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    So I have been juggling this idea in my head since the beginning of the season. I might of even mentioned it once or twice as a comment. But I have an idea that if it works would give us a dominate line for yrs to come. This year if little retires, then you move C.Long to LE, you draft Suh, (best college player IMO), then u keep Ryan, and Ramsey, maybe Gibson, who was injured, and at RDE, u put Adam Carriker. We know he's not gonna be a DT, he's to small, and when he gets big, or heavier then he suffers a SEI, (season ending injury). So before we release him, and label him as the next Vernon Gholston, or J.Russell, or even R.Pickett, we should let him play his natural position. If it works, a Dline of where the oldest person is 25, would be a line that would keep us in contention for the next 5 yrs. If it fails, then we can plug another body in, but overall, pending on back-ups, its a great idea. Comments are apprieciated

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    He was 296 in college and plays DT at 308. That means he gained 12 pounds and his body fell apart? But the odd part is that it's his shoulders that have had the most problem, how does that relate to size gain? He had nagging ankle injuries at Nebraska and they returned at the pros. Sorry but I don't buy into the weight gain argument.

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    • #3
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      Ok first, nobody currently in the NFL should be put in the same category as J. Russell. He's so bad it's laughable.

      Anyway, a lot of people will point out that Carriker's "natural position" is probably closer to a 4-3 DT than a 4-3 DE. That being said, Spags likes to move his linemen around and we're going to need a DE in the worst kind of way next season, so I like the idea of giving Carriker a lot of snaps at DE (provided he can stay healthy for more than 1 snap) and seeing what he does.

      Drafting Suh and shifting Carriker to DE could give us a decent if not stellar line short-term and sets us to have a dominant line a couple years down the road.

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by Nick_Weasel View Post
        Ok first, nobody currently in the NFL should be put in the same category as J. Russell. He's so bad it's laughable.

        Anyway, a lot of people will point out that Carriker's "natural position" is probably closer to a 4-3 DT than a 4-3 DE. That being said, Spags likes to move his linemen around and we're going to need a DE in the worst kind of way next season, so I like the idea of giving Carriker a lot of snaps at DE (provided he can stay healthy for more than 1 snap) and seeing what he does.

        Drafting Suh and shifting Carriker to DE could give us a decent if not stellar line short-term and sets us to have a dominant line a couple years down the road.
        This horse has been beat to death. Carriker is way too big, and way too slow to play DE in a 4-3 ....

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        • #5
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          IMO, Carriker is more af a 3-4 DE. Not agile and does not possess the necessary agility required in a 4-3 DE. However, if he was not so injury prone, I think he would make a fine DT in our scheme.

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          • #6
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            long, carriker and suh in a 3-4 scheme...never happen with spags but that would be an incredible d-line...if only we had some backers...

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            • #7
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              I've been frustrated with the lack of sacks, but I see the problem. Talent.

              Chris Long is a LE, playing RE. He's been getting much, much better as the season progresses and he's coming on strong. I'm a huge supporter of his, and think a move back to the Left side would do wonders for him.

              Clifton Ryan has All Pro potential, he just plays next to a bunch of bums. If we get a good Defensive Tackle in Free Agency, such as Coefiled, or a draftee such as Suh, or McCoy, Dan Williams... whoever, someone that's GOOD, Ryan will be a beast. Currently he's a beast with no one beside him. He's the #1 player I look to resign this off season.

              Bring back Carriker after a pay cut. I know he's been struggling, but perhaps Spagnuolo can work with him. He'd be a decent backup, he's shown flashes, and from the recent history of letting Defensive Tackles go ( Ryan Pickett, Damion Lewis, Jimmy Kennedy ), he'll be a Pro Bowler on another team.

              I would LOVE to see Spagnuolo and Deavaney attempt to bring in Shawn Merriman in the off season. While it's a long shot, he could play SLB / DE for us. He'd come at a high cost, and he'd be a bit of a risk, but I love the thought of him in Spagnuolo's scheme with his creativity.


              Lack of sacks = Lack of talent.

              Next season when we add 1 or 2 more starting Defensive Lineman ( DE, and DT ) and 1 or 2 starting OLB ( WLB, and SLB )... we'll see a LARGE improvement of defense.

              This season was one where Spagnuolo and Deavaney scout what we have, and find what we for sure need. The needs consist of:

              - Starting QB
              - Backup RB
              - Right Defensive End
              - Starting Defensive Tackle
              - Weak Side Linebacker
              - Strong Side Linebacker
              - Wide Receiver
              - Tight End

              It seems like a lot, yes.. But it's not something that is a 3 year process. You sign a veteran QB in the Free Agency, and draft a franchise Quarterback in the draft to start grooming him, and your good.

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              • Aronmorg
                Carriker
                by Aronmorg
                Hello Ram Nation,

                Casual Rams fan here, Really i'm a Cowboys fan but since i'm living in STL I root for them when they aren't playing the boys. ( The 2008 game still hurts. lol)

                I was just wondering about Carriker, it seem like the has the size and athleticism to be an all pro 4-3 DT but he just hasn't put it together. 6-6 305 is THE ideal size for that position. Can anyone tell me their opinion on why he has panned out so far.

                I know he's been injured for 2/3's of his career, but has he shown flashes of brilliance or anything.

                Also give me the inside scoop on Chris Long does he look like he could make the pro-bowl anytime in soon.

                BTW I believe that the Rams should look into getting Julius Peppers although i'm sure he is looking for a winning team and not just a paycheck.
                -02-20-2010, 05:51 PM
              • 39thebeast
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                by 39thebeast
                When I saw Steve Spagnulo's former team add a big time 3-4 DE into his 4-3 scheme that made me think alot. The Giants will use Canty at LE on early downs and at UT on passing downs. That made me think alot about how Spags would use Carriker who is verry similar to Canty. If we add a DT in the draft like Ron Brace or Hood I think Spags could do something like this.

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                UT- Ryan
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                Passing Downs
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                We could also rotate guys like Hall and Adenyanju in who are good against the run and could be used in 3 DE sets with Carriker. I have never been a guy who wanted to put Carriker at end, but I think Spags is the guy who could take full advantage of his versatility. We have some young versatile lineman and we could take advantage of that.

                What do you guys think?
                -04-04-2009, 01:46 PM
              • jbell15
                What do you guys think of this idea?
                by jbell15
                Leonard Little seems to be at the end of the road as a ram. He was productive last year, when healthy, but seems to be only a situational pass rusher going forward. We obviously need to find his eventual replacement, but could that replacement come from our line right now? Adam Carriker has been playing out of position, and at 6'6, he could be an imposing force at DE. If Victor Adeyanju does not take his game to the next level, what do you guys think of moving Carriker back to his natural DE position next year, with Little either retiring or being a third down pass rusher?
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              • codeman123
                Adam Carriker Likely Out for Season
                by codeman123
                Being reported by Vanram on Turfshowtimes and Jim Thomas on the Post-Dispatch.

                It's being reported that DT Adam Carriker will need surgery on the shoulder he injured last night in preseason play against the Chiefs...the same should he injured in his rookie season.
                That will likely put him out for the 2009 season, to say nothing of where it puts his career.
                I'd say this is a major blow to the Rams, but they obviously weren't counting on Carriker at this point anyway, not since he got demoted to the second team upon his return from an ankle injury...the same ankle he injured last year and in college.
                That makes the Rams DT lineup for the final roster Clifton Ryan, Gary Gibson, Darell Scott, and Hollis Thomas. I'd be shocked and awed if they don't add some talent at DT before the season starts, whether by waiting for roster cuts or trade.



                This is awful news. We will now obviously look hard at the waiver wire and maybe a possible trade. There are some really good DT prospects in next years draft, and as much as some people want to draft a first round QB, it looks like the defensive line will be addressed first with a pure defensive tackle prospect, unlike Carriker.
                -09-04-2009, 03:48 PM
              • Tony Soprano
                We are misusing Carriker
                by Tony Soprano
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                Run Stuffers are much easier to find than pass rushers. Carriker's talents are being wasted and it remains to be seen whether he can make the transition to NG at 6'6'.

                It was a bad idea to take an early-mid first round pick and make him into a project at another position. He should play DE and maybe some of the 3 technique tackle, but
                it's a waste to play him at NG. Not to mention Carriker's career would be extended by playing DE or 3 technique.

                Move him to RDE and let him play.
                -09-25-2007, 02:48 AM
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