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    The fans and media have been talking about it for days and weeks, if not months, but Marc Bulger is not ready to make a decision on his future, writes Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

    Bulger's season may be over with the latest of injuries -- fractured left shin bone -- and the Rams sorely need a thorough rebuild, perhaps from the ground up, suggesting Bulger's last pass in a Rams uniform have have been thrown.

    St. Louis is in the race for the No. 1 pick in the draft and will have an opportunity to draft their next franchise quarterback next April.

    -ESPN.com

    Mel Kiper Jr.'s Big Board

    The Rams may have their pick of QBs Sam Bradford (No. 5), Jimy Clausen (No. 6), Jake Locker (No. 8), and Colt McCoy (No. 25)

    Rebuilding with line play could net St. Louis DT Ndamukong Suh (No. 1) or OT Russell Okung (No. 7)

    The only position the Rams may feel comfortable with avoiding on draft day may be running back

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    Interesting about the RB situation. DGR!!!! lol
    Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

  • #2
    Re: Bulger's Cloudy Future

    Tony Dungy said he would jump on Tim Tebow before any other QB coming
    out. I dont know about you, but i think Dungy is right and it seems he always
    is.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by BEER View Post
      Tony Dungy said he would jump on Tim Tebow before any other QB coming
      out. I dont know about you, but i think Dungy is right and it seems he always
      is.
      It all comes down to the combine. I know a lot of guys on here despise his throwing techniques. But I think he's got solid stats. It's only like this is an Indy offense. It's west coast. I think Tebow can manage that.

      I won't pick him round one though...

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by Varg6 View Post
        The fans and media have been talking about it for days and weeks, if not months, but Marc Bulger is not ready to make a decision on his future, writes Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

        Bulger's season may be over with the latest of injuries -- fractured left shin bone -- and the Rams sorely need a thorough rebuild, perhaps from the ground up, suggesting Bulger's last pass in a Rams uniform have have been thrown.

        St. Louis is in the race for the No. 1 pick in the draft and will have an opportunity to draft their next franchise quarterback next April.

        -ESPN.com

        Mel Kiper Jr.'s Big Board

        The Rams may have their pick of QBs Sam Bradford (No. 5), Jimy Clausen (No. 6), Jake Locker (No. 8), and Colt McCoy (No. 25)

        Rebuilding with line play could net St. Louis DT Ndamukong Suh (No. 1) or OT Russell Okung (No. 7)

        The only position the Rams may feel comfortable with avoiding on draft day may be running back

        -----

        Interesting about the RB situation. DGR!!!! lol
        Yeah, interesting thoughts by Mel. Maybe because there aren't many great RBs coming out. I'm liking Clausen as a possible pick at QB for Rams.
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        • #5
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          Cardinals fan here....but I like to read other team's forums to keep a pulse on fan opinions of their own teams around the league.

          My question is, what the heck happend to Bulger?

          At one point he was a top 5-6 fantasy QB in the league (~ 2006?). Concussions? Gun shy? Loss of confidence? Supporting cast around him?

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by BEER View Post
            Tony Dungy said he would jump on Tim Tebow before any other QB coming
            out. I dont know about you, but i think Dungy is right and it seems he always
            is.
            Was Dungy right when he drafted Shaun King in the second round of the '99 draft? One advantage of being a commentator over a coach is you can basically say whatever you want because there aren't consequences to your hypothetical choices.

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            • #7
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              Bulger's future has been cloudy for a very long time.

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              • #8
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                At least I know one thing for sure. Do not draft, ever, QB from Tulane!

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                  Wow, after seeing today's OL potential and performance (at home Vs. Sawks), it would probably "behoove" our Rams offense coaches and Bulger himself to wait till the last game ... to see if there is anything left to salvage[?].

                  No, wait till next season, for MB to heal back to 'normal', for a more decent OL. I was horrified seeing how the opponent's defense pounced on Boller today. How can anyone expect Bulger to do anything different like this!?! This is a bleak outcome at best.

                  Mercy, mercy me! :o

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                  • #10
                    Re: Bulger's Cloudy Future

                    Originally posted by Nick View Post
                    Was Dungy right when he drafted Shaun King in the second round of the '99 draft? One advantage of being a commentator over a coach is you can basically say whatever you want because there aren't consequences to your hypothetical choices.
                    Soooooooooooooo, you disagree with Dungy? I did say he "Seems to be right all the time" And I think he is.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by RealRam View Post
                      Wow, after seeing today's OL potential and performance (at home Vs. Sawks), it would probably "behoove" our Rams offense coaches and Bulger himself to wait till the last game ... to see if there is anything left to salvage[?].

                      No, wait till next season, for MB to heal back to 'normal', for a more decent OL. I was horrified seeing how the opponent's defense pounced on Boller today. How can anyone expect Bulger to do anything different like this!?! This is a bleak outcome at best.

                      Mercy, mercy me! :o
                      I agree that was pretty ugly out there today,altough 3 starters were out so there is some reason for it,I say Bulger stays another year unless someone can convince me one of these so called superstars in the making, coming from college will do any better.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Bulger's Cloudy Future

                        Originally posted by RealRam View Post
                        Wow, after seeing today's OL potential and performance (at home Vs. Sawks), it would probably "behoove" our Rams offense coaches and Bulger himself to wait till the last game ... to see if there is anything left to salvage[?].

                        No, wait till next season, for MB to heal back to 'normal', for a more decent OL. I was horrified seeing how the opponent's defense pounced on Boller today. How can anyone expect Bulger to do anything different like this!?! This is a bleak outcome at best.

                        Mercy, mercy me! :o
                        Alex Barron again showed us he's inconsistent.

                        Our stud in the center, Jason Brown got knocked out early in the game due to a sprain.

                        Incognito has been out because of a foot injury.

                        We are sorely missing Jason Smith at right tackle. Without him, it is painfully obvious the lack of push we have on the right side.

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                          Originally posted by BEER View Post
                          Soooooooooooooo, you disagree with Dungy?
                          Yes, I disagree with Dungy. I would not make Tebow the first quarterback off the board. I think he has serious work to do on his fundamentals, and I question whether his upside as an NFL quarterback is worth it, especially using the early pick you'd have to use to make him the first QB off the board.

                          Since I've answered your question, maybe you could answer mine - was Dungy right when he spent a second round pick on Shaun King in 1999?

                          That's really the only young QB he's pulled the trigger on with an early round pick as I can recall, and it didn't work out well. Most of the time, Dungy made by with veterans. When he went to Indy, they obviously already had a QB in place.

                          My point being, I don't see much to make me believe Dungy is some QB guru who knows a franchise QB when he sees one. As a head coach, he didn't have much experience drafting them, and the one guy that I can recall that he spent a Day One pick on didn't pan out. Thus, I don't find the "But Tony Dungy likes Tebow" argument very convincing.

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                          • #14
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                            Bulger is probably the best option until we sign someone in the future or train up a rookie. I don't know who, that is an improvement, that will sign with our team after watching our line perform. At least Bulger is already under contract, so he can't refuse to go back out there once he's healthy enough...

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                            • #15
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                              I can't see much merit in throwing a young QB into the supporting cast we'd likely be able to provide him next year. Those kinds of situations rarely work out well for player or team and can kill coaches.

                              I think there's a lot of merit in the Rams continuing to build their roster with a view to taking a signal-caller in 2011.

                              In such a scenario, Devaney takes another o-lineman high (A priority if Barron departs), a pass-catcher and then builds depth of the D. QB gets addressed in FA or later rounds and Spagnuolo is given a remit to try and win with defence and the running game.

                              Any potential QB then comes into a much stronger position and the Rams have helped themselves by adding 1-2 impact players on offence and greater defensive depth.

                              Ideally of course you'd like a top prospect at QB in 2010 and the FO to shell out millions on high-priced FA's to help him out but with the cap going and most marquee guys tied up, I think that's a long shot.

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                              • r8rh8rmike
                                The Watercooler: Who Are The Rams' Top Draft Options At QB?
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                10.22.2009 12:27 pm
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                                QUESTION: If the St. Louis Rams were to take a quarterback in the first round of next year’s draft, which current college quarterback would you suggest they select?

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                                Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen has moved up as an NFL prospect. Clausen has always had the natural talent, but he’s grown at Notre Dame, and is more physically imposing now. Looks like a tough kid, too. He is certainly used to pressure and it doesn’t get to him. The best is yet to come for Clausen. The red flags are out on Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford; it’s not only the shoulder injuries, but the questions of whether he can throw while under pressure, because he doesn’t encounter much of a pass rush at OU. Cincinnati’s Tony Pike could be the steal of the draft; he’s likely to be downgraded and drop down the board because of multiple injuries to his left wrist. But he’s a player. Not sure if Colt McCoy (Texas) has the frame, but he seems like a good fit for a West Coast offense. Jevan Snead (Ole Miss) has been touted by scouts and draftniks, but I haven’t seen enough (yet) to get excited by his NFL future. Again, that could change. All of this could.

                                VAHE GREGORIAN
                                With his bum shoulder this season, Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford may be losing stock for the 2010 draft or may even be considering waiting another year to come out. But if he’s available, the Rams would be wise to snap him up. Although he could stand to be more mobile, especially considering the Rams line, last year’s Heisman Trophy winner has all the tools to build a team around: accuracy (67.9 percent of his passes last season), height (6-4) and a leadership presence that makes players want to play better just for him, OU coach Bob Stoops says. Maybe some will see the shoulder injury and apparent aggravation of it last week against Texas as something chronic or signs he is brittle, but sometimes quarterbacks just get hit and hurt. There’s no reason to think it’s anything more with Bradford.

                                JEFF...
                                -10-22-2009, 05:20 PM
                              • NJ Ramsfan1
                                If we Draft a Quarterback...
                                by NJ Ramsfan1
                                ...And I think it's fairly obvious we must, who do we take? I gotta' tell ya, I have reservations about all of the top three guys on most peoples' draft board- Bradford, McCoy and Claussen.

                                With Bradford, of course, it's his shoulder. He's injured himself twice this season and this doesn't bode well for the rest of his senior year and who knows down the road. McCoy, quite frankly hasn't played particularly well thus far- and most analysts would agree. As for Claussen, he's probably playing as well as anyone in the country, but he is green and doesn't have much of a track record.

                                All of these guys could become good pros, but are they right for the Rams? If so, which one would you want?
                                -10-17-2009, 07:54 PM
                              • eldfan
                                Considering Clausen for the Rams next QB
                                by eldfan
                                Considering Clausen for the Rams next QB
                                by VanRam on Nov 24, 2009 3:58 PM CST in 2010 NFL Draft 35 comments

                                Ok, with Bulger's tibia fracture barely days old and the (likely) end of his career with the St. Louis Rams, it's time to start talking QB of the future. Not that we haven't been talking about that since the last draft, but such chatter earned a new lease on life with Bulger's injury.

                                Carneros got it started yesterday with this post, and I'm going to feed the fire some more today. First, a quick review of the Rams QB options moving forward. Boil it down to the essence, and the Rams have three options at QB for 2010: 1) sign a free agent (personally, I like Jason Campbell if they go this route), 2) draft a QB or 3) keep one of the in-house options, Bulger (if he can return) or Boller. Note that 2 and 3 are not mutually exclusive.

                                And now, I submit for your consideration Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.

                                With Sam Bradford on the mend, Clausen is racing to the top of draft boards, at least among QBs. I think he'll be the first QB taken in the draft. I guess we'll have to see how much fan damage he incurred on a punch to the face this weekend. Will the Rams take him? Should the Rams take him?

                                Why Clausen?

                                Let's start with the stats, more specifically, the stats that can tell us something about success at the next level. According to the Lewin Career Forecast, the two most important things to look at when trying to gauge NFL success are a QBs career starts and completion percentage.

                                Clausen's a junior this year. He took over starting duties early in his freshman year, true freshman year, and ended up starting in nine games, and started every game in two seasons since then. For his college career, he has a 62.2 percent completion rate, a stunning 67.3 percent this season.

                                His TD to INT ratio of 23-4 speaks to his accuracy as a QB.

                                One thing I like about him is his ability to find receivers and create plays where others cannot. That's something the Rams have really been missing. Yes, St. Louis lacks the established talent at WR, but after watching this season of west coast offense move forward in fits and starts, it would be wise to have a QB that could find receivers or even go through the reads.

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                              • Nick
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                                - Sat in on a conference call with ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. this morning and took away some notes of interest. First, thanks to Kiper for doing it. He sat patiently for two hours taking a ton of questions and gave everyone a good, well thought out answer.

                                - Anyway, some news and notes from that conversation as well as just some general thoughts as we head toward next week. A little more than a week from today, the combine festivities begin in Indianapolis.

                                - News broke today that Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen will not be participating in combine drills because of lingering issues from the toe surgery he has in early January. Clausen will be in attendance and he will do the medical stuff and the team interviews (generally the most important part of the weekend anyway). He will throw at his pro day, scheduled for late March.

                                - Speaking of Clausen, he is gaining steam in the eyes of Kiper. Kiper has Clausen going fourth overall to Washington in his latest mock draft and when he talked about Clausen, he passionately defended him on today's conference call. Kiper's colleague Todd McShay doesn't even have a first round grade on Clausen, perhaps one of the sources of Kiper's ire. Nonetheless, Kiper says he has talked to everyone surrounding Clausen and they all speak highly of his skills and especially his leadership ability.

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                                Bradford met Peyton, Eli and Archie Manning while working as a counselor at the Manning Passing Academy in Louisiana over the summer.

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