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  • Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

    Lets not beat around the bush! Its time give Keith Null some live action pro football experience. Kyle Boller, lets face it , was a bad FA pick up. A good PLAYBOY, but a bad pick up, non the less, bringing nothing to the table.
    This weeks practices should have Keith Null rolling with the 1st team, as the Rams prepare for a trip to Chicago.

    40 year old Brett Favre picked apart this weak Seattle defense for 4 TDs and over 300 yards, Boller made the Seahawks look like a Baltimore Ravens or Pittsburgh Steelers defense.

    What do the Rams have to lose? Throw in the Kid! (Null that is!)
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    Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

    Originally posted by dgr828 View Post
    Lets not beat around the bush! Its time give Keith Null some live action pro football experience. Kyle Boller, lets face it , was a bad FA pick up. A good PLAYBOY, but a bad pick up, non the less, bringing nothing to the table.
    This weeks practices should have Keith Null rolling with the 1st team, as the Rams prepare for a trip to Chicago.

    40 year old Brett Favre picked apart this weak Seattle defense for 4 TDs and over 300 yards, Boller made the Seahawks look like a Baltimore Ravens or Pittsburgh Steelers defense.

    What do the Rams have to lose? Throw in the Kid! (Null that is!)
    Their dignity, their streak of games that have ended with the Rams gaining positive yardage, Chris Chandler's franchise record turnover mark, their will, and their status of "NFL team that has not gotten a player killed".

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    • #3
      Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

      Originally posted by dgr828 View Post
      40 year old Brett Favre picked apart this weak Seattle defense for 4 TDs and over 300 yards, Boller made the Seahawks look like a Baltimore Ravens or Pittsburgh Steelers defense.
      I would expect the front runner in the mvp race to pick apart and bad pass defense, but maybe you have higher expectations.

      Null doesnt play unless boller gets hurt, seriously do you have a grudge against this kid, or are you just trying to embarrass a random member on the team by throwing him into an inferno of blitzes.

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      • #4
        Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

        Originally posted by 01d 0rd3r View Post
        I would expect the front runner in the mvp race to pick apart and bad pass defense, but maybe you have higher expectations.

        Null doesnt play unless boller gets hurt, seriously do you have a grudge against this kid, or are you just trying to embarrass a random member on the team by throwing him into an inferno of blitzes.
        It's time for Keith to get his feet wet!
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        • #5
          Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

          Originally posted by dgr828 View Post
          It's time for Keith to get his feet wet!
          He's allegedly drowning in practice.

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          • #6
            Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

            The most passing yards we have had this year made them look like the Steelers? come on just another wild exageration on your part... once again.

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            • #7
              Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

              Let's see'm for gods sakes. What's the big mystery? Get the kids feet wet. Just a few snaps; a taste.
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              • #8
                Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

                Originally posted by live4ramin View Post
                Let's see'm for gods sakes. What's the big mystery? Get the kids feet wet. Just a few snaps; a taste.
                Do you see Tampa, Oakland, Detroit, Kansas City, or (enter horrible team here) playing their rookie 3rd string QB from a completely different offensive system "just to get their feet wet"? Shoot...have you ever seen an NFL team do that?

                From an evaluation perspective, considering how injury-ravaged and talent-depleted this team is, if you have yet to experience significant playing time for the Rams, I can only assume that you do not even belong in the NFL...at least beyond the backup level.

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                • #9
                  Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

                  Originally posted by dgr828 View Post
                  It's time for Keith to get his feet wet!
                  His feet will be broken by the end of the game.

                  We are missing three of our offensive linemen. I don't want to watch our third quarterback this year get decimated. :|

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                  • #10
                    Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

                    You mean he's not a wco QB. He must then be a pocket passer. There's no place on this team for throwing verticaly down the field. God forbid, he may even audible. This could lead to calling his own plays and eventually showing the dasterdly leadership we've heard of. Tell me when it's over.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

                      Originally posted by live4ramin View Post
                      You mean he's not a wco QB. He must then be a pocket passer. There's no place on this team for throwing verticaly down the field. God forbid, he may even audible. This could lead to calling his own plays and eventually showing the dasterdly leadership we've heard of. Tell me when it's over.
                      Point 1. He's from a spread offense. We don't have the personnel or reciever depth to run anything close to a spread offense.

                      Point 2. Our last pocket passer broke his leg last week. And suffered a concussion. And has generally not performed well due to circumstances of his own making and that of others.

                      Point 3. Our line is singularly unsuited to protect a pocket passer. So even if Null was one, sending him out there would truly be the height of insanity.

                      Point 4. We lack the receivers to reliably go "vertical"

                      Point 5 (related to point 4). There is no point in calling an audible unless it consists of "Jackson is now getting the ball on this play, and to heck with this 3 yard slant Shurmur called."

                      Point 6. If you're playing at NCAA Division II, it's usually a sign that you aren't the brightest bulb in the box. The last thing we want is this guy to audible.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

                        Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
                        Do you see Tampa, Oakland, Detroit, Kansas City, or (enter horrible team here) playing their rookie 3rd string QB from a completely different offensive system "just to get their feet wet"? Shoot...have you ever seen an NFL team do that?

                        From an evaluation perspective, considering how injury-ravaged and talent-depleted this team is, if you have yet to experience significant playing time for the Rams, I can only assume that you do not even belong in the NFL...at least beyond the backup level.
                        Tampa Bay put in Josh Freeman and he was their 3rd sting QB. Russel is a bust and now their playing Gradowski, They have Stafford so their testing him out, Chiefs have Cassel, Browns have Quinn and Anderson who are oth terrible bot Quinn still has potential but probably is a bust. Bucs, Lions, Browns have young QB so they cant put in #3 QB because they want to see what their QB can do. Russel is a bust so now their trying out Gradowski and Cassel was beat in pats they want to see if he can beast for Chiefs. For the Rams we all know that Bulger sucks and hes 32, Boller sucks also hes 28(not really old), Null is 23 those other teams have young QB's and are testing them out. Lets test ours.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

                          Originally posted by dgr828 View Post

                          What do the Rams have to lose? Throw in the Kid! (Null that is!)
                          So, our head coach is in over his head, so you want to throw in a rookie QB behind a patchwork O-Line, and HE won't be in over his head.

                          Dude, seriously....
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                          • #14
                            Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

                            Originally posted by ImOnFire15 View Post
                            Tampa Bay put in Josh Freeman and he was their 3rd sting QB. Russel is a bust and now their playing Gradowski, They have Stafford so their testing him out, Chiefs have Cassel, Browns have Quinn and Anderson who are oth terrible bot Quinn still has potential but probably is a bust. Bucs, Lions, Browns have young QB so they cant put in #3 QB because they want to see what their QB can do. Russel is a bust so now their trying out Gradowski and Cassel was beat in pats they want to see if he can beast for Chiefs. For the Rams we all know that Bulger sucks and hes 32, Boller sucks also hes 28(not really old), Null is 23 those other teams have young QB's and are testing them out. Lets test ours.
                            Josh Freeman was a first round pick, commands a much higher salary than Null does, and is Tampa's designated "franchise QB of the future" from Day 1. He was going to start this year regardless of his initial position on the depth chart. Indeed, all of those teams that are "testing out" young QBs have so much money invested in those players that they have to play them by necessity.

                            Null is paid....well if not the rookie minimum, something close to it. Finances do not dictate we start him unless Boller and Bulger are both dead or physically unable to play.

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                              Re: Are the Rams ready to throw Null into the fire?

                              For anyone that has read my posts, they know I have been begging for the Rams to put Null in. we have nothing to lose so lets see what he has to offer.

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                              • realchamp11
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                                i dont understand why people thought null was ready to start. He's a rookie and not even from the D1 level. He was/is NO WHERE close to being ready to be a starter
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                                By Nick Wagoner
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                                Although he was nervous, rookie quarterback Keith Null let nobody know that the moment of making his first start was too big for him.

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                                “I’d say after the first play,” Null said. “I went out there pretty comfortable. It definitely helps to go out and throw a completion on your first pass so after that any player would tell you, you get that first play then you are out there playing football again.”

                                It was a long road from tiny West Texas A&M to taking the reigns of the Rams offense for Null but on the first play from scrimmage, Null had a number of firsts.

                                Null took his first snap in a regular season game (and from under center, something he hadn’t done much of in his shotgun-heavy career), dropped back and delivered his first pass to tight end Daniel Fells for a gain of 7 yards.

                                It wasn’t the flashiest opening to a NFL career, but it was enough to shake the butterflies loose from Null’s stomach and allow him to settle in.

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                                But in retrospect, it wasn’t so much the numbers Null posted as the way he handled an extremely difficult situation that impressed teammates and coaches alike.

                                “Under the circumstances and how it all went down, I thought he handled himself well in the huddle, I thought he was composed, he had command of what he was doing,” coach Steve Spagnuolo said. “He’d like some throws back. I thought he stepped up in the pocket well and actually had some pretty nice throws. That part of it was encouraging.”

                                Null finished the game 27-of-43 for 157 yards with a touchdown and five interceptions for a rating of 37.8.

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                                By Saturday, it had become clear that Boller would be a game time decision and Null was a viable candidate to start.
                                That made for some interesting moments for Null in the run up to the game as he awaited word on his role.

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                                -12-15-2009, 08:01 PM
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                                Rookie quarterback Keith Null has earned a spot on the 2010 Rams. This much we know for sure.

                                Could he compete for the starting job next season? It is too soon to stay that.

                                Could he blossom into the franchise’s Quarterback of the Future? It is much, MUCH too soon to make such an optimistic assessment.

                                We do know that Null has pretty good tools. And we know he has some nerve, too, since he shrugged off his ghastly five-interception debut in Week 14.

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                                "It was a lot different," Null told reporters after the game. "It seemed like things slowed down a little bit for me a lot more than it did last week. It was a great opportunity to get out there and play again."

                                He made just two glaring mistakes during the Rams’ 16-13 loss to the visiting Texans Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome.

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                                Other than those errors of aggression, Null was just fine.

                                He took a couple of big sacks after failing to locate a receiver, but at least he pulled the ball back instead of forcing throws into coverage. That was progress.

                                Null completed 18 of 27 passes for 173 yards and a touchdown. He looked like a veteran while converting that one red zone opportunity.

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                                Null demonstrated a strong arm while taking some deep shots. He threw intermediate passes with authority. He made generally good reads, too.

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                              • r8rh8rmike
                                Round Two: Why Not Null At QB For Rams?
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                                11.25.2009 11:53 am
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                                By Roger Hensley



                                QUESTION: With only six games remaining and the St. Louis Rams sitting at 1-9, and with QB Marc Bulger injured, why are the Rams not considering Keith Null at QB so they can see what they’ve got there? Rookie QBs play all the time, surely he’s prepared after being with the team since training camp, right?

                                JIM THOMAS

                                Apparently this is hard for some to fathom, but Keith Null IS NOT READY. He played at WEST Texas A&M, not Texas A&M. It wasn’t until October that he even felt comfortable taking snaps from center. If you think Marc Bulger had communication and timing issues with Brandon Gibson, what do you think will happen with Null? To borrow from a Rams Park colleague, about the best thing Null has going for him right now is an absence of failure. And whether you’re 1-9 or 9-1 — this is the NFL. You play to win. This is November, not August. And right now, Kyle Boller gives the Rams their best chance to win.

                                BERNIE MIKLASZ

                                No. 1, Null is a very raw project. A small-college guy from a spread offense. He needs a lot of time to prep before he can start an NFL game. He’s at a disadvantage compared to other rookie QBs who played in major-college programs and in more pro-style offenses.

                                No. 2, he has had virtually no practice time at all in running this offense. It would be a disservice to the kid to throw him to the wolves. Why do people want to see him fail at a job before he’s ready to take on that job? What’s the point? Why get him massacred? Irresponsible.

                                No. 3, the Rams aren’t as high on Null as people seem to think that they are.

                                BRYAN BURWELL

                                Unless there is a major medical disaster to Kyle Boller, there is no reason to put a rookie QB who doesn’t forecast as a star into the lineup as a starter. Would I like to see him in for a look-see? Sure, but perhaps the Rams staff has already seen enough of Null and they don’t think he is ready yet.

                                BILL COATS

                                Null’s simply not ready. As the No. 3 QB, he’s gotten very few reps in practice since the start of the regular season because Kyle Boller does the scout-team work. It would be unfair to Null to toss him in there now. You would set him up to fail by doing so.
                                -11-25-2009, 11:41 AM
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