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    Bulger not ready to discuss future
    BY JIM THOMAS
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    11/28/2009

    "Sure," Marc Bulger said, when asked if he'd like to be back with the Rams next season.

    But that's as far as he cared to discuss that topic Friday, in his first comments since suffering a fractured shin bone in his left leg against Arizona.

    "I don't even want to talk about that," Bulger said. "We're going to have plenty of time in the offseason to make those decisions around here. But we've got a quarter — or a third — of the season to go, and I don't want to be a distraction in any way that way."

    The original prognosis was that Bulger would be sidelined for three to six weeks with the injury, which will not require surgery. With only six games to play, including Sunday's contest with Seattle at the Edward Jones Dome, there's no guarantee that Bulger will be healthy enough to play again in 2009. And that in turn prompted speculation that he may have taken his last snap at quarterback as a St. Louis Ram.
    "There's been a lot of numbers thrown out there on how long it's going to be (before the injury heals)," Bulger said. "It's been five days, I think, since I've done it. Only time will tell how long it's going to be."

    Bulger said it might be another week or so before he has a better idea if he'll be able to play in '09.

    "I'm just going to keep rehabbing — getting bone stem (treatment) and ice," Bulger said. "There's really not much you can do for it. But I'd love to come back and play a couple games."

    Bulger hobbled into the locker room on one crutch Friday afternoon to meet with reporters. He hasn't been out on the practice field all week because the Rams' medical staff wants him off his feet for a while.

    "I think the doctor said the first 10 days is important to keep any weight off of it, since it is a weight-bearing bone, to help the healing process," Bulger said.

    But Bulger made every meeting this week and will continue to do so throughout the rehab and healing process.

    "I'll still be in all the meetings, doing whatever I can to help Kyle (Boller)," Bulger said. "But he's been there, done that, so it's more I think to help Keith (Null) along. Hopefully, we don't have to use (Null), but I'll try to get him a little bit more ready."

    Bulger may have originally suffered the injury two Sundays ago against New Orleans. He remembers coming out of that game with some soreness in the left knee area, but no real swelling.

    "It wasn't anything visible," Bulger said. "We checked it out. You have sore knees every week, and I think when you check knees that's all you're looking for is ligaments. I never even thought in a million years that it could possibly be a bone."

    Even if the initial injury did occur against the Saints, Bulger thinks he must have aggravated it against Arizona last week because he experienced a lot more soreness on Monday.

    He had so much going on injury-wise during the Arizona game that his shin bone didn't seem to be an issue. His groin area was sore, he was experiencing a foot problem, and late in the game he might have suffered a concussion on a hard sack by Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett.

    "It was kind of a bunch of things after the game," Bulger said. "We knew Monday morning I was going to get an MRI on my groin, which we did. Then during the day Monday I started to realize that my knee was sore. It was sore the week before, but it got really sore on Monday."

    So an additional MRI exam took place later that day on the knee area, strictly as a precautionary measure.

    "That's when we found out about the leg," Bulger said.

    So it's quite possible, then, that Bulger has been playing with a fractured bone in his knee since some time during the New Orleans game Nov. 15.

    "I hate to play the guessing game," Bulger said. "You play long enough in the NFL, I think everyone's played with broken bones at some point or another, and they just don't know it. If you're not willing to play with any kind of pain, then there's guys behind you ready to take your job."

    Since he is supposed to stay off his feet, Bulger isn't sure if he will be on the sidelines Sunday against the Seahawks. He may watch the game up in the coaches' booth.

    "But I'll be there in some capacity," he said.

  • #2
    Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

    I think this makes me like Bulger a little more. I never disliked him, just never was a fan in the true sense. I have a hard time trusting him to get the job done under pressure.

    Whatever comes of this injury Marc should be remembered as one of the Rams' better QB's historically similar to Jim (phantom sack) Everett. Maybe he simply had the misfortune of following Kurt Warner and not leading the team to his own Superbowl.

    NFL football is a man's game, as once more reinforced by the preceding article.
    RnD

    GO RAMS!!

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    • #3
      Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

      Bulger has always came off as being a nice, well rounded, down to earth guy ...

      If not for his destruction by the media and fans of St. Louis, I have no doubt he'd be willing to take a pay cut to stay here next year and keep fighting ...

      However, maybe he should demand a pay raise to continue to stick around and put up with that crap ...

      If he leaves, I sure as hell will not be looking forward to playing him. He's still got something in the tank in my opinion ...

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      • #4
        Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

        Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
        Bulger has always came off as being a nice, well rounded, down to earth guy ...

        If not for his destruction by the media and fans of St. Louis, I have no doubt he'd be willing to take a pay cut to stay here next year and keep fighting ...

        However, maybe he should demand a pay raise to continue to stick around and put up with that crap ...

        If he leaves, I sure as hell will not be looking forward to playing him. He's still got something in the tank in my opinion ...

        I have always liked Bulger the person. And I have liked him as a player for a good portion of his career. But I disagree with the notion he's been "destroyed by the fans and media". While the QB tends to take too much of the blame if things go wrong, much of the criticism over the past couple of seasons has been justified. St. Louis is hardly a tough place to play if you are a pro athlete as far as media and fan scrutiny are concerned. Marc Bulger is a big boy, and I'm sure he's hardly emotionally scarred over "unfair treatment".

        If Marc Bulger is given the opportunity to start for the Rams next year- an offer that is a 50-50 proposition at best- he'll be back, but I'd doubt he'd take a significant pay cut for the privilege. This is a business, and few players would do such a thing. When the dust has settled, he'll do what he feels is in his own best interests.

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        • #5
          Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

          Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
          Bulger has always came off as being a nice, well rounded, down to earth guy ...

          If not for his destruction by the media and fans of St. Louis, I have no doubt he'd be willing to take a pay cut to stay here next year and keep fighting ...

          However, maybe he should demand a pay raise to continue to stick around and put up with that crap ...

          If he leaves, I sure as hell will not be looking forward to playing him. He's still got something in the tank in my opinion ...
          I agree he has some in the tank, but mostly fumes. And for the "crap" he gets, I would take it for 65 million.

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          • #6
            Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

            I hope he stays here. Even if its for a back up role. We are going to regret it if he goes to a team who has talent around the QB spot.

            He's been an influence of mine, not on the field, but off the field. I always try to be as polite and caring as he is. One of my favorite Rams.

            Hopes he recovers well.

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            • #7
              Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

              Adios.

              When one door closes......
              Look away. I'm hideous. __ Cozmo Kramer

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              • #8
                Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

                Originally posted by live4ramin View Post
                Adios.

                When one door closes......

                I think Marc deserves better than that, don't you really?

                I am not a major supporter of Marc, but I do recognize there aren't many who would have fared much better given the conditions he has had to work under.

                Marc has taken a lot of abuse and shown he had the tools to ge the job done, I just am of the school that he doesn't seem to use them consistently and the shorter the field is the more they diminish.

                Marc, of course, did better right after Kurt left. Then players went in search of fatter checks and the Rams were left to fill the voids with lesser talents. Marc's win/loss record diminished accordingly, as would any QB.

                All-in-all he has been quite servicible and at least deserves some thanks for putting up with.

                The next QB might, after all, make you wish you had Marc back.:helmet:
                RnD

                GO RAMS!!

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                • #9
                  Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

                  Originally posted by ramsanddodgers View Post
                  I think Marc deserves better than that, don't you really?

                  I am not a major supporter of Marc, but I do recognize there aren't many who would have fared much better given the conditions he has had to work under.

                  Marc has taken a lot of abuse and shown he had the tools to ge the job done, I just am of the school that he doesn't seem to use them consistently and the shorter the field is the more they diminish.

                  Marc, of course, did better right after Kurt left. Then players went in search of fatter checks and the Rams were left to fill the voids with lesser talents. Marc's win/loss record diminished accordingly, as would any QB.

                  All-in-all he has been quite servicible and at least deserves some thanks for putting up with.

                  The next QB might, after all, make you wish you had Marc back.:helmet:
                  Yea, like he said, and perfectly so ...

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                  • #10
                    Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

                    Why are you people so insecure? Any quarterback can play as badly as bulger. Lets not waste any more time watching the agony of bulgers demise.

                    We don't yet know his name, but someone will step up and lead Spagnolo's ship.

                    The rebirth of rams nation begins sooner.
                    Look away. I'm hideous. __ Cozmo Kramer

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                    • #11
                      Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

                      Marc Bulger needs to retire from the NFL as a way to make up to the Rams for being a 65 million dollar bust. At least he would save us the money we owe him the next few years, rather than having us cut him and owe him whatever millions we would owe him.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

                        live4ramin and renwaruk, I understand where you are coming from on this, I just think Bulger deserves a bit more than a kick in the butt.

                        I am not insecure and I don't think Mark has been a complete bust. I am agreed that in this what-have-you-done-for-me-NFL Mark has not accomplished enough to make him worth keeping at his current pay scale but who do we have that can do any better at any pay scale?

                        If Marc will agree to restructure his contract he might be a good mentor to the up-and-comer, or the next wunderkind might spark Marc to find his old self (is anyone watching the Lienert/Warner thing in Phoenix?).

                        But then look at the receiving corps Warner is benefiting from. Does the QB make the receiver or vice-versa?

                        Regardless it all starts with those guys who get the least pay/glory, the Offensive Line, and a defense who can keep the game close enough for the offense to win it.

                        While not milquetoast, I do tend to be less alarmist than many.
                        RnD

                        GO RAMS!!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

                          Looking at the more successeful QBs around the NFL:

                          Breeze (Saints)
                          Brady (Pats)
                          Manning (Colts)
                          ...what do they have that Bulger doesn't besides an Offensive line and Reciever depth? Of the formentioned QBs how often you you see them on their back?

                          Put either of these 3 behind the Ram's line and little would it matter. A good Qb with a strong O-line looks like a great QB. Bulger has the skills to be a QB...anyone want to trade him for Delhome?

                          The only real issue with Bulger's future with the Rams is A: Salary cap and B: can he survive behind center with the line the Rams have.

                          If the Rams can't shore up the line, then the organization needs to cut Bulger loose because of his $65m contract. Does little good to pay that kinda $$$ for someone sitting on the sideline injured most of the season.

                          There is a warning in all this. Once upon a time many of us said "stick a fork in Warner, he's done". Well last I looked his new team made it to the Super Bowl...was responsible for benching the FUTURE of that team with his ablility...and of late has his team tops of the division. Would be rather ironic if Bulger left and history repeats itself
                          Last edited by Ram Dragoon; -11-29-2009, 06:11 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

                            Originally posted by live4ramin View Post
                            Why are you people so insecure? Any quarterback can play as badly as bulger. Lets not waste any more time watching the agony of bulgers demise.

                            We don't yet know his name, but someone will step up and lead Spagnolo's ship.

                            The rebirth of rams nation begins sooner.
                            And many can play worse. I have yet to see a top college prospect that I feel would lead this team back to .500 at QB.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Bulger Not Ready To Discuss Future

                              I believe that this team, such that it is, won't get better until we hit bottom.

                              It sounds harsh, but bulger is the bad apple in the bottom of the barrell that is the St. Louis Rams.

                              Management dearly wanted to avoid chaos by addressing these other needs first while bulger hung on to the tiller. They lost the gamble on bulgers durability, but here we are. That's why the F.O.B.'s hang on. They don't think so much that "bulger's a warrior", get real! bulgers the last remnants of the good old days. The cozy comfort of winning.

                              Had bulger not been injured we would still be having these arguments, we would still be in chaos, and we would still be faced with replacing him. After last years performance who can honestly say they expected otherwise?

                              Lets go on. We'll get over it.
                              Look away. I'm hideous. __ Cozmo Kramer

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                              • RamWraith
                                Bulger has begun throwing, but return is questionable
                                by RamWraith
                                By Jim Thomas
                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
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                                Rams quarterback Marc Bulger (right) is weighing whether it makes sense for him to return this season and risk aggravating his shoulder injury.
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                                A part of Marc Bulger wants to get back in the lineup ASAP, even if his injured right shoulder isn't fully healed.

                                "You don't want to sit here and say, 'I'm going to be smart and just sit it out and get better,'" Bulger said Tuesday. "You think about that a little bit. But that's not my decision. That's not my job. I get paid to play regardless of our record and regardless of how things are going. Right now, I want to be in there."

                                But a part of him says: Don't rush it this time. Bulger has injured his right shoulder four times over the 2004 and 2005 seasons:

                                * At Miami on Oct. 24, 2004.

                                * Against San Francisco on Dec. 5, 2004.

                                * At Indianapolis on Oct. 17 this season.

                                * And most recently, against Arizona on Nov. 20.

                                Each time, Bulger has rushed back into the lineup before the shoulder felt totally right, and he injured it again. The San Francisco injury last season lingered into the offseason - affecting his offseason training - even though he nursed it through the final two regular-season games and two playoff contests.

                                "It really didn't feel normal again until April or so," Bulger said. "I was a couple months behind last year. So that goes back to would it be smart to come back or not this year."

                                For now, those considerations are a mere mental exercise, because at the moment, Bulger's shoulder still isn't right.

                                For the first time since suffering the latest shoulder injury, Bulger threw Tuesday at Rams Park. He still experienced discomfort in the shoulder, and that was throwing at a distance of only 15 yards.

                                "I couldn't get much velocity," Bulger said. "I wouldn't be able to go in and throw deep outs and deep balls."

                                Or anything close to that. So that means Bulger will miss this Sunday's home game against Philadelphia, leaving only the game against San Francisco on Dec. 24 and the season finale Jan. 1 at Dallas.

                                Bulger will try to throw again early next week. But if he can't throw 15 yards without discomfort this week, will his shoulder improve dramatically in seven days?

                                "I don't anticipate it getting much better that quick," he said. "But I'm just trying to prepare myself if it is."

                                If he isn't ready by San Francisco next week, it seems almost silly to attempt to play in the final game. Why risk taking a shot on the shoulder against Dallas, which could mean another late start in his offseason conditioning program? Because every time Bulger injures his shoulder, he can't lift...
                                -12-14-2005, 04:10 AM
                              • RamWraith
                                Bulger shoulders the pain
                                by RamWraith
                                By Jim Thomas
                                Of the Post-Dispatch
                                Wednesday, Dec. 08 2004

                                It looks like Chris Chandler will be the Rams' starting quarterback for the
                                Carolina AND Arizona games.

                                In his first comments to reporters since suffering a bruised shoulder Sunday
                                against San Francisco, Marc Bulger said his target date for a return is Dec. 27
                                against Philadelphia.

                                "I think we're shooting for Philly now," Bulger said. "Best case, hopefully, I
                                can be back for next week. You hate to guess right now. You don't know after I
                                can finally throw if it's going to flare back up. So I'm going to rest it a
                                week and then see."

                                The Rams play at Carolina on Sunday; and then travel to Arizona for a game Dec.
                                19.

                                Bulger said the shoulder has improved since Sunday's game. So he might try some
                                light throwing Monday or Tuesday, "just to see how it reacts."

                                For the most part, Bulger said the discomfort in the shoulder isn't too bad.

                                "But throwing a football is obviously different," he said. "If it was my left
                                shoulder, I think I could play. But being the right shoulder, throwing the ball
                                is just about impossible right now.

                                "I obviously can't sleep on it. Can't put any pressure on it. Anything going
                                across my body hurts a lot worse than anything going away from my body. The
                                throwing motion kind of goes across, and that's where I run into problems."

                                Bulger said he has been sleeping on his back since the injury, which apparently
                                has led to some noisy nights. "I think I snore a little bit on my back," he
                                said.

                                Bulger has yet to receive any miracle shoulder cures from fans.

                                "I got some cookies from a neighbor, that's about it," Bulger said.

                                Bulger suffered a bone bruise in his throwing shoulder at the top of the
                                collarbone against San Francisco. The shoulder was X-rayed at the Edward Jones
                                Dome. But Bulger then left with team doctor Matt Matava for an MRI exam at
                                Barnes-Jewish West County Hospital.

                                "We were driving out there listening to the game on the radio," Bulger said.
                                "It was definitely a weird feeling."

                                The Rams wanted to get an MRI as soon as possible because of concerns over a
                                possible shoulder separation in the AC joint.

                                "I felt it click when I went down," Bulger said. "Immediately that's what I
                                thought - the AC."

                                But Bulger and the Rams were relieved to learn that it was just a bone bruise.
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                                -12-09-2004, 04:29 AM
                              • RamWraith
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                                From Fanball


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                                -11-27-2006, 02:52 PM
                              • .ramfan.
                                Bulger Healthy, Happy with New Staff
                                by .ramfan.
                                Bulger Healthy, Happy with New Staff
                                Thursday, February 16, 2006

                                By Nick Wagoner
                                Senior Writer

                                While Wednesday was the St. Louis media’s first opportunity to meet the new coaching staff, Thursday was the coaching staff’s first opportunity to meet with quarterback Marc Bulger.

                                Bulger arrived at Rams Park on Thursday afternoon and spent time meeting with head coach Scott Linehan, offensive coordinator Greg Olson and quarterbacks coach Doug Nussmeier. After a difficult season in which he played just eight games because of a shoulder injury, Bulger seemed excited to be discussing the possibilities that the future might hold.

                                “I am sure they are going to be demanding and want things right, but it wasn’t like I was up there talking to the Wizard of Oz,” Bulger said. “I think it will be good working with him.”

                                At the forefront of his conversation with the coaches was the future of an offense that has ranked among the league’s best for the past six seasons. Bulger grew up in former coach Mike Martz’s system, a system that used what was called the 3-digit system.

                                Digits are a way of identifying a route or a player within in a play. Martz's system also called for a lot of passes, many of which were based on seven-step drops and four or even five receiver sets.

                                While Martz’s system allowed for plenty of success for Bulger, it also wasn’t much of a democracy. But it didn’t take Linehan long to make it clear that Bulger would be able to have some newfound input into the playbook and the direction of the offense.

                                In fact, while most of the conversation focused on simple things such as the cadence or the evolution of the terminology in the playbook, Bulger – who was joined for part of the meetings by running back Marshall Faulk – was excited about Linehan’s willingness to listen.

                                “There wasn’t a point up there where it was ‘this is my stuff and we are sticking to it,’ which could happen,” Bulger said. “He’s real open to ‘what did you guys call this, what did you call that?’ There’s some give and take. Everyone’s been talking about he has his ego in check and to be able to play the give and take game between him and the players, I think we will respond to that very well.”

                                One other area that Bulger should respond very well to is the addition of some different protections and a more balanced offense. Many times during Martz’s tenure, the offense was criticized for being too pass heavy and it was no coincidence that there has been a strong correlation between running the ball well and winning in the past few years.

                                In Linehan’s short time in the NFL, he has shown a willingness to go to maximum protections and installs multiple tight end sets as well as a commitment to the run. Most quarterbacks, Bulger included, love to throw the ball a lot, but in Bulger’s case it hasn’t been good for...
                                -02-16-2006, 03:37 PM
                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Bulger On His Injury
                                by r8rh8rmike
                                Posted >Tue, August 18, 2009 02:50
                                by Nick Wagoner


                                - Quarterback Marc Bulger says he is not in any serious pain but did express some doubt about whether he'd be back in the two week time frame. But he does know he'll be ready for the season opener in Seattle. "That was still within 24 hours of doing it , so I don’t know any future plans, but I’m going to 100% going to be in for Seattle and that’s all I’m thinking about," Bulger said.

                                - Bulger said he received a call yesterday from Kurt Warner, the Arizona quarterback who went through something similar with the Rams. Bulger said he would try to catch up with Warner but everybody heals in a different way. "I know he did this in 2000, just to see how I can get back quicker, but I think everyone’s body is different," Bulger said. "I’ve seen guys come back from things that were amazing, and my body has healed some times and guys don’t understand how. So I’m just going to trust the trainers and coaches and my body that I’ll be back when I’m ready.”
                                -08-18-2009, 08:25 PM
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