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    During the pregame show for Monday night football Steve Young had some interesting things to say about Quarterbacks that I thought was relevant to us, seeing as how the Rams are in need of getting a QB. Whether you like Bulger or not, yes we need a new franchise QB. To start right away or learn behind a veteran.

    A lot of people get very excited about very mobile QB's ala Vick, Young during his day, McNabb and so on. Many folks here on the forum have been screaming for having a mobile QB to make up for issues with the o-line. But the one thing that brought it all around for me was Steve's comment when they were talking about Vince Young.

    His comment was that as mobile as scrambling QBs are, they only really become great QBs when they learn how to be a good pocket passer. The way the game works and is played you can be an athletic prodigy and make plays, keep plays alive, and create opportunities with your feet. But if you are unable to work from the pocket as well, you will not achieve your full potential. He makes the point that if you look at all the seriously successful QBs, including the scrambling types, they only really become outstanding once they also became good pocket passers. He said he went through it himself. One of the examples he mentions is McNabb, that early in his career he was a primarily mobile type of QB with poor pocket skills. As his pocket skills developed he became a much more efficient and winning QB. And that is his advice to Vince Young, yes it is great to be able to use your feet when things break down, and it does give you options, but you have to be good in the pocket to be ultimately successful.

    So when we start looking for a new QB, yes having someone who is very athletic and mobile, gives us some desirable options, but we need someone who is balanced and able to work from the pocket as well.

    I am not all that up on any of the prime candidates coming into the draft. I think we need to use the 1st pick on something other than QB, maybe even trading down a little and getting some talent for other positions, like DT and RB. I think that a number of the QBs are going to be available in later rounds.

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    Re: Interesting observation about QBs from Steve Young

    well you're certainly right, i don't think anyone was screaming to draft a mobile qb that can't play in the pocket, but getting a pocket guy without the ability to scramble or keep plays alive would probably be a mistake. people are going to be attacking our backfield as long as jackson is around, so both areas need to be considered.

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      Re: Interesting observation about QBs from Steve Young

      i watched the highlights of the Texans vs Titans game, and noticed a lot of instances where Vince Young scrambled for the first down after finding nothing open. Now he has also been doing a lot of designed option runs with Chris Johnson as the pitch man, but it also seems that Young has been told that if the pocket breaks down or if his first read is covered he should scramble for yardage instead of finding space in the backfield to make the pass.

      This is working at the moment, but teams are going to start putting a spy on him soon and its going to stop working. So he is going to have to learn how to be a proper pocket QB. At the moment the scrambling and short passes are working, getting the Titans some wins. But its not going to turn them into a Superbowl contender
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