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  • After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

    ... are the Rams better off?
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    Yes, the Rams are better off.
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    No, the Rams are worse off.
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    No difference.
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  • #2
    Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

    Well basically to say anything besides "Yes" would be saying that they were better off with Linehan and Co.........

    nuff said?

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    • #3
      Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

      Vastly better off then linehan

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      • #4
        Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

        Better off yes, are we a better team, I'll hold my opinion untill later.
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        • #5
          Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

          I say no difference, just because of the one win...but however ask me this question at the end of the offseason and I will say yes we are better off...We already have a better fundamental mindset on our team

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          • #6
            Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

            To be precise, Line#%$ was gone well over 1 year ago (remember, he was fired mid-season).

            The question is more about whether you think Spags/Devaney have made progress in the last 12 months.

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            • #7
              Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

              No difference. Maybe worse. There is no talent on this team at the skill positions other than Jackson. Yesterday showed that a good offense will beat a good defense more than they will lose to one. It's the way of the new NFL. These guys better get some players at WR, QB, TE and RB (yes, it takes more than one in the NFL these days) or the Rams won't win more than 2 games next year. If that.

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              • #8
                Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

                I think we are better off. While "the purge" (see my sig) was painful, it was also necessary. The Rams can now move forward and build a team, rather than trying to hold on to the past. There are many holes, but the Rams have a star RB in Jackson, some young and improving players, and the draft choices and cap room (which, even in an uncapped year, has value for a team lacking unlimited resources) to acquire more talent.

                One year from now, if I ask the question again, I'm betting everyone will see the improvement.

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                • #9
                  Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

                  Originally posted by txramsfan View Post
                  No difference. Maybe worse. There is no talent on this team at the skill positions other than Jackson. Yesterday showed that a good offense will beat a good defense more than they will lose to one. It's the way of the new NFL. These guys better get some players at WR, QB, TE and RB (yes, it takes more than one in the NFL these days) or the Rams won't win more than 2 games next year. If that.
                  Hmm, lets see.

                  Jason Brown brought in, upgrade. James Butler, upgrade. Jason Smith, Upgrade. JLau, Upgrade. Releasing Draft (Older guy), downgrade i guess. Releasing Witherspoon (older guy) (downgrade) and acquired a promising young rookie and another draft pick to further our development. Laurant Robinson, upgrade. Releasing Cogs, upgrade.

                  The stable cleaning this team took this year will be better in the long run for sure. Got rid of older guys that did indeed help the team for the present but were cap hogs and on the decline in their career. Brought in fresh young talents at needed positions. Saw half of those acquisitions go down before we they could bear some real fruit.

                  So did the Rams overall get worse? Technically in terms of experience, yes. In terms of talent, no i disagree. We got more talent and bang for the buck and we really didn't get to cash in on it because of meddlesome injuries that crippled us. Our foundation is pretty much set. We're now in a position to add playmakers. One we weren't in last year as we needed even mroe than we do now.

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                  • #10
                    Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

                    I'd reserve my judgement for the later year, the best thing to do is have faith in the guy. He wants us to move forward, create our own legacy rather than keep looking back on the Greatest Show on Turf. He stands the test of time and the real question is, is he able to pull a Chuck Noll of 1969 Steelers or a Jimmy Johnson of the 1989 Dallas Cowboys?


                    ♪ R.I.P. Nujabes ♫

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                    • #11
                      Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

                      If 2010 is uncapped, the entire purge was a complete waste of energy and time and hurt the team's performance in 2009. I doubt they are really better off because of the lack of free agents that will be available.

                      If 2010 is capped, they might be better off but they did the easy part. Cutting players is easy and doesn't take a lot of skill. Evaluating talent and signing free agents that fit your mold is the tough part and it's all still a complete unknown.

                      The 2009 draft looked good for rounds #2, 3 and 4. Justin Smith is still a major question mark because he had such limited playing time.

                      As with rating the draft, you can't tell if we are better off until you look back 2-3 years later. The Rams will have a much clearer picture March 5th.

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                      • #12
                        Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

                        Clearly better off. If you can't see it .... maybe your blind?
                        If a team won their division seven straight times, that would be a NFL record. Now add on that team did it with seven different QB's in seven straight years,that record is unbeatable. To do that feat, you must of had a great Defense. Jack Youngblood was the captain of that defense.

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                        • #13
                          Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

                          I'm with Txsramfan, we're worse. Not because of Spags, I believe it has to do more with cleaning up the mess and starting from scratch considering that this situation had spun out of control before he even got there, even "IF" Linehan had a better record. I "DO" believe we will turn the corner with spags.

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                          • #14
                            Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

                            Defensively the nucleus is strong, young, and evident with OJ, Lauranatis, Long, Bartell, and Ryan. Upgrade over this time last year. The 0-line also a strong young group. One of the main problems on this team was injury and those young promising players getting hurt. The O-line could have become an even more dominant young line if Bell and Smith were healthy and Grecco had gotten the nod earlier. Also both Barron and Cogs getting the boot.

                            Health was a major issues. A healthy Robinson and Avery all year would have been great. All 4 of our young promising starters in the secondary were banged up 2 ending on IR. Bottom line guys like Robinson, Avery, Fletcher, Bell, Smith, and OJ stay healthy and Chris Long and Grecco playing more early in the year would have been paramount. Devaney and company would have solidified there young talent as major pieces for the future.

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                            • #15
                              Re: After 1 year of Spags/Devaney...

                              This is an easy one..........we're clearly better off now than we were 12 months ago.
                              The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                              • THOLTFAN81
                                Spags and Devaney: Retained or Fired at season's end?
                                THOLTFAN81
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                                by THOLTFAN81
                                For those of you who think that Spags is going to stay because of the injuries card I don't understand it. Didn't GB have Major injuries last year? More than we had, and went on to win the Super Bowl?

                                For those who think the injury thing than answer that statement with "Well, GB is more talented." Think about what you just said. Why is GB more talented? Because or GM has done a shotty job building this team. And our coach has done a shotty job coaching.

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                                -10-07-2011, 08:45 AM
                              • RamsSB99
                                Who is the Rams current MVP? Devaney.
                                RamsSB99
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                                by RamsSB99
                                I am so glad to have Devaney in charge I have felt like there has not been a guy within the organization that could make more right decisions then wrong since 1999. We have gone down a slippery slope. I have a lot of faith in Devaney and the path he has taken and think he is a good credible football guy. I think Devaney along with Spags will bring credibility to the organization again. Spags has the respect of many players around the league and that will help come free agency time. I am sure having Spags as head coach would be attractive for several defensive players such as Lito and maybe even a bigger fish like Peppers.
                                -01-17-2009, 01:25 PM
                              • THOLTFAN81
                                It's done: Spags and Devaney to be fired
                                THOLTFAN81
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                                by THOLTFAN81
                                Per rotoworld




                                Thank god the nightmare tenure is over. Heres to hiring competent people to turn this mess around....
                                -01-01-2012, 05:55 PM
                              • VegasRam
                                Wow - of the team Devaney inherited...
                                VegasRam
                                Rams Nation MVP
                                by VegasRam
                                ...in February of 2008, (and Spags a few months later), 10 remain.

                                That's 1 of 6 (if you include the PS), that are still here, and two are on special teams - Massey and Jones. (I thought Brown was here as well?)

                                5 are on D: Hall, Adeyanju, Ryan, Bartell and Atogwe.

                                3 on O...drumroll please...Jackson, Goldberg and Setterstrom.

                                Sett's been injured, Goldberg's a (very good, imo), back-up, and Jackson's Jackson.

                                That is pretty incredible guys - our entire offense, including depth, is new in the last TWO YEARS. (No wonder we went 2-1).

                                And this is a good thing. And that's why it sucks that there may not be a 2011 season, because that will (would have) be (been) the Rams' breakout year. 2010 is going to be the team's turnaround year, and I seriously could care less what our W-L record is this year.

                                I AM excited about, and looking forward to, watching this team come together, and start reaping the benefits of their hard work, and Spags' approach to coaching and rebuilding.

                                There's losing, and there's giving up. We're going to see a lot of losses next year, but not from lack of effort or desire to win. Count on it.

                                (This post brought to you courtesy of the (self-proclaimed) "Official Pollyanna" of ClanRam. All rights reserved. Opinions subject to change, but don't bet on it).;)
                                -06-29-2010, 11:16 AM
                              • unorthodox1999
                                Now what if something crazy like this happened??
                                unorthodox1999
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                                by unorthodox1999
                                ok this may get a little too prophetic, but

                                ...I guess the only thing im thinking about is this. I know its way too early and may be ridiculous, but I wonder what'll happen after Spags leaves. If this was certainly "Shaws" guy, and Devaney chose Garrett, maybe it was with good intention. Shaw being behind the whole deal could've thought, "Lets get the best guy out there, fill stadium seats & sell tickets again, fire people up, make the town happy etc., etc." While at the same time knowing the team will be sold in a matter of a year or two. (hence the escape clause by Spags)

                                So Devaney also knowing this could happen, would rather go with the person who is not as sought after, or "popular" at the time, figuring it'd be easier to let him go/switch head coaches under the new owner.

                                Now let me get to the point, what would happen if Spag just used this as a means to put a reputable effort under his belt of trying(and maybe doing so) to revive a lost franchise(bringing in the best coordinators and all), only to leave the team/organization worse than it was before due to the unexpected turn of events from having a coaching "titan" to being left with a linehan type. Withdraws so-to-speak.

                                Again, I know its probly too early and crazy to even fathom these events happening, but what if, just WHAT iF, Devaney all along was trying to prevent the hard fall of the organization, and instead its being set up for failure a few years down the road??..

                                thoughts...
                                -01-18-2009, 08:52 PM
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