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    You can talk about Bulger all you want, to let the Arizona Cardinals run all over the place yesterday was what beat the Rams. The Rams DT's are non-existent even with a healthy Carriker. The OLB play was abysmal yesterday too. The Rams need to contact Suh's people as soon as they can.

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    Re: Arizona? Running the ball? What the.....

    You fail to link that the running game stopped working so amazingly well as soon as Warner left the game. Before that, the Rams were forced into dime coverage since the Cardinals were running out 5 WRs in the spread offense. That is going to lead to running lanes and mismatches. Once the Cardinals moved back to a traditional offense with Leinart, the running game fell apart also.


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      They still shouldn't have been able to run the ball like they did. Are you saying we aren't weak at DT?


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        Re: Arizona? Running the ball? What the.....

        we definitely are weak at DT, thats clearly an area requiring an upgrade.

        The thing is, it sort of makes Chris Long's play all the more impressive, since teams are keying off on him a fair bit what with him being the only real decent player on the line.

        Little is good at pass rushing and all but his play as a run defender is poor


        • #5
          Re: Arizona? Running the ball? What the.....

          The Rams run defense has been improved for the most part this year, but yesterday was clearly a bad peformance in that area. I'm sure that Spags is going to be very tempted to take one of the two "stud" DTs (Suh, G.McCoy) in the first round.


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            Re: Arizona? Running the ball? What the.....

            Of course our DTs are weak. Just look at the turnover at the position since training camp opened. How do you expect it to not be weak? Plus the Rams have two outside linebackers who are barely backup quality. Lenin will be out of the NFL most likely next season and Vbora is a backup only. He's not starting quality. Think maybe that has an impact also?

            The Rams have lost Carriker, Gary Gibson & Hollis Thomas. That's 3 out of the 4 they planned on going with this season at one point.


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              Why To Watch

              For the second straight week, QB Kurt Warner faces a former team and the younger protégé who supplanted him. Warner and Marc Bulger combined to air it out for more than 600 yards in Week 1 losses, largely because neither the Cardinals nor the Rams came close to establishing a running attack.

              Both teams also looked sloppy on special teams. The Rams allowed a punt return for a TD, while the Cardinals allowed both a punt and kickoff return for TD, the latter coming after an offsides penalty. Both teams also had their character and preparation questioned after lackluster Week 1 efforts.

              Will Mike Martz stick to his game plan and pound the ball with Steven Jackson? Can the Cardinals offensive line open any holes for J.J. Arrington and give Kurt Warner enough time to throw? Expect an aerial duel between two former teammates in this one.

              When the Rams have the ball

              Rushing: The Cardinals' run defense started strong against the Giants, but wore down as the game went on. Arizona's defenders were guilty of several missed tackles in the second half, many of them on big, bruising running back Brandon Jacobs.

              The Rams have a bruising back of their own in Steven Jackson, and a great change of pace back in Marshall Faulk. Jackson is not the type of back Martz is used to, and with his best results probably coming in the fourth quarter, Martz's patience will be tested. The Rams will try to run the ball behind LOT Orlando Pace, though RDE Bertrand Berry and linebackers Karlos Dansby and James Darling were very active in Week 1.

              The Rams are a finesse offensive line, with marginal talent. It is unlikely they can get the same kind of push that the Giants were able to get last week. The Cardinals have good athletes on defense and should be able to best the Rams with movement.

              Passing: Nobody is better at finding man-to-man matchups and exploiting them than Mike Martz . Cardinals' DC Antrel Rolle got picked on a little by the Giants, and Bulger will look to find Torry Holt matched up with him in single coverage. Rolle is a fast playmaker, but has struggled with his pedal since the preseason, and precise route runners like Holt and WR Isaac Bruce will be able to exploit that.

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            • Nick
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              At first, the Cardinals offense looks conventional.

              There's one running back in the backfield, a tight end at the line and three receivers spread out wide. Then quarterback Kurt Warner starts his cadence, and chaos begins.

              The running back, tight end and even the receivers shift one-by-one, motioning to Warner's every word.

              Then silence.

              All of a sudden, there's no running back in the backfield, no hint of a tight end at the line, and five wide receivers ready to create havoc on a defense primed to surrender a mismatch.

              That's the 2005 Cardinals offense that debuted Saturday in a preseason 13-11 victory over the Dallas Cowboys before 36,787 at Sun Devil Stadium: part bedlam, part brilliant.

              At least, the Cardinals hope it's brilliant.

              Their offense started slow and simplified in the first series. The most significant motion came from the entire unit trotting off the field after a three-and-out.

              Then brilliance happened.

              In the offense's fourth possession of the game, Warner completed 5 of 6 attempts for 84 yards, including a 31-yard touchdown to Larry Fitzgerald. When the first-team units jogged to the sidelines for good, the Cardinals led 10-0.

              "We're just trying to get completions and try and (throw) the ball down the field," Warner said. "We're going to continue to get better. It's not bad for the first day and a new offense."

              And for at least one series, the Cardinals showcased what their offense is capable of.

              "It's more open," said receiver Anquan Boldin, who missed Saturday's game due to a broken nose. "We're moving guys around. We're moving on every play, putting guys into position to get the ball, create mismatches, similar to what we did my rookie year. Last year, we were just bland. Wherever we lined up at, that's where we were going from."

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              Some say that winning is a habit. Obviously it's one that we lack, with only three wins in the past two seasons, so that's not looking too good for us. Despite our trend of losing, let's look on the bright side: we probably are going to win a game in 2010, regardless of how awful or outmatched we may look on paper. Some team is going to overlook the lowly Rams, the matchups may be just right, perhaps the cosmos will align in the perfect manner, or maybe we will actually just dominate the field from start to finish, but in all likelihood (knock on wood!) we will win a game in 2010.

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              PHOENIX -- A look three things to watch when the St. Louis Rams play the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday at 4:25 p.m. ET at University of Phoenix Stadium:

              1. Staying underneath: Three weeks into the season, the Rams defense is allowing opposing quarterbacks to complete 81.6 percent of their passes. Without question, that's an eye-popping number for a defense that has been expected to carry the load in the early part of the season. While that number will certainly drop (it almost has to), the Rams actually don't mind it so much, especially when playing dynamic offenses like Pittsburgh or this week's opponent, Arizona.

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              1. Dynamic Duo

              In St. Louis, the fans know all about what a dynamic receiving duo looks like. Rams fans have been blessed with the ability to watch Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt do their thing for years.

              In Arizona, the Cardinals are becoming accustomed to a similar experience with talented young wide outs Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin asserting themselves as top-tier players.

              The Cardinals are 10th in the league in passing, mainly because of their dynamic duo at receiver. Both are fast, but they have just about all of the tools to be star receivers for years to come.

              “(They are) big and physical,” Rams coach Scott Linehan said. “They’ve got more tools than that, but it’s really a tough match up when you go up against big, physical guys like that. The challenge is to be able to contain them. I really mean that. They have the ability to make big plays. They’ve got a great quarterback who can get them the ball, who knows how to get them the ball. It’s going to be a pretty big challenge for our secondary to slow those guys down a little bit.”

              In two games this season, Boldin and Fitzgerald have combined for 23 catches for 309 yards and a touchdown. The Cardinals passing game was in top form in the opener against San Francisco but struggled with quarterback Kurt Warner in the second game against Seattle.

              The Cardinals also have other big targets in tight end Adam Bergen and third receiver Bryant Johnson, but they rely mainly on the combination of Boldin and Fitzgerald.

              Expect the Rams to come with some creative coverages to attempt to limit the big plays. St. Louis gave up some big gainers in the passing game against San Francisco last week and though it’s almost impossible to stop Fitzgerald and Boldin, they have to at least limit the long plays that result in points.

              “They’re complete package guys,” Linehan said. “That makes it for a tough match-up. We’ve got to be creative in how we also help those guys at times, too. Not always having to cover them one-on-one. . You’re going to have to get it done.”

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