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    Earlier this year, the rams were on a drive to tie the game, Bulger scambled for 6 yards on 3rd down. They needed 7. The fans on here, the media, everyone threw Bulger under the bus, said he was slow, and he shoulda took the hit for the drive. Kyle boller, who's a better athlete, scrambled for 13 yards, we need 15. I want to hear fans rag on him like they did Bulger. But because savard, and farr, haven't said anything about it, I'm guessing all is forgiven.
    This brings me my point, it isn't Bulgers performance that gets ppl, its him. Fans just don't like him.

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    Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

    It could be that people expect Bulger to be a starter. Could be that he makes a lot more money than Boller. Or perhaps it's that Boller isn't suppose to be very good. It's also the last game of the season, and it wouldn't do much good to rag on a 3rd string QB. And I'm not sure how fans could personally dislike Bulger if (most likely) no one here has met him.

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    • #3
      Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

      first of all, bulger slid well short of the hit when he easily could have picked up the first...boller had to fight 2 guys to get to a yard short, and had no chance of picking up the first. much different situation.

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      • #4
        Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

        I was going to make a comment but the two post above nailed it.

        Draft Suh

        Go Rams

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        • #5
          Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

          We treated him just like Bulger. no time to throw, hurry ups and sacks etc. l

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          • #6
            Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

            They both are washed up ... enough said

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            • #7
              Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

              Bulger has much higher expectations than Boller though. They are both horrible but just saying.....

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              • #8
                Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

                I was screaming at him from the stands.
                Last edited by Guest; -01-03-2010, 02:22 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

                  Im gonna defend boller just like i did bulger. As a QB that is scrambling for the first down he cant see how far you need to go. Sure you can guess, but you are not sure. Also a Qb mentality is to throw the ball not run it, therefore you are not expecting to run when the play starts, unless the play calls for such a thing. It is a split second decision that you cant think through very much. A qb is not designed to take a hit by two lb'S. We all saw what happened to pat white today in pitt, that was just from a CB hitting him.


                  In short, give the guy a break, he isnt a good QB but he was trying to make somthing happen.

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                  • #10
                    Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

                    This is simply because the fans and media have made Bulger out to be the scapegoat. He will be that until the team gets better. I completely disagree that hes the reason for the rams terrible season but many fans will still use him as the scapegoat.

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                    • #11
                      Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

                      Originally posted by RamsFanThruItAll!!! View Post
                      This is simply because the fans and media have made Bulger out to be the scapegoat. He will be that until the team gets better. I completely disagree that hes the reason for the rams terrible season but many fans will still use him as the scapegoat.
                      Marc isn't the only reason. He may not even be the main reason. But he is a very strong contributor. The one or two games I saw earlier in the season, he looked like he was more concerned with the DL than he was the WR.

                      Does he have history that could justify focusing on the DL? Yes, if he wasn't one of the best paid QBs in the league. As a top tier (pay wise) QB, it is your job to focus on where the ball is going, not on who is trying to stop you from getting it there. I saw at least three phantom sacks in the games I was able to watch. If Bulger doesn't want to take those chances, he should return some of his salary. Until he does that, he deserves the criticsm he is getting.


                      gap

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                      • #12
                        Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

                        Boller's instincts were right, one more step and his block would've gotten knocked clean off. Referring to Bulger's play, he did his best 'Jim Everett' and got happy feet when he had a sure 1st down.
                        Difference between Boller and Bulger: Bulger SUX, But Boller SUX just alittle bit more.
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                        • #13
                          Re: treat Boller like you treat Bulger

                          Originally posted by AtlantaRamFan View Post
                          It could be that people expect Bulger to be a starter. Could be that he makes a lot more money than Boller. Or perhaps it's that Boller isn't suppose to be very good. It's also the last game of the season, and it wouldn't do much good to rag on a 3rd string QB. And I'm not sure how fans could personally dislike Bulger if (most likely) no one here has met him.
                          (Whispers in ear)

                          I have met Bulger. I thought he was quite shy and not a big fan of public speaking. He's a really sweet guy, regardless.

                          It was in 2005 at a Missouri Sports Hall of Fame luncheon in Springfield. I was his server. It might have been a few days early, but still best birthday ever.

                          To get back on topic, I actually put a bit more blame on the trainers that are supposed to help players minimize injuries as well as the QBs coach, since all three of our QBs had close to the same rate of failure. I DO treat all three QBs the same, because they all had little or no time in the pocket, they were all coached by the same staff calling the same plays, and they all had the same results. Bad, bad, and bad.
                          sigpicThis is for Randy! GO BRM!

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                            Who's starting today. I sure as heck hope Bulger is ready cause we saw the best out of Boller we can possibly see, with the Ravens and with us. If it hasnt gotten better yet then it wont get any better at all. We've seen the best out of Bulger and i'm counting on it happening again but we'll never know until he's in there learning how to play with this line. Last thing we need is to send Bulger packing for another team and he does a Kurt Warner.
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                          • ramzblood
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                            I think kyle boller has way more fire than bulger an he can run. bulger is flat.
                            -08-14-2009, 07:12 PM
                          • RamsFan16
                            Why are people so sure Bulger is set in stone as starter?
                            by RamsFan16
                            I for one do not believe that Bulger is set in stone as starter. Could he start for us next season? Obviously, but do any of us really know that? Boller was brought in, he's a younger QB with a rifle arm, good mobility and only average accuracy. As Bernie pointed out in his bits, during the time that Brian Billick was in Baltimore, they went through a lot of Quarterbacks, and all put up the same numbers and Boller never really had a good supporting cast outside of Lewis (for about a season), Odgen and Heap.

                            Boller never had that go to guy, or that supporting cast that a rookie needs to have to succeed and progress in this league. And some still feel that he could become a decent Quarterback if he is given the chance in new scenery. Bulger has been known to be fragile and injury prone, and he does take a lot of hits as well. And I feel that if given the chance, Boller could succeed with us. He's still got some untapped talent, he was as you know, drafted high in the draft so there are certain aspects of his game that he can still be coached to use well.

                            But not back to the post title, why do some of you folks feel as if Bulger is set in stone as the starter? If he was set in stone, and the staff was comfortable with him, why would there be speculation that we could draft a QB at #2, or even bring in a young Quarterback who has had some success, and that can still improve his game and become a good Quarterback?

                            Also, Spagnuolo has stated that if a player comes in and doesn't play well, or play with a good attitude that he'll sub in the spot, Bulger hasn't ever played with a great attitude and the past few seasons hasn't played well. I for one, do not believe Bulger is set in stone at Quarterback, and come training and mini camp, we could have a camp Quarterback battle. Bulger was extended before Spagnuolo got here, so I'd think Spagnuolo would put contract sizes aside and play whoever practices the best and grasps the offense better. Which, Boller came from a run heavy offense as well in Baltimore.
                            -04-05-2009, 07:02 PM
                          • rammiser
                            No one is blaming Boller?
                            by rammiser
                            Man if that was Bulger throwing those int's he would be getting ripped to shreds right now. Can Null possibly be that much worse than Boller at this point? Boller is the same guy he has always been. Inaccurate,inconsistant, but can scramble. Well Bulger haters wanted a qb who can scramble how is that working out for us? We only lost by 10 points to a terrible team. Boller throws a pic when he has a wr wide open and he under throws him. I thought boller was the strong armed qb? Sorry to say put Bulger in that same situation and that's a td not an int. Bulger is so much more accurate than Boller it's obvious.

                            I just find it funny no matter who is behind center the results are pretty much the same. This tells me the Rams woes are not solely on the qb. We managed to make Justing Forsett look like Barry Sanders. Our o-line is once again so banged up Boller was being hit before he could even set up in the pocket. Those sacks are his fault though he should be able to get out of the way of those big lineman (sarcasm off). Boller has heart, not any more or less than Bulger but he has less talent then Bulger.

                            I say throw Null in at qb if we can't beat Seattle with Boller there isnt a game left on the schedule that is winable. So why not give the kid a shot? I dont care if Boller gives us the best chance to win he has no future as a starting qb in this league. Null on the other hand can at least show us what he can or cant do. Starting Boller anymore is a complete waste of the fans time. Boller has not changed one bit since his days in Baltimore, and will not lead this team to victory. So that being said lets start Null PLEASE!
                            -11-29-2009, 10:14 PM
                          • eldfan
                            Bulger or Boller? That's not the issue
                            by eldfan
                            Bulger or Boller? That's not the issue

                            Sports Columnist Bernie Miklasz
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                            Rams backup quarterback Kyle Boller actually brought some energy and verve to a dead offense Sunday, performing assorted stunts and making a bunch of plays to shove the Rams in place for two touchdowns and a field goal to cut Green Bay's imposing lead to 23-17 in the third quarter.

                            Boller would cool down, of course.

                            He is Kyle Boller, after all.

                            Indeed, Boller faded down the stretch, and the Rams defense suffered serious burns, and at the end of the day we saw the same old sorry scoreboard: Packers 36, Rams 17.

                            Still, unless you're a hotshot prospect signed out of the Dominican Republic by the baseball Cardinals, you could see that Boller kick-started the Rams offense.

                            It was impressive while it lasted. Unfortunately for the Rams, it lasted only about a quarter and a half. During this stretch Boller completed nine of 14 passes for 100 yards and two touchdowns, scrambled twice for first downs to keep drives alive and got out in front of a running play to throw an aggressive block for Steven Jackson to fire up his teammates.

                            And just like that, the Rams flurried for 17 points after scoring only seven in the season's first nine quarters under regular starter Marc Bulger.

                            "Once he was out there, the team was moving the football," Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "In the end there, when the defense knows what you have to do, it makes it tough on any quarterback. But my gut feeling right now is that he managed the game and had the guys headed in the right direction."

                            Poor Bulger had to leave with a shoulder injury, and his status for Sunday's game at San Francisco is uncertain. But even if Bulger is healthy, Boller should start. That's obvious. At least he made some plays. At least he performed CPR on this offense. And if nothing else, Boller's mobility is a plus.

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                            The QB has no chance, we were told. OK, so why was Boller able to move the offense, finish drives with a punch and put points on the board?

                            I can't believe I'm getting worked up about this.

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