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Without a doubt, the Cardinals are second fiddle to us. We get the headlines, good or bad and despite our poor play, this will always be a football town. Cards second fiddle. Go Rams!!!!!
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Welcome to the Clan (I think).
That has to be one of the oddest opening posts for a new member. First, though I'm not from St. Louis, my visits there have allowed me to observe that the Cards are unquestionably the most popular team in town.
Also, since your profile states you're from Canada, it seems strange that you'd come here to announce what kind of town St. Louis is.Last edited by AvengerRam_old; -01-07-2010, 06:31 AM. -
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You are correct in your observation, if the Cards are having a losing season they are still capable of drawing 3 mil fans for the year, obviously there is not the same support for the Rams or the Blues for that matter. The difference is though the Cards do compete most every year for a division title, as the Rams start to put a more competitive product on the field the fans will support them even if they don't always win. Fans just need some hope here that the team is trying.Originally posted by AvengerRam View PostsigpicComment
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Not only that, the Rams are AMERICA's TEAM! Put a winning product on the field and the fans will come. If not they'll show their displeasure by not attending games causing massive Blackouts. SAINT LOUIS, MISSOURI...FOOTBALLTOWN, USAsigpicComment
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Ive never even been to St Louis, but i know its a full on baseball town@EssexRam_Comment
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WOW! Is this an attempt at stirring up the pot or what?
I've witnessed the "RED SEA" (Cardinals fans) on a RAMS Sunday and they weren't walking towards the DOME.
GO RAMS!!!sigpic :ram::helmet:Comment
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O yes the RED SEA so very true, definitely a baseball town, no wait a baseball meccaOriginally posted by laram0 View PostComment
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Unfortunately, it's not. Ask a random person on the street what they think of Laurinaitis and they'll want a vaccine.Comment
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That's not an STD is it?Originally posted by The Rammer View PostsigpicComment
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I had it in college and I thought I was over it, but it crawled right back ;)Originally posted by The Rammer View PostComment
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No doubt about it. It's all about winning. Most cities strive off of this philosophy. Win, and the fans will come.
The Dome was selling out when we were contenders. These fans didn't just fall off the face of the planet, they want to see a winner. The economy is tight, spend your money elsewhere, where you will be satisfied. Going to the Dome to watch your team get decimated weak after weak isn't something TYPICAL fans do.
Look at the Cardinals. I have experienced it first hand. The Arizona Cardinals couldn't give tickets away. No one wanted to watch them because they were the Big Dead. Now they're back in the playoffs. Seats are being filled.
Thats the formula, you win, they will come.Comment
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Its actually much bigger on baseball my friend lol. I wish it was a football town, but untill we get better, it won't be!Comment
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I asked some guys in a St Louis shop if they had an Atogwe jersey and they did not know who he was. I think St Louis really is a baseball town.Originally posted by The Rammer View PostsigpicComment
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Even when we get better it will be a baseball town 1st.Originally posted by Ahmedrams81 View PostComment
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Football town? Hardly.
The company I work for has it's corporate offices in St. Louis. Whenever a group of corporate guys come out to visit I try to talk Rams football with them. Guess what? Not one of them in the 10 years I've work for this company and interfaced with the guys from St. Louis has shown any real interest in the Rams. They can talk about the Cardinals and occasionally the Blues all day long, but the Rams? They haven't a clue and don't seem to care.
...just an observation from here.Comment
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By Michael Reilly
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
Did St. Louis learn any lessons from losing the football Cardinals? It's hard not to wonder after seeing so many empty seats at the Rams' final two home games.
When the Cardinals left after the 1987 season, St. Louis was rather proud of itself. Frank Deford praised our town in Sports Illustrated for sending such a loser packing. "Good riddance" was the attitude, and no wonder. As any football fan here can tell you, the Big Red never hosted a playoff game.
But after a couple of years, reality set in. We had no NFL team. We missed it. And we paid exorbitantly to get the Rams after losing out to Carolina and Jacksonville in the expansion sweepstakes.
Now only the Detroit Lions are keeping the Rams from being the worst team in the NFL, and some fans are telling Chip Rosenbloom to take his team elsewhere.
There's plenty wrong with this picture, and with the idea that the Rams are the Big Red all over again. For starters, look at the obvious: The Rams won a Super Bowl. In 14 seasons here, the Rams have been to the playoffs five times and brought five playoff games to St. Louis.
The rap on the Cardinals was that Bill Bidwill was too cheap to win. Say what you will about the Rams, but cheap they aren't. If they've squandered millions of dollars on players who didn't produce, at least they've tried. They sign their draft picks in a timely manner, they have few holdouts, and they try to fill their needs through free agency, if seldom wisely in recent years.
It's one thing to withhold support from a team that doesn't care if it wins. It's another to turn your back on a team that has given this city more thrills than the Big Red ever did.
Yes, the Rams are terrible. The front office has been incompetent. But it's still NFL football, and if you're a fan of the game, there's plenty of entertainment to be had. If St. Louis doesn't want the Rams, some other city would love to have them.
Sure, the NFL probably is alone in expecting fans to show up no matter how bad a team is. It has the most popular product in U.S. sports, and that's the price of having a team. There's an arrogance about it and if you don't like it, fine, but that's the reality.
Isaac Bruce had it right last Sunday when he expressed his disappointment at the empty seats in St. Louis and pointed out that the Kansas City Chiefs are awful, too, but their fans still turn out. In a smaller market — and bigger stadium — the Chiefs are averaging 14,000 fans more than the Rams despite having an identical record.
The same goes for Pittsburgh, Green Bay, New York, Washington and lots of other places. They have had lousy teams at times, but their games aren't blacked out on local television.
The Rams haven't been here very long, really, not the generations it took...-12-29-2008, 04:28 AM -
That quote says alot about ST Louis fans. LA fans took years of Georgia's stupidity before there was a drop off. ST Louis fans were treated to a much , much better product. And after only 6 years off being an elite team ST Louis fans are jumping off the bandwagon.
Does this team suck? YES
Is Linny one of the worst head coaches ever? Yes
Does the front office seem clueless? Yes
Do ST Louis fans have a clue how good they have it? No
And that's sad, 'cuz after losing the Cards they should.
I took so much crap in Northern California through the 80's & 90's from a bunch of bandwagon Niner fans, but I stood by my team no matter what. I went to LA & SF to watch my team get smoked.
And it was a sad day when that ***** took my team from Cali. But the move allowed the Rams to make money & actualy TRY to put together a team. ST Louis fans supported the lousy Rams because they were excited to have the NFL back in town. They grew in numbers when Warner & Faulk led the Rams to the title.
And now less than a decade later ST Louis fans have shown me 2 things.
1. They are no better than Niner fans. Bandwagon fans suck!
2. Why the Cards left in the first place.
All you fans in ST Louis better remember & realise 2 things.....
1. LA lost the Rams & that city has a lot more going for it.
2. How did it feel when the Cards left town?
Wise up ST Louis fans.............
For better or worse, you'd better support your team. The ONLY person in power who gave a damn about being in ST Louis is dead & there are many Cities who would pay for the honor of having a NFL team.-09-08-2008, 12:32 PM -
I'm also a regular at a Cardinal forum called "Cardinal Heaven."
www.cardinalheaven.com
This season, a lot of people got sick of the Post Dispatch's Cardinal baseball forum (Cards Talk) and many of us migrated over to Cardinal Heaven.
It's really a great place to discuss Cardinal baseball because it's both a friendly atmosphere (no attacks, your opinions are respected) and a fun atmosphere (we joke around a lot, we're big into YouTube).
Anyways, I just wanted to take a moment to invite anyone who's interested to come and join us in discussing Cardinal baseball as they compete in the 2006 MLB playoffs this October.
The more fans, the merrier. Hopefully some of you find your way over. Because after all...Rams games are only once a week.
GO CARDINALS!!!-10-02-2006, 03:45 PM -
Lowly St. Louis Rams soar in TV ratings
11/06/2009
RAMS ROAR IN RATINGS
Bad pro football is better than good baseball — or any other sport, for that matter — to St. Louis television viewers this year.
Nielsen Media Research reports that the Rams' first victory of the season, on Sunday against the one-win Lions, drew a higher rating than any World Series game, all Cardinals regular-season contests and is about eight times greater than an average Blues telecast.
Nielsen says 17.8 percent of homes in the market with a TV tuned in to KTVI (Channel 2) for the tangle of the tinkerbells, making it the highest-rated Rams game of the season.
The top Cards game before the playoffs in a season in which they glided to the a division title was 16.3.
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The biggest draw for any sports franchise is a winning team.
However, some cities support their teams through thick and thin. I think its safe to say that St. Louis is not currently on that list of cities. While there is a loyal fanbase that attends home games, it is not large enough to prevent situations like yesterday's game in which the stands were filled with fans of the opposing team.
So how (again, other than the obvious answer of "winning more") do the Rams fix this problem?
I have a theory.
I think that downtown St. Louis is part of the problem. While, for someone like me, who attends one game a year and stays at a hotel within a couple of blocks of the EJD, its fine, I could understand why the locals might not be all that excited about fighting the traffic to come to the downtown area.
This is why I believe that the Rams will ultimately stay in St. Louis, but move out of downtown. There are sites that could be easier to access, and have sufficient land to build an array of modern hotels, restaurants, sports bars and the like near the stadium. I have to believe that this would be a draw for the local community, and would make going to Rams' home games an event, rather than an inconvenience.
Agree? Disagree?-11-25-2013, 08:19 AM
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