ball. Todd Haley is yet another coordinator who benefitted from tremendous weapons that made him look good (Warner, Fitzgerald, Boldin, Breaston, etc.), became a "hot commodity" and has subsequently done nothing to show the Chiefs will be good anytime soon. And for good measure, they just suspended a reciever for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

    5. Tampa Bay- Despite two decent weeks in succession, I don't see Tampa as a team in good shape. Raheem Morris (God, I'm glad he didn't get the Rams job as a few on the forum hoped) hardly looks the part of a guy who's a leader of men. Stingy ownership, a revolving door at QB, and the loss of quality players like Warrick Dunn, Mike Alstott, John Lynch and Derrick Brooks make this a major rebuilding job.

    AND TWO TEAMS CLOSE GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION:

    6. Buffalo- Haven't been to the playoffs in what- 12 years? Haven't had a winning season in what- 8-9 years? Just fired their coach. Signed Terrell Owens- an ill-advised move if there ever was one. Franchise has been stagnant for years and this year is more of the same.

    7. Washington- The blueprint is the same every year: off-season big name signings, high hopes in the pre-season, then mediocre football. Dan Snyder is the George Steinbrenner of the 80's minus the winning. The Steve Spurrier and Jim Zorn hirings at head coach are two of the more terrible decisions in recent memory; ditto for getting rid of Marty Schottenheimer. Jason Campbell has shown me nothing in his tenure as QB
    and despite beating a fraudulent Denver squad last week, Washington hasn't shown it can get it right for the long term.


    On the flip side of this are the Rams. Their attitude is good. They've played two weeks in a row of good football. Their top two draft picks of 2009 appear to be solid picks. The defense is improved. Steven jackson is having an MVP type season. They have two guys- Billy DeVaney and Steve Spagnuolo- who I believe are the right guys to get this thing turned around. There have been some pleasant finds- Laurent Robinson, Daniel Fells, Craig Dahl, Brandon Gibson. All of this give me hope that we are ahead of these other teams and will in the very near future be much better- the record notwithstanding.

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    Re: 7 teams in worse shape than the Rams

    The Rams are 0-16 without one man. Thats a bad, bad football team.The Rams except Jackson looked at best marginal against the Lions and suprisingly like an NFL football team against the Saints. Some hope here, but not much. Maybe we win a few games next year, but cmon, thats still terrible.

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      Re: 7 teams in worse shape than the Rams

      I disagree about the Chiefs. Haley is a clown in my book too, but they completely gutted their roster about a year before we did. They have a lot of young talent and a strong fan base. They'll be back in a year or two.

      I don't think Detroit is that bad. Too early to tell on Stafford, at least their O can put up some points. I think they deserve to be on the list, but not at #2.

      Also, I'd put Washington up near the top, but perhaps that's only because I live in the metro DC area. Some sort of reverse-homerism or something. It's trendy to talk about how bad the Skins are, dissect all the bad moves Snyder has made, and generally just talk about how much you hate the team. I've had two Skins fans tell me they root against the Skins now because they want everybody to acknowledge they're the worst franchise in the NFL. It's very much a love/hate relationship.

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      • NJ Ramsfan1
        It Could be A WHOLE LOT worse
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        by NJ Ramsfan1
        I have had my patience tested for years dealing with the futility and disappointment of the Rams. And to lend me some much needed perspective, I sometimes look at other franchises and realize things could be much, much worse:

        1)Washington Redskins- is there a more dysfunctional team in all of sports? First, they've taken heat for their politically incorrect nickname. Secondly, they're led by a meddlesome owner, Daniel Snyder, who is George Steinbrenner without the winning. They've been through several coaches recently and have a QB for whom they traded a king's ransom who appears shot. Their record is terrible and they mailed it in weeks ago. They signed a talented receiver, DeSean Jackson, who wore out his welcome elsewhere and whose effort in Sunday's Giants game was an embarrassment (and to think some people actually wanted US to draft him awhile back). They actually had a playoff appearance three years ago. Seems like it's been 50 years.

        2)Oakland Raiders- The late Al Davis is probably vomiting in his casket- although truth be told, they started their downward spiral the last few years Davis was alive. Wasn't Reggie McKenzie supposed to clean up this mess?? They've signed numerous free agents and re-tooled the roster to no avail. The carousel of coaches, the Lane Kiffin embarrassment, the numerous blowout losses and clueless front office don't appear as if anything will change anytime in the near future.

        3)Jacksonville Jaguars- Given our representation in the dome the past few seasons, maybe we shouldn't throw stones, but is there another team in football who'd be missed less if they disappeared off the planet tomorrow? No excitement, no stars, a terrible record and a guy drafted as a franchise QB whose every 3rd throw is an interception. This team has no relevance whatsoever.

        Honorable mention:
        NY Jets- They've regressed every year since their AFC Title game appearances in Rex Ryan's first two years. And with Geno Smith at the helm, it's time to start over yet again. Still looking for their first SB win in the last 45 years.

        Cleveland Browns- Another team mired in a hopeless cycle of mediocrity. Never won a Super Bowl. Ugly uniforms. Haven't had a quality QB for any length of time since Bernie Kosar. And don't count on Johnny Football to be any type of savior. The bloom will be off the rose soon enough.

        Chicago Bears- Maybe their inclusion is a tad unfair since they haven't been hopelessly futile in years past, but this year's epic implosion and underachieving roster offers major concern for this franchise's future. A supposed QB guru, Marc Trestman, was brought in to get the most out of Jay Cutler, the highest paid bum in football. How's that working?

        And with Tampa and Carolina not lurking far behind the above listed group, maybe being a Rams fan isn't so bad. We have some talent. We have a decent defense. We have good specialists. We have a veteran...
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      • jjigga3000
        PUTTING THE SLEEPER TO BED (LONG READ) but good read
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        by jjigga3000
        PUTTING THE SLEEPER TO BED.
        By Bill Simmons
        Page 2
        www.espn.com

        After five weeks of the 2006 NFL season, we've only learned 10 things:

        1. If you're a QB, and you blow out a knee or smack your body up in a motorcycle accident, definitely take your time coming back. No rush. Seriously.

        2. The Bears have a chance to be historically good.

        3. The Raiders have a chance to be historically bad.

        4. Drew Bledsoe has added a degree of difficulty for blowing big games. In the old days, he'd just throw a back-breaking interception at the worst possible time. But since everyone knows that's coming now, he added a fascinating wrinkle: An improbable play to throw us off and make us forget he's about to blow the game (like last week's fourth-and-18 bomb to Glenn), followed by the back-breaking interception that becomes doubly back-breaking because of the preceding events.

        WEEK 5 REDUX
        Last week's picks found me on the wrong side of three killer gambling moments:

        1. With the Pats giving 10 and headed for a push, Maroney gets a game-clinching first down inside Miami's 20, only nobody tackles him, so he keeps going and it looks like he's going to score ... NO! He gets pushed out at the 4-yard line. That's followed by three Brady kneels.

        2. The Browns are getting 8.5 points and trailing by 11. Fourth down, 15 seconds left. Instead of taking one more crack at the end zone, Romeo Crennel sends out the FG team for the cover. This actually happened.

        3. The killer of killers: Getting 6.5 points, the Lions are trailing by two at midfield and it's fourth-and-10 with less than 90 seconds to play. Kitna scrambles, two guys pull him down ... and as he's falling, he flips it right to a Vikings lineman, who scrambles untouched for a clinching TD and the cover. I hate gambling.

        5. You're not winning a Super Bowl with Brett Favre or Steve McNair. They're both washed up. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's true.

        6. San Diego has the most talent in the AFC. Unfortunately, the Chargers also have an uptight coach who runs his team about as loosely as Ted Knight handled his daughters in "Too Close For Comfort."

        (Note: Sadly, that show was canceled 21 years ago, making the reference Bermanian for everyone younger than 30. Normally I avoid doing this, but I have two defenses: First, it's the perfect comparison. You really had to see the show. And second, Ted Knight was a comedic genius. So I'm standing by the reference. Now if I only had a clip of me and Glenn Frey standing outside the Hotel California. Back to the column.)

        7. If you're getting points with the Lions on the road and covering in the final minute, and the Lions have the ball, and they're driving, and the only way you could ever lose is if Jon Kitna fumbles a touchdown, throws an interception...
        -10-13-2006, 11:26 AM
      • AvengerRam_old
        A + B does not necessarily = C
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        by AvengerRam_old
        I've seen this mantra repeated over and over by sportswriters:

        (A) The Rams are rebuilding; and

        (B) They are relying on a lot of young, untested, players; therefore

        (C) The Rams will continue to struggle for the next year or two.

        This analysis proves to me (not that it is a surprise) that sportswriters are not very knowledgeable in the fields of history or probability.

        Premise (A) is true. Premise (B) is likewise true. But that does not mean that conclusion (C) must necessarily follow. If it did, you would not have teams like last year's Dolphins or Falcons.

        So how do you predict how a team like the Rams will do? It is certainly difficult. I, for one, am not ready to make my prediction for 2009.

        For sportswriters, the easiest thing to do is to simply presume that the Rams will continue to struggle. However, to characterize that as a foregone conclusion is to ignore history and probability.
        -05-12-2009, 09:39 AM
      • eldfan
        Bottom of the Barrel: Evaluating 2009's Worst NFL Franchises
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        by eldfan
        by Ryan Cook Ryan CookCorrespondent


        Correspondent Written on January 27, 2010

        Two weeks before another season is due for a close, many franchises are welcoming the cold winter offseason with open arms. Bottom of the food chain teams notably struggled in 2009 with tough losses, poor play, and bad coaching,

        With the NFL Draft only months away, fans eagerly await to see if their team can make a smart pick come April.

        Last season we saw many of the same contenders compete for the worst record in football, and in 2009 we saw much of the same story. Here's a complete evaluation of the worst teams in football.



        1. St. Louis Rams

        From the "Greatest Show on Turf" to the laughing stock of the NFL, Rams fans had the right to buy out the brown paper bag aisle in their local Costco this season.

        Posting a pathetic 1-15 season, head coach Steve Spagnualo was left scratching his head as to why his young and promising team struggled to get off the mark. With constant quarterback changes and sloppy wide receiver play, the Rams season went from a possibility to an eye sore in the matter of a month.

        Problems That are Re-Occurring:

        In St. Louis, it's simple, the quarterback position is their biggest problem.

        Kyle Boller stepped in for seven games this season, but struggled to find his range. After throwing six interceptions and only three touchdown passes, it was time for a change.

        Spagnuolo brought in rookie quarterback Keith Null, and, although his playing time was limited, he managed to post some decent stats at times.

        With the only real talent still sitting at the running back position, you can't help but feel for Steven Jackson. He is still pounding it away and still scoring, and without Jackson the Rams may have become the second 0-16 team in NFL history.

        The Rams have tried replacing just about every position both on field and off field on the roster, but nothing has worked. With a lousy fan base that is resembling the New Jersey Nets at the moment, the Rams may be stuck in a rut for years to come.

        Why They Will Improve:

        The draft hasn't been kind to St. Louis, but it's done them some favors. With a quarterback or wide receiver needed, Colt McCoy or Dez Bryant may be the target for St. Louis. We'll have to wait and see though.



        2. Detroit Lions

        For once I can actually post something positive about Detroit. Okay, so they were the second worst team in football in 2009, but they still showed some rather promising signs at times during games.

        With wins over Washington and Cleveland during the season, the Lions quarterback play improved as time went on. Unlike the Rams, the Lions don't have too many talent issues. They've got the youth, and they've...
        -02-04-2010, 02:37 PM
      • Watchdog
        Oh No! Think I upset the Redskin Extremists with this one.
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        by Watchdog
        DOH!!
        Oh, well - It's good to get some healthy bantering going before a game. I think they're mad at me ... Awesome!

        Posted Dec 20th 2006 8:33PM by The Watchdog
        Filed under: Rams, NFC West, NFL Gossip

        Redskins Orgainzation Makes the Rams troubles Look Small

        An in depth look at the Rams organization this year reveals really nothing more than a new coaching staff trying to implement a new system and re-create an identity for a football team in renovation mode. Sure there are frustrating things about the team's progress, as well as even more frustration regarding the lack of progress on defensive issues.

        But when taking a look at what's happening in Washington with the Redskins, it makes you want to exhale hard in sheer relief that the Rams aren't that kind of mess.and even more assistants to the assistants. It's freaking mind boggling.

        This Sunday when the Redskins roll into the Edward Jones Dome, it would be reasonable to expect a group of very frustrated and hungry football players.

        The Redskins are the New York Yankees of the NFL in how they try to buy their way to success with high-priced coaches and players. But they're in a league of their own when it comes to mis-managing their team and mis-evaluating their talent.

        Washington Post:

        When you look at some of the decisions being made by the Washington Redskins, you are led to wonder whether Joe Gibbs can ever fix all this, and, with all due respect to the Hall of Fame coach, how much of the dysfunction is his fault.

        Any routine examination of the Redskins now reveals a team that constantly (and unsuccessfully) tries to remake itself, that repeatedly misevaluates personnel, that throws away high draft picks, that has too many coaches (and possibly the wrong ones).

        They can spend whatever energy they want at Redskins Park trying to shoot the messenger, but the fact is the Redskins are no better off than the Arizona Cardinals or the Cleveland Browns, the NFL's perennial bottom feeders. No amount of money spent on veteran players and high-profile coaches has helped the Redskins do any better than 4-8.

        All of a sudden I feel a whole lot better about the situation in St. Louis. While the Rams record is no better, there seems to be far less head (or other) scratching going on and surely alot less Prozac going around.

        Compared to the high-profile mess going on in our nation's capital - the Rams woes are small time.

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        1. I don't know whats worse in this blog... The picture of Spurrier, the miss on the actual record in DC (5-9 by the way)or... The selective memory that conveniently lost the fact that the Redskins lost in...
        -12-21-2006, 12:04 PM
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