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  • #1

    The Browns win....

    ....puts us one step closer in the Donkey Kong sweepstakes. I suppose that's a good thing in this most miserable of seasons. Their win last night gives the Rams the #1 overall pick, currently. A couple of games, this weekend, of interest in the Rams draft order situation:

    Bucs over the Jets (obviously)
    Dolphins over the Jags (this boosts the Bucs SOS and drops ours)
    Titans over the.......(I just can't do it; I refuse to root against the Rams)
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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    Re: The Browns win....

    What's more disturbing than anything to me is why we haven't pulled off an upset this season?! I mean that BROWNS team is horrible....yet they pulled off a huge upset over the Steelers!!!!

    C'mon RAMS you must have at least one....
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    • #3
      Re: The Browns win....

      Originally posted by laram0 View Post
      What's more disturbing than anything to me is why we haven't pulled off an upset this season?! I mean that BROWNS team is horrible....yet they pulled off a huge upset over the Steelers!!!!

      C'mon RAMS you must have at least one....
      I think if Bulger had stayed healthy that upset win may have happened. They were gaining momentum up untill his injury.
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      • #4
        Re: The Browns win....

        Having the 1st pick in the draft is a potential disaster for this team. Sure there is no salary cap in 2010, but there is a good chance there will be one in forthcoming seasons ...

        Back to back #2 picks, then the #1. That is a HUGE amount of money tied up in players, one is which is slowly improving (Long), the other that is currently a HUGE question mark since he cannot recover from a concussion ...

        Only positive is, I bet there are a handful of teams out there that might potentially want to jump to #1 and take Suh. Maybe we can dump it for several other picks if we end up there ...

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        • #5
          Re: The Browns win....

          Originally posted by laram0 View Post
          What's more disturbing than anything to me is why we haven't pulled off an upset this season?! I mean that BROWNS team is horrible....yet they pulled off a huge upset over the Steelers!!!!

          C'mon RAMS you must have at least one....

          I think that in the conditions they played in last night, we may have also upset the steelers, purely on the legs of steven jackson. Well, maybe if Bulger was healthy too. And Atowge. And Jason Smith. And Fletcher. And Carriker?

          Anyway, back to the harsh real world...

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          • #6
            Re: The Browns win....

            At least the Browns beat their biggest division rival. Nice win for them.
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            • #7
              Re: The Browns win....

              Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
              Having the 1st pick in the draft is a potential disaster for this team. Sure there is no salary cap in 2010, but there is a good chance there will be one in forthcoming seasons ...

              Back to back #2 picks, then the #1. That is a HUGE amount of money tied up in players, one is which is slowly improving (Long), the other that is currently a HUGE question mark since he cannot recover from a concussion ...

              Only positive is, I bet there are a handful of teams out there that might potentially want to jump to #1 and take Suh. Maybe we can dump it for several other picks if we end up there ...


              I like this idea. We need more volume with the holes we have to fill and one player will not do it. Plus, there is pressure to the number 1 draft pick. So much hype, money and expectations. Better to get a few slots here.

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              • #8
                Re: The Browns win....

                Originally posted by macrammer View Post
                I like this idea. We need more volume with the holes we have to fill and one player will not do it. Plus, there is pressure to the number 1 draft pick. So much hype, money and expectations. Better to get a few slots here.
                As always, though, there is the question of trade partner. For every team that wants extra picks for the #1, there has to be a team that wants the #1 for extra picks.
                The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Browns win....

                  Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
                  Having the 1st pick in the draft is a potential disaster for this team. Sure there is no salary cap in 2010, but there is a good chance there will be one in forthcoming seasons ...

                  Back to back #2 picks, then the #1. That is a HUGE amount of money tied up in players, one is which is slowly improving (Long), the other that is currently a HUGE question mark since he cannot recover from a concussion ...

                  Only positive is, I bet there are a handful of teams out there that might potentially want to jump to #1 and take Suh. Maybe we can dump it for several other picks if we end up there ...
                  I think you make an excellent point here, not only is there alot of money tied up for 3 players but if we so choose to re-sign said players it's going to cost alot more, which means that we may be only renting these players untill their next contract.
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                  • #10
                    Re: The Browns win....

                    Originally posted by macrammer View Post
                    I like this idea. We need more volume with the holes we have to fill and one player will not do it. Plus, there is pressure to the number 1 draft pick. So much hype, money and expectations. Better to get a few slots here.
                    Forget about it no owner or GM wants the rams first pick which will probably be the number one overall pick in the 2010 draft, capped year or not.
                    Last edited by mtah6245; -12-11-2009, 10:49 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The Browns win....

                      It is VERY unlikely that anyone would want to trade up to the 1st pick, as mentioned above. If that is the case, I will be happy if we take Suh. I'm not too excited about taking any of the QB's that will be available with the first three picks in the draft. It all starts on the front lines and it has been a long time since the Rams were solid in that department. It's time to make lemonade out of lemons. I have a feeling that Suh will be the tonic that will hit the spot for years to come. Defense wins championships...or so the story goes. Let's grab Suh and be excited about it!

                      GC said a few years back, "Bring me the head of Hawk!" I would say the same thing in this case, "Bring us the head of Suh!"

                      Go Rams!!!
                      Last edited by viper; -12-11-2009, 01:18 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The Browns win....

                        In my opinion too many people are trying to over think this.

                        Suh is a beast.

                        We have had countless debates on this board about picking the Best Player Available versus Biggest need when drafting.

                        Suh is both.

                        I hope we win out. I hope we don't have the #1 pick... but if we do I hope we draft Suh.

                        (Cue the overly dramatic music)

                        If we have the chance and we pass on Suh it could be our worst draft decision in the last decade... and that is saying a lot.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The Browns win....

                          Originally posted by RamsInfiniti View Post
                          Having the 1st pick in the draft is a potential disaster for this team. Sure there is no salary cap in 2010, but there is a good chance there will be one in forthcoming seasons ...

                          Back to back #2 picks, then the #1. That is a HUGE amount of money tied up in players, one is which is slowly improving (Long), the other that is currently a HUGE question mark since he cannot recover from a concussion ...

                          Only positive is, I bet there are a handful of teams out there that might potentially want to jump to #1 and take Suh. Maybe we can dump it for several other picks if we end up there ...
                          as has been discussed, though high draft picks technically make a lot of money not very much of it counts against the cap...

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                          • #14
                            Re: The Browns win....

                            If we can take Suh, we should jump on it. Its as simple as that.
                            Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Browns win....

                              I really can't see anybody worth No. 1 pick, except Suh! I don't mean just worth for us, than generally.

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