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  • Brian Cushing named Def. ROY - JL no votes

    Brian Cushing was named defensive ROY today. I have no problem with that, he had a great year. I also don't have a problem with Jarius Byrd being second (he also had a great year). What is surprising is that JL got no votes despite similar and only slightly lower stats than Cushing (JL has fewer overall tackles, but more individual tackles, about half Cushing's pass defended and interceptions, and only 2 sacks to Cushing's 5). Seems that a lot of emphasis is put on sacks as Matthews and Orakpo had less than half JL's tackles but had 11 and 10 sacks.

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    Re: Brian Cushing named Def. ROY - JL no votes

    I guess, in a way we are lucky to have JL and to pay him not as much.

    He would have been a top 5 pick if he came out the year before.

    Not too bad if you think about

    J.Smith
    JL
    Suh

    as our foundation

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    • #3
      Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

      Brian Cushing of the Texas won with Clay Matthews and Brian Orakpo getting votes.

      James Laurinaitis is fifth in the NFL in solo tackles along with 2 sacks, 2 interceptions, and 5 passes defended. I'm not sure he deserves to be higher than Cushing, but he is definitely deserving to be in second place getting some votes. He isn't exactly that type of defensive playmaker that the others are, but he is an absolute force on defense and nothing is getting past him. He is a complete constant and doesn't miss tackles or blow coverages. He is the most fundamentally sound rookie this year.

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      • #4
        Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

        one of those unfortunate things that go with being the worse team in the NFL ... good players tend to get missed ....

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        • #5
          Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

          Originally posted by RamDez View Post
          one of those unfortunate things that go with being the worse team in the NFL ... good players tend to get missed ....
          Henceforth known as Donnie Jones Syndrome.

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          • #6
            Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

            It happens when you play on the worst team in the league. =/

            We know he deserved it though! Good job James!

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            • #7
              Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

              Brian Cushing got 39 votes
              Jairus Byrd got 6
              Clay Matthews got 3
              Brian Orakpo got 2

              yes Laurinaitis had some good tackle stats, but didnt have much in the way of sacks, passes defended or interceptions.

              Laurinaitis had 2 sacks and 2 ints
              Cushing had 5 sacks and 4 ints
              Orakpo had 11 sacks
              Matthews had 10 sacks
              Jairus Byrd had 9 interceptions (joint led the league) starting only 11 games and missing two through injury

              Looking at these stats, im not surprised that he didnt get any votes
              @EssexRam_

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              • #8
                Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

                Me either Tomahawk...he played good defensively on a very bad defensive team. Those others contributed just as much or more on a better defensive unit.

                Not to say I am disappointed in JLau's play, just that those guys had a better year. So what? Put Suh on the Dline and watch both Laurinaitis and Long have better years with Suh getting the double team.

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                • #9
                  Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

                  Laurinaitis played great, but he didn't deserve defensive ROY. But that shouldn't detract from how well he played for us this year.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

                    In addition to won/loss record, the voters clearly overvalue sacks.

                    For example, Matthews had 10 sacks, but he also had only 51 tackles (compared to JL's 120), and had 9 games with 2 or fewer tackles.

                    I expect that JL will make several All-Rookie teams, as he was the top MLB of this draft class.

                    Oh, and by the way... to end an old debate, he had a much better year than Rey Maualuga.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

                      Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
                      Oh, and by the way... to end an old debate, he had a much better year than Rey Maualuga.
                      JL - 120 tackles, 107 solo, 2.0 sacks, 7 PDs, 2 ints., 1 FF, 1 FR
                      R Mau - 63 tackles, 39 solo, 1.0 sack, 3 FF
                      Curry - 61 tackels, 54 solo, 2.0 sacks, 2 FF

                      The race isn't even close.
                      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

                        I don't like those voting polls in the NFL site because the team with most bandwagon fans are bound to have their player win the award (just like the Pro-Bowl seeing Peterson > Jackson)
                        It's basically a popularity contest.


                        ♪ R.I.P. Nujabes ♫

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                        • #13
                          Re: Laurinaitis didn't even get a vote for defensive rookie of the year.

                          Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
                          In addition to won/loss record, the voters clearly overvalue sacks.

                          For example, Matthews had 10 sacks, but he also had only 51 tackles (compared to JL's 120), and had 9 games with 2 or fewer tackles.

                          I expect that JL will make several All-Rookie teams, as he was the top MLB of this draft class.

                          Oh, and by the way... to end an old debate, he had a much better year than Rey Maualuga.
                          The double spaced sentences really drives your points home. ;-)
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                          • #14
                            Re: Brian Cushing named Def. ROY - JL no votes

                            Also, because of the lack of talent on the Rams DL, if they werent double teaming Long the opposition OL would send a Guard or the Center to go at Laurinaitis
                            @EssexRam_

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                            • #15
                              Re: Brian Cushing named Def. ROY - JL no votes

                              JL had a great year but went unnoticed by alot of people. Cushing was a pro bowler. He deserved it unanimously.

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