Isn't it amazing how a statement can be made that is meant to be one thing and completely gets blown out of proportion.
I've frequented one of the Cardinals fan sites since Warner became a Cardinal. I prefer the fan sites because in general there is a lot less troll activity. So, I was very straightforward from the beginning and have restated my position many times that I migrated to their board because of Warner. I wasn't trying to pass myself off as a Cardinals fan or being unrealistic in my support of Warner.
Not much has changed since his days as a Ram. He still has a crappy, undisciplined line, a new OC/HC just about every year, a young QB to compete with for playing time and a mediocre(at best) franchise backing him up. All of his turnovers are magnified(justified in some cases, some not) and there is a very loud, vocal minority that blame him for the Cardinals' woes.
Like I said, nothing new there and no one on either side of the fence is going to change their mind about him any time soon. But, amongst all of this banter, someone felt compelled to talk down to me for being a fan of Warner. Now, I'll debate and argue his merits on the field 'til the cows come home. I enjoy it and it's just fun for me to analyze all the numbers, situations and circumstances surrounding the arguements about him and football in general. But talking down to me because I root for Warner? From a Cardinals fan?
I didn't want to get into a "you suck" "no, you suck" situation but I was insulted and felt compelled to point out that regardless of what Warner's doing now, a Cardinals fan hasn't the right to talk down to me for being a fan when they don't have anything comparable in terms of success. I stated it pretty much in those terms. I didn't say the franchise sucks or that it's fans suck or anything like that. At best, their team's success is on equal ground with other franchises and in general, they're looking up at everyone else.
I tried to point out that if a Patriots fan wants to talk smack and brag about having much more success than the Cardinals, that there's not really much to say to it and that it seems irrational to try and argue that the Cards(or many ohter teams) have as much bragging rights as the Patriots.
This example, of course, flew right over everyone's head and many were all hurt that I was calling them 2nd class fans(which I wasn't) and upset that I was telling them what they could or couldn't say, etc. I'm not flaunting Warner's past success on anyone either. His awards were a long time ago and don't represent what he's doing now. BUT, he's still got them under his belt. He's still a 2 time MVP, etc. He has reached and earned success that the Cardinals and it's players haven't.
It just seems ridiculous to me to think that you can talk smack to someone when you haven't anything to brag about. Ever....
-12-22-2007, 02:31 PM
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