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    Incognito benched for much of game
    By Jim Thomas

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Right guard Richie Incognito let his temper get the best of him Sunday, and this time, it earned him a seat on the bench for the rest of the game.

    Starting their second possession at their 3 Sunday against Tennessee, the Rams had pushed their way out to the 32, when Incognito was caught head-butting Titans defensive tackle Sen'Derrick Marks after the whistle on a Steven Jackson run.

    The 15-yard penalty pushed the Rams back to their 19, leading to a Donnie Jones punt. Incognito was pulled for the game for one play but returned for the next series.

    He didn't keep his cool for long. On the Rams' second series of the second quarter, Incognito again was flagged for a late hit, striking Titans safety Vincent Fuller at the end of a pass play to Kenneth Darby.

    That made it two 15-yard penalties by Incognito in less than 1½ quarters. That was enough for coach Steve Spagnuolo, who benched Incognito for the rest of the game, with Mark Setterstrom taking over.

    In the season opener against Seattle, Incognito also committed two personal foul penalties but was pulled out of the game for only a handful of plays.

    When asked why he benched Incognito against the Titans, Spagnuolo replied: "It's just something I've done. ... I like Richie, I do. I'm trying to help."

    When asked what he could do about Incognito's anger management problem, Spagnuolo said, "I'm not sure. It's more about the team right now."

    A team that got spanked by Tennessee 47-7 at LP Field.

    Incognito made a quick exit from the Rams' locker room Sunday and was not available to comment. By the time reporters left Spagnuolo's postgame news conference, Incognito had left the locker room.

    "He claims he's innocent," left guard Jacob Bell said. "So we just have to go back and look at the film. When it starts getting chippy, they're going to look at the guy that they know sometimes causes that kind of stuff.

    "So whether he did it or he didn't do it, they're going to throw the flag on him. They calmed things down. You realize, 'Hey, they're going to throw a flag for anything now.' So you need to just be careful and realize that's how it's going."


    Starting weakside linebacker Paris Lenon suffered a hip injury with 7 minutes, 55 seconds to play in the second quarter and did not return. He was replaced by Chris Chamberlain. Meanwhile, starting strongside linebacker David Vobora left with a hyperextended knee and an ankle injury on kickoff coverage in the fourth quarter following the Rams' only touchdown.

    Bell suffered a hamstring injury trying to chase down Fuller on his 45-yard interception return for a TD with just under 6 minutes to play in the game.

    The extent of all three injuries is uncertain.


    Pregame inactives for St. Louis were OT Jason Smith (concussion), QB Marc Bulger (fractured shin bone), OG Roger Allen III, CB Danny Gorrer, S Clinton Hart, RB Chris Ogbonnaya and OT Phil Trautwein.

  • #2
    Re: Incognito benched for much of game

    Al: Hey Tom, wake up!

    Tom: It's 2:30 in the morning. Who is this?

    Al: It's your boss, Al Davis. Hey listen, there's this kid in St. Louis that we just got to have on our team. He's perfect for us!
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.


    • #3
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      Wow, that list of injuries is sickening. Someone needs to change the strength and conditioning coach.


      • #4
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        Incognito has had more than enough chances. It's time to get rid of this overgrown child once and for all.

        We can lose ballgames with good people who will do what is asked and conduct themselves properly; we don't need to lose games with guys who haven't learned anything about poise or self-discipline.


        • #5
          Re: Incognito benched for much of game

          Buh-bye, Richie.


          • #6
            Re: Incognito benched for much of game

            Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
            Incognito has had more than enough chances. It's time to get rid of this overgrown child once and for all.

            We can lose ballgames with good people who will do what is asked and conduct themselves properly; we don't need to lose games with guys who haven't learned anything about poise or self-discipline.
            I could be incorrect, but a Titans fan at the game brought this up to me, and I could not verify ...

            He said that Incognito was not even on the sideline in the second half.


            • #7
              Re: Incognito benched for much of game

              Originally posted by Mooselini View Post
              Wow, that list of injuries is sickening. Someone needs to change the strength and conditioning coach.
              Unfortunately, I don't think the hip and knee injuries can be helped by a conditioning guy.


              • #8
                Re: Incognito benched for much of game

                And Barron, looked horrible today. He should have been fighting for his over-matched QB, but there he was again, false starts, no timing.

                Barron and Cogs seem to be leaving quickly.


                • #9
                  Re: Incognito benched for much of game

                  When are we going to cut Incognito?? He is so overdue.


                  • #10
                    Re: Incognito benched for much of game

                    For the past 4-5 years the O-line has been horrible by all accounts, getting our QB's butchered. The one constant in all of it is 2 lineman that seem to get flagged way to much at the wrong time, & then throw in their below average line play & you have what mounts into a pathetic O-line. Until Devaney & Spags rid St. Louis of these 2 clowns that try & disguise themselves as offensive linemen we will continue to be bottom feeders in the NFL.


                    • #11
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                      Incognito is a liability, and it just about sum's the Rams up that he has constantly hurt an already awful team with needless penalties for how many years?!! Seriously this guy shudn't be anywhere near a field again. Doesn't have a clue..


                      • #12
                        Re: Incognito benched for much of game

                        I will say it. I have been a big Icognito supporter from the beginning. I loved his big tough physical aggressive play and thought that it was something that we could use more of. Sure he made some bone headed plays before, but it was nice to see that someone on that line actually cared about this team and was fighting for it. I was proud of the fact that he had been playing with a cool head as of late, and was being physical without being an idiot.

                        And then he goes out and headbutts a guy........Not to much I can say to defend the guy here. As much as I like him, I think he's going to be playing somewhere else next year. As much as that hurts me to say, we need to get rid of him. I can deal with the 15 yard penalties every once in a while when your trying to protect your team, but this is just uncalled for. Bye Bye Richie. See you somewhere else next year.


                        • #13
                          Re: Incognito benched for much of game

                          I love his passion, but he's shown too many times he can't control it. I really don't see him around after this year. Maybe we can at least get a decent draft pick for him though, I'm sure the Raiders would be interested


                          • #14
                            Re: Incognito benched for much of game

                            I will:

                            Miss Richie's intensity and solid run blocking, and his huge frame.

                            I will not:

                            Miss his stupid errors and dumb actions that cost us so many yards and ruins precious momentum.

                            I want us to draft a big, physical RG to replace Incognito, a guy that has a similar frame to give Jackson the same amount of push.

                            I would consider Mike Iupati out of Idaho. That guy is a monster, and a better pass blocker than Richie too. He's also a lot smarter.


                            • #15
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                              This guy is a clown with no sense at all, what a idiot.


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                                by RamFan_Til_I_Die
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                                BY JIM THOMAS
                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

                                SEATTLE — In terms of the Rams' woeful recent past, coach Steve Spagnuolo has wiped the slate clean. For Richie Incognito, it's a good thing that's the case.

                                That's because Incognito was flagged for 35 yards worth of penalties Sunday in Seattle, two of which were personal fouls for unnecessary roughness that killed Rams drives. After the second personal foul, Incognito was replaced by Adam Goldberg with 10 minutes to play in the third quarter.

                                But Goldberg was in for only the rest of that possession — two plays — and a three-and-out series on the next, before Incognito returned and finished out the game.

                                "I told (Incognito), I still have confidence in him," Spagnuolo said. "I don't lose confidence in a guy in one game. I think Richie's one of our passionate guys, I really do. He plays his butt off. It's just sometimes, you've got to temper that a little bit, that's all."

                                Incognito said he appreciated the support from the head coach.

                                "It does mean a lot to me," Incognito said. "I don't want to disappoint him. I've got the team riding on my shoulders on this one — they need me to stop committing fouls. It's something I've worked very hard at. And you come out here and it's first-game jitters. And you let one pop off."

                                (Actually two, in terms of personal foul penalties.)

                                "I'm going to keep working hard at trying to step my mental game up," Incognito said. "My physical game is there. I had a hell of a game. I played very well. But it's very disappointing to have it overshadowed by stupid mistakes."

                                Incognito has a history of personal fouls, and more than one opposing player over the years has referred to him as a dirty player. Make no mistake, NFL officiating crews are aware of his reputation as well.

                                "I know going out there on Sundays I'm being watched," Incognito said. "I know I'm a marked man. My reputation precedes me."

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                                By Bill Coats
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                                As popular as Richie Incognito is in the Rams' locker room, where he's venerated as a staunch defender of his teammates, he's equally ostracized around the NFL, where he's regarded by some of his adversaries as an unscrupulous hothead.

                                After Incognito was whistled for four penalties, including two personal fouls, in a 2007 game against Arizona, Cardinals defensive tackle Darnell Dockett said the NFL "is going to have to do something about (Incognito), because one day he's going to really injure somebody's career. The guy was trying to hurt some of our guys."

                                Last year, Seattle linebacker Leroy Hill noted that there are "just a few in the league who take cheap shots, go low at you when they're not supposed to go low, like when you're not looking. … He's one of them."

                                As a result:

                                — Opponents do what they can to get under Incognito's skin, trying to elicit a reaction.

                                "One of the fundamentals of the game is trying to exploit someone else's weaknesses," said CBS analyst Dan Dierdorf, a Hall of Fame offensive lineman with the old St. Louis Cardinals. "You realize where another guy is flawed and how to take advantage of that."

                                — Officials constantly keep a close eye on Incognito for any indiscretion.

                                "I know when I'm going out there Sundays I'm being watched," said the 6-foot-3, 324-pound Incognito, the Rams' right guard. "I'm a marked man."

                                Incognito, 26, said in the spring that he dedicated the offseason to trying to scrape away that reputation. "Just growing, being a more mature football player and eliminating the penalties," he said. "That's really the emphasis for me."

                                Yet Incognito already has re-ignited the furor by drawing two personal-foul calls in the Rams' 28-0 season-opening loss at Seattle.

                                Angry fans on sports-talk shows and Internet forums have called for his release, arguing that enough is enough. But first-year head coach Steve Spagnuolo is standing up for his man.

                                "I trust Richie — I like his passion," Spagnuolo said. "When the passion leads to penalties, that's not a good thing. But I'd rather have that problem than trying to motivate the guys to love the game of football."

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                                No one questions Incognito's love for football. "I care a lot about the game," he said. "I play with passion. I play with fire. And I play to win."

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                                Upon paying a visit to medical specialists in Los Angeles under the umbrella of Athletes Performance Inc., Rams guard Richie Incognito had an open mind about progressive, new-age treatments that might speed up his recovery from a Lisfranc injury in his foot.

                                But even a man as big and tough as Incognito has his limits.

                                “You go out there and they have this guy for this and this guy for this,” Incognito said.
                                “You want to do as much as possible and there’s some stuff, you think to yourself ‘Ehhhh, I don’t know if you are going to poke me with that needle right now. I am not feeling that.’ I was fine with the acupuncture but I saw him do this one to someone else. The needle goes in a little further, this, that and the other thing. This day and age, there are so many different ideas on getting healthy and so many different ways you can do it.”

                                In the end, all that really matters is that when you reach the end of the rehabilitation road you are healthy. And from early indications on Wednesday, Incognito has finally reached that point after suffering the foot injury way back on Oct. 25 against Indianapolis.

                                The road to recovery has been a long one, one that has been difficult for Incognito to watch, especially considering the team’s record.

                                When Incognito went on the shelf, the offensive line had just begun to click. Running back Steven Jackson had rushed for 134 yards against the Colts that day and the previous week against Jacksonville, Incognito and the line had allowed just a single sack.

                                All told, things were just beginning to get rolling for the Rams’ revamped offensive line and perhaps nobody was providing a more physical, set the tone attitude than Incognito.

                                Making matters more frustrating was the fact that the first game Incognito missed was the team’s first win of the season, a victory Incognito had to watch from home.

                                “It’s extremely tough to sit around and watch the team play,” Incognito said. “When I got injured, we were playing at such a high level. Then you get injured and you kind of push it aside and you are just sitting at home watching the Detroit game thinking I want to be there with these guys fighting for a win. It’s extremely tough as a competitor and it was a learning process. I have been injured before where it’s ended my season but I’ve never been injured before where I had to rehab, come back and finish the season. I am looking forward to finishing strong.”

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                                The frustration has passed for Richie Incognito. Now, he’s feeling antsy.

                                “There’s finally something to look forward to,” he said Friday. “It’s getting

                                Incognito, the Rams’ first-team right guard, has been sidelined since spraining
                                his left ankle Aug. 18 in an exhibition game vs. San Diego. He hasn’t
                                practiced, other than assorted individual work, since then.

                                The injury occurred high on the ankle, which extends the recovery period. Then
                                Incognito reaggravated the injury as he pushed to get ready for the
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                                “There’s really not a time frame for it,” Incognito explained. “You’re going to
                                progress, you’re going to get better, and then one day you’re going to feel
                                fine. I’m waiting for that day.”

                                It could come next week. “Hopefully,” he said. “We’re taking it day by day and
                                then we’ll re-evaluate where I am.”

                                The 6-foot-3, 330-pound Incognito, 24, sat out his first NFL season with a knee
                                injury. That experience has helped him deal with his current hiatus.

                                “You learn the value of patience and picking up as much as you can, getting
                                mental reps, staying with it,” he said. “Because if you get out of it, the
                                mental part of the game goes down, too. You’ve just got to ride the highs and
                                lows, and get better.”
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