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    The confidence of the enemy

    I want everyone to stroll on over to dabears.com and go to their forums. Find the thread that says "can we beat the rams at home?" and look at the confidence level of that team. The confidence level of that fan base is astounding, they honestly think they will get blown out. Now thats not to say they are bad fans, they are also going through a rough year. But i dont ever remember us think we were gonna lose to a team with the same kind of record we had(seahakws, jags, lions,redskins) all of these teams had similar records to ours when we played them and to my knowledge most of us though these game were at least winnable.

    So here is my question. Has years of losing conditioned us to accept it and somehow always look for the win? Does that last sentence even make sense? Or do teams that are used to winning(bears,patriots,colts,steelers) so not used to losing that their confidence plummets?
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    Re: The confidence of the enemy

    Losing is contagious. When you lose all the time, people expect the worst. This is the difficulty coaches face in trying to turn around a franchise. Guys expect to lose, wondering "what will happen next to prevent us from winning?". It's human nature. Conversely, winning breeds confidence and thus, more winning. This is true at all levels of sport. As a coach, I've seen both ends of the spectrum.

    I must admit, as a fan it is difficult to think we're going to win each week. We say it, hope it, will it to happen, but objectively without saying so verbally know its a tall order. Reality sets in.

    My brother is a big Bears fan. I can tell you they are thoroughly disgusted with their season, given the fact that they paid handsomely for Jay Cutler, and he's played poorly. Many feel he is being poorly coached and not being given play sets to utilize his strengths as a player. And people have been down on Lovie Smith for a couple of years now.

    Even with all that said, it's hard to believe that fans would be so adamant that a 1-9 team would come into their stadium and blow the doors off the Bears.

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      Re: The confidence of the enemy

      If we won that New Orleans game, I guarantee you we'd be on a streak.
      Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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        I remember going over to their message board a few years ago and posting up that I thought the Rams were going to win. They thought I was crazy, but it turned out to be a close game. We did lose though. They were pretty nice after the loss. That return guy killed us in that game....was his name hester? Got a couple of TDs for them.

        Maybe I will go over say hello. I have not wandered on to many other teams message boards this year.
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          I went over and said hello. Confidence of the fans is shot. They are hoping to have Lovie removed, and some say the players are not motivated. Maybe the odds are better than we realize.
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            Re: The confidence of the enemy

            Originally posted by UtterBlitz View Post
            I went over and said hello. Confidence of the fans is shot. They are hoping to have Lovie removed, and some say the players are not motivated. Maybe the odds are better than we realize.
            Ya i didnt post anything, but the confidence over there was very poor. Support for lovie must be at an all time low. Then again i would be mad to if we traded two first round picks(is that right?) for jay cutler and he didnt preform.

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              Poor Lovie....I liked him when he was here. I thought he did a good job for us as a DC.
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                I'm sure their confidence is shot.

                We are totally used to it. When we win a game, we go help old people cross the road, we give children balloons at parks, we save kittens from trees.

                But when we lose, it's just another Sunday. It is contagious and we have been diagnosed to the highest degree.

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                  Re: The confidence of the enemy

                  Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
                  We are totally used to it. When we win a game, we go help old people cross the road, we give children balloons at parks, we save kittens from trees.
                  I put on my cape and boots and go fight crime for a few hours. How bout you?

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