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    Rams' O-line doing just fine
    BY JIM THOMAS
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    11/22/2009

    Not a lot has gone right for the Rams in 2009, no scoop there. The won-loss record doesn't lie — and the Rams are 1-8 entering Sunday's home game with the Arizona Cardinals.

    But the No. 1 goal of general manager Billy Devaney entering last offseason was to fix the offensive line. Nine games into the season, things are trending that way.

    "I know we've made strides," coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "You can always get better everywhere. We're trying to get better at every position. But you do see a little bit of gelling there, guys working together. And that's even without Richie (Incognito) out there, and we know Richie's a key part of it. So there's more confidence there. I like the way it's developed. I think we've just got to keep working at that."

    Incognito will miss his third consecutive game Sunday because of a foot injury. But the line keeps perking along. Sacks are down and rushing yards are up. Against the Cardinals, running back Steven Jackson will be going for his fourth consecutive 100-yard rushing game, something he has never done since entering the NFL in 2004.

    "I think from the third game on, we've continued to improve," offensive line coach Steve Loney said. "I've been pleased with our progress."

    Granted, there's plenty of room for improvement. But with seven games to play, the basic numbers are good. The Rams are on pace to rush for 1,902 yards this season and currently are averaging 4.6 yards per carry.

    If those numbers hold up, it will be the team's best rushing performance since the 2001 NFC-championship squad rushed for 2,027 yards, at 4.9 yards per carry.

    Obviously, it's not all the line. Newcomer Mike Karney is the team's best blocking fullback since James "The Hammer" Hodgins played here from 1999-2002. The blocking of the tight ends has been solid. But run blocking begins and ends with up front.

    "It's definitely coming together," Jackson said. "Those guys are doing a great job of gelling. We actually have a (pass) protection meeting with them. When I say 'we,' I'm talking about the running backs. We spend extra time with those guys in walkthroughs. So we're all on the same page. Those guys are really communicating and keeping guys off Marc (Bulger). We're going in the right direction."

    Granted, the Rams aren't nearly the high-wire act in the passing game that they've been in the past. Even so, the team is on pace to allow 32 sacks this season — a modest two per game — which would be the lowest sack total since the Rams moved to St. Louis in 1995.

    "They're not going unnoticed in this locker room, but I think maybe a little bit outside of here," Bulger said. "They're having a pretty good season."

    It hasn't been all wine and roses, particularly early in the season:

    — Right guard Incognito was benched for one series and part of another in the third quarter against Seattle after incurring his second personal foul of opening day.

    — Left tackle Alex Barron was pulled for the rest of the game after a costly illegal formation penalty in the second quarter of Game 4 at San Francisco.

    — Bulger missed most of the Sept. 27 Green Bay game, and then the next two games entirely, with a bruised rotator cuff after Packers linebacker Aaron Kampman got around right tackle Adam Goldberg for a sack.

    Injuries?

    — No. 2 overall draft pick Jason Smith missed 2½ games and had reserve status in three other contests following a knee injury in the Rams' Week 2 loss at Washington.

    — Incognito remains sidelined with what technically is a Lisfranc — or mid-foot — sprain. He appears to be at least a week or two away from returning.

    — Bell (mild concussion) and Brown (knee) missed parts of a game, although they've started all nine contests to date.

    But in backups Mark Setterstrom, John Greco and especially Goldberg, the Rams have developed depth to the point that there isn't a noticeable dropoff when a change is made.

    "Adam Goldberg, his value to this organization, whether that be as a starter or a guy coming off the bench, I think is invaluable," Loney said. "His productivity this year has been very good."

    Goldberg basically is the team's "sixth man" on the offensive line. But because of the injuries to Smith and Incognito, he has started seven games at either right tackle or right guard, and played well.

    "Offensive lines are all about continuity in calls, continuity with each other, and working together," Loney said. "And the more that they are together, then I think their productivity will continue to be good."
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    Re: Rams' O-line doing just fine

    the rams o line has been playing well until today. goldberg gets a 15 yard pentaly making the rams unable to score late in the 4 quater. setterstorm allows dockett to level buldger on the final drive, and that gets followed up by our 5 linmen unable to block 3 cardnials for more than 2 seconds on the last play. although the line made some good holes for jackson today

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      Re: Rams' O-line doing just fine

      Originally posted by jackson3909 View Post
      the rams o line has been playing well until today. goldberg gets a 15 yard pentaly making the rams unable to score late in the 4 quater. setterstorm allows dockett to level buldger on the final drive, and that gets followed up by our 5 linmen unable to block 3 cardnials for more than 2 seconds on the last play. although the line made some good holes for jackson today
      Good holes for Jackson?

      He had almost no holes today. He was trying to make things happen without anything. Worst performance from our o-line this season.

      Bell gave no push up front. It was obvious today.

      Barron got completely abused on that last play. Horrible.

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        Re: Rams' O-line doing just fine

        I agree. O Line wasn't doing much in run blocking. At least from what I could see. It still needs help.
        The Rams... Where dreams go to die.

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          Re: Rams' O-line doing just fine

          Jason Smith just keeps getting better IMO. He hasn't given up a sack in a while and he has been our best run blocker. Our only big run came of RT as Smith sealed his guy. Barron up to his usual stuff getting beat by no names, who the hell is Will Davis?

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          • #6
            Re: Rams' O-line doing just fine

            Originally posted by supachump View Post
            I agree. O Line wasn't doing much in run blocking. At least from what I could see. It still needs help.
            I'm sure you realize the Cardinals were routinely playing 9 men in the box so I won't ask why you think the run blocking was lacking.

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            • #7
              Re: Rams' O-line doing just fine

              Originally posted by RebelYell View Post
              I'm sure you realize the Cardinals were routinely playing 9 men in the box so I won't ask why you think the run blocking was lacking.
              If you saw the game, you could see our o-line was not dominating at the line of scrimmage as they usually do. It could of been because of Darnell Dockett. The extra guys in the box helped contain Jackson, but Jackson could never even find any holes in the first place.

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              • #8
                Re: Rams' O-line doing just fine

                Originally posted by RockinRam View Post
                If you saw the game, you could see our o-line was not dominating at the line of scrimmage as they usually do. It could of been because of Darnell Dockett. The extra guys in the box helped contain Jackson, but Jackson could never even find any holes in the first place.
                As I said, 9 men in the box. Jackson ran for over 100 yards against a defense focused on stopping him. But hey, teams routinely produce gaping holes on a regular basis when there are more defenders than blockers.

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                  During the 2010 season, Rams running back Steven Jackson spoke often about how important it was for the offensive line in front of him to have continuity.
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                • RamWraith
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                  Rams guard Richie Incognito must become less conspicuous to NFL officials. He has repeatedly hurt his team by earning untimely personal foul penalties.

                  “It’s just a growing and maturation process,” Incognito said Thursday afternoon at Rams Park, after the team’s last OTA session of the week. “You just have to know when to choke it back. Some of the stuff is real close. Some of the stuff, the whistle blew . . . I’m playing hard, sometimes I don’t hear the whistle.

                  “A lot of the stuff is stupid, ticky-tack on my end that I need to cut out of my game to be a better football player.”

                  But the key to the Rams ’08 offensive success isn’t calming Incognito down. The key will be to get the whole offensive line to go as hard as he goes.

                  This unit has to protect Marc Bulger, open holes for Steven Jackson and provide the foundation for an offensive revival.

                  As you will recall (while wincing), the injury-riddled line collapsed last season during the 3-13 fiasco. The ever-changing cast of blockers became overwhelmed as the losses mounted.


                  “It was a challenge for everybody to stay upbeat with the way the injuries happened to this team,” said Mark Setterstrom, who suffered a season-ending knee injury. “It’s part of the game, I guess. Just unfortunate events last year.”

                  Now Setterstrom, Incognito, Orlando Pace, Brett Romberg and Adam Goldberg are coming back from various injuries.

                  Free agent Jacob Bell and rookies John Greco and Roy Schuening are trying to reinforce the battered unit. New offensive line coach Steve Loney and new offensive coordinator Al Saunders are fostering a new atmosphere.

                  “It’s going to be great competition going into camp,” Setterstrom said. “Everybody is going to be fighting for a job.”

                  There is much to accomplish between now and Week One of the regular season. Right tackle Alex Barron needs to crank it up. He has the tools to become a great NFL lineman, but he hasn’t played at a consistently high level since coming into the league.

                  Bell must become a tempo-setter at left guard. Setterstrom, a physical run blocker at guard, must learn to play center to give the offensive line added depth.

                  “It’s a learning experience,” Setterstrom said. “Minicamp was just kind of an adjustment period. Now with the OTAs, I feel like I’m settling down and getting into it. I’m getting some extra snaps after practice. Since minicamp, the snaps have been a lot better. We haven’t had any on the ground in a week or two.”

                  Greco, a tackle, and Schuening, a guard, must translate collegiate intensity to the pro level. “They have a lot of work to do,” Incognito said. “They never had this volume of offense and they never played against people this big and fast.”

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