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    Five Players that need to leave in 2010
    by ram_rod on Dec 29, 2009 4:34 PM CST in 2009


    So if this perennial injury bug has any positive, it's that we've been able to see what just about everyone on the whole team can do. Sometimes, you get pleasant surprises, like Danny Amendola or Craig Dahl. Sometimes, you see things you didn't want to see. So who should we expect to be shown the door this offseason? Here are five players that need to be sent packing if the Rams want to turn things around. Of course, having your head where the sun don't shine may have it's advantages...

    Firstly, the player that needs to go the most is Alex Barron. Throughout his entire career, he has shown everything that the Rams do not stand for. A general malaise and a disregard to understand that false starts aren't actually a good thing has made him a favorite scapegoat for this team. Jason Smith should have, could have and would have taken his spot at LT if he wasn't suffering the ill effects of a nasty concussion. Hopefully he will get better soon, as their will be a vacancy at that position after the season ends.

    Final Straw (If for some demented reason you still think he should be on the team): Drawing a penalty on the first play of the game on Sunday vs. the Cardinals.

    Next, you have the one and only Randy McMichael. Stone hands hasn't been much of a threat, and since Daniel Fells has shown enough (he is now on the IR), he will most likely be shown the door. With the receivers as inexperienced as they are, he was the only real veteran threat and could have really helped out this team (and anyone of the three QB's who've played) by stepping up and playing well. Instead, he got shown up by a undrafted two year pro. Nice Randy.

    Final Straw (If for some demented reason you still think he should be on the team): Anyone of his drops this year.

    Thirdly you have Jonathan Wade. Yet another bust of the Rams, he has done virtually nothing to help this team. Through 46 games, he has 63 tackles and a pair of INT's. It's one thing if you need more time to develop, it's a completely other thing when Quincy Butler, the workout warrior of the team, starts ahead of you. How many chances do you need? He started the season, was replaced by Fletcher, who subsequently was injured, and then couldn't even hold the job down against some low level free agent picks.

    Final Straw (If for some demented reason you still think he should be on the team): It might be the fact that he hasn't done anything, or the fact that the coaching staff hates him.

    Fourth is the one and only Samkon Gado. This guy's been somewhat of a mystery, as he had a good preseason by all measures (he is a backup, after all), had a relatively good camp and was thought to have been a good enough back to assist Steven Jackson. For whatever reason, he just hasn't been able to get it done. When your averaging 1.9 yards per carry, something is wrong. The offensive line, while inconsistent, just isn't that bad. This is definitely a priority for the Rams, because without Steven Jackson, they have nothing going on offense. Hopefully Spags will let Ogbonnaya play a bit more next week.

    Final Straw (If for some demented reason you still think he should be on the team): The fact that he can't ever convert 3rd and 1.

    The Last spot goes to the one and only Marc Bulger. Love him or hate him, he simply doesn't have the gas in the tank to continue to play. He's been injured and sacked so many times he looks like a cat on crack in the pocket. For his current salary, he is nowhere near the player we need him to be and quite possibly will never be. Unfortunately, it appears that time has caught up with him. His one saving grace is that the only other quarterbacks on the team, Kyle Boller and Keith Null (and that Mike Reilly guy) have virtually no experience. I'm excluding Boller here because well, he is Kyle Boller.

    Final Straw (If for some demented reason you still think he should be on the team): Too many injuries, level of play has dropped, and he isn't a 9 million dollar QB anymore.

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    Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

    Only person on that list who is debatable IMO is Bulger, then again his salary doesn't make it debatable. Good riddance to the rest.

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    • #3
      Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

      Agree with all of them, I would add Gorrer,and Darby and get a FA veteren RB to back up Jackson.

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      • #4
        Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

        i agree with these...i would probably throw carriker on that list over bulger, though with his contract he should be gone as well.

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        • #5
          Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

          Id like to see Carriker kept around for another year, to see how he gets on without being injured.

          Im not so sure on dumping Bulger as we may need a veteran QB to keep around to groom a drafted QB.

          I dont see any reason to keep Kyle Boller around.

          Im fed up with Barron's penalties so he can go.

          Gado i definitely want gone, ive never understood why he is in their on 3rd and 1s and 4th and 1s when we have Steven Jackson.

          Wade is a weird one because he was supposed to start after Hill went, but he didnt do anything and was quickly overshadowed by Brandon Fletcher. Then even after he went down its surprising to see King and Butler and even Gorrer play ahead of him.
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          • #6
            Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

            2 of the 5 I'm really iffy on.

            1. Marc Bulger: I would like to keep him around. Something tells me 2010 will big a good year for Marc. Can't explain why I feel that way other than I have faith in SPAGS and that he will put a better surrounding cast in place for Bulger. If anything he could help educate and groom his replacement.

            2. Alex Barron: I know the guy has penalty issues. (Maybe he needs a hearing aid for his left ear? He may not be a Pro-bowl left tackle but the guy is a workhorse and is very durable. With all the injuries our team has had to deal with the last several years we need guys that can play through injuries and Barron is one of them.
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            • #7
              Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

              But why pay free agent money for Barron when we could spend it elsewhere? With Smith oving over to LT spending money on Barron doesnt make much sense. Especially since he kills about a drive a game with his penalties
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              • #8
                Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

                Originally posted by laram0 View Post
                2. Alex Barron: I know the guy has penalty issues. (Maybe he needs a hearing aid for his left ear? He may not be a Pro-bowl left tackle but the guy is a workhorse and is very durable. With all the injuries our team has had to deal with the last several years we need guys that can play through injuries and Barron is one of them.
                I respect your opinion, but I just don't see how anyone can't say that Barron should stay. He's marginally better as the LT, but there is no way he can stay there with Smith on the roster. And he's *way* overrated by Rams fans. He gets beat consistently in the passing game (the sack he gave up on Sunday is a prime example) and the team shows no confidence in his run blocking. Even on Sunday with subs in on the entire right side of the line, they ran over the right side more. That's a trend for the entire season. When you add in that he is a drive killer with his penalties, I see no reason to keep him.

                The *only* thing I'd even consider with Barron at this point is to see if he'd be OK as a guard, where he's closer to the center and has more help. But he's really too light for that.

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                • #9
                  Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

                  Originally posted by chiguy View Post
                  I respect your opinion, but I just don't see how anyone can't say that Barron should stay. He's marginally better as the LT, but there is no way he can stay there with Smith on the roster. And he's *way* overrated by Rams fans. He gets beat consistently in the passing game (the sack he gave up on Sunday is a prime example) and the team shows no confidence in his run blocking. Even on Sunday with subs in on the entire right side of the line, they ran over the right side more. That's a trend for the entire season. When you add in that he is a drive killer with his penalties, I see no reason to keep him.

                  The *only* thing I'd even consider with Barron at this point is to see if he'd be OK as a guard, where he's closer to the center and has more help. But he's really too light for that.
                  Not to turn this into the Barron thread but if the price was right I would consider keeping him and here's why, Smith has had some trouble this year with injuries, I hope this was just a fluke thing but what if it isn't. If Smith has trouble with injuries next year then you have two new tackles on the O-line and could set the team back offensively. If you let Barron go I think we need to bring in an established FA to replace him. If you can find that type of guy who is willing to come here then by all means let Barron go because I agree he is overrated.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

                    Im sure we have more than 5 that NEED to leave

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                    • #11
                      Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

                      Originally posted by makersncoke View Post
                      Not to turn this into the Barron thread but if the price was right I would consider keeping him and here's why, Smith has had some trouble this year with injuries, I hope this was just a fluke thing but what if it isn't. If Smith has trouble with injuries next year then you have two new tackles on the O-line and could set the team back offensively. If you let Barron go I think we need to bring in an established FA to replace him. If you can find that type of guy who is willing to come here then by all means let Barron go because I agree he is overrated.
                      I couldn't have said it any better. (need to spread around the reps)
                      There are alot of "IFs" concerning the Barron situation but "IF" the price is right keeping him on board would be the insurance we would need in case of injury.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

                        Originally posted by 39thebeast View Post
                        Only person on that list who is debatable IMO is Bulger, then again his salary doesn't make it debatable. Good riddance to the rest.
                        The priority for Billy D. and Spags should always be to improve the team in any way possible. IMO, Bulger should be asked to take a significant cut in salary if management feels he's at all worth bringing back. This would free up money to bring in more veteran O-line help. If Marc refuses, then we look elsewhere. I don't think his level of play has been anywhere near justifying his current salary. Stay tuned on this one ..

                        We found Jason Brown last year, this year we've got to find a blue chip OT in free agency. I can't see overpaying Barron for another year. Think: IMPROVE THE TEAM!!! We will not be improving the team by keeping Barron on for another year of false starts, and whiffed blocks.

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                          Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

                          Originally posted by dave626 View Post
                          Agree with all of them, I would add Gorrer,and Darby and get a FA veteren RB to back up Jackson.
                          Yes, let's run hard-nosed and shifty prototypical third down back Darby out of town.

                          I mean, he's only racked up 248 yards in a measly 45 touches. He's only converted first downs on 15 of those touches.

                          Yea, and those 9 special teams tackles.

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                            If we let Barron go, I don't think we have to go out and sign a blue chip OT or use a top draft pick. I'm personally fine with Goldberg and Smith. Smith IMO would be an upgrade at LT and Goldberg is really underrated at RT and IMO is a better RT than Barron ever has been especially when it comes to discipline and run blocking. What I think Devaney will is let Barron walk let Smith and Goldberg start at tackle and then get the RT of the future in the mid rounds.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Five Players That Need To Leave In 2010

                              Originally posted by MauiRam View Post
                              The priority for Billy D. and Spags should always be to improve the team in any way possible. IMO, Bulger should be asked to take a significant cut in salary if management feels he's at all worth bringing back.
                              Yes you right but IMO he will not take a pay cut if ask and that will still force the rams hand to release him.
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