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  • Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

    Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 26, 2010 10:46 AM ET
    Adam Schefter's St. Louis radio appearance heard around the Scouting Combine contained another interesting nugget that didn't include Sam Bradford.

    Schefter said teams have offered first-round picks for Steven Jackson in the past and the Rams could get that much if they wanted to deal him. (Schefter thought St. Louis wasn't likely to have interest in moving Jackson.)

    I asked Rams G.M. Bill Devaney Friday whether he'd be open to trading Jackson.

    "We need more players like Steven Jackson. We can't be poop-canning him out of the building," Devaney said. "We gotta more guys like that in. No, there is no talk about trading Steven Jackson and there won't be."

    We suddenly like Billy Devaney a lot more. All it takes is some vocabulary that matches our maturity level.

    From nbcsports profootballtalk

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    Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

    Poop-Canning
    Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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    • #3
      Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

      Seems Schefter is stepping in the poop can lately. I'm with Devaney, I don't want Steven Jackson going anywhere and we do need more like him.

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        lol, he said poop.

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          Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

          Now that's a statement I can get "behind".

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            Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

            Trading Jackson is the right thing to do. If you cant make those hard decisions then dont be a GM. We should have traded Bulger when he had some value, but Noooooooooo, we had to delay the inevitable and get nothing. The same thing is going to happen with Jackson. And I will be here to point it out when it does happen.

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              Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

              ^ Terrible, this post.

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                Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

                Picks have never made a team better. You've got to be able to acquire top-flight talent with the picks (hopefully, the ones you've got), not trade the only thing you have that resembles it, for picks

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                  Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

                  Originally posted by #39 Fan View Post
                  Picks have never made a team better. You've got to be able to acquire top-flight talent with the picks (hopefully, the ones you've got), not trade the only thing you have that resembles it, for picks
                  I beg to differ. Great long term teams build through the draft, picking good free agent players to mix in. We need a whole TEAM, not a great running back and nothing else. Jackson will help a TEAM that is on the verge of winning the superbowl, and at the same time help us build a new Team.;)

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                    Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

                    Trading Jackson is NOT the right thing to do. I say he's the best back in the league. To get 1400 yards behind OUR line? I can't think of anyone else that could come close. AP? That's a joke. Guy fumbled like 5 times in the game w/ the Aints. I LOVE SJ. Hope he retires here .... and not anytime soon!
                    If a team won their division seven straight times, that would be a NFL record. Now add on that team did it with seven different QB's in seven straight years,that record is unbeatable. To do that feat, you must of had a great Defense. Jack Youngblood was the captain of that defense.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

                      Originally posted by BEER View Post
                      I beg to differ. Great long term teams build through the draft, picking good free agent players to mix in. We need a whole TEAM, not a great running back and nothing else. Jackson will help a TEAM that is on the verge of winning the superbowl, and at the same time help us build a new Team.;)
                      Except you'd want to trade those players for more picks.

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                        Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

                        Originally posted by PeoriaRam View Post
                        Except you'd want to trade those players for more picks.
                        That would be correct.

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                          Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

                          Originally posted by Dwight Frye View Post
                          Trading Jackson is NOT the right thing to do. I say he's the best back in the league. To get 1400 yards behind OUR line? I can't think of anyone else that could come close. AP? That's a joke. Guy fumbled like 5 times in the game w/ the Aints. I LOVE SJ. Hope he retires here .... and not anytime soon!
                          We have a bingo.

                          SJax has lots more a## to kick. Here's hoping it continues to be for the 'horns

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                            Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

                            Originally posted by BEER View Post
                            Trading Jackson is the right thing to do. If you cant make those hard decisions then dont be a GM. We should have traded Bulger when he had some value, but Noooooooooo, we had to delay the inevitable and get nothing. The same thing is going to happen with Jackson. And I will be here to point it out when it does happen.
                            If trading Jackson is the right thing to do, how about you play GM for a day and tell us all in detail what you would do? I stress in detail meaning players names, what picks, which rounds, from what teams etc.

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                              Re: Devaney: We won't be "poop-canning" Jackson

                              Originally posted by ramsbruce View Post
                              If trading Jackson is the right thing to do, how about you play GM for a day and tell us all in detail what you would do? I stress in detail meaning players names, what picks, which rounds, from what teams etc.
                              Easy money. I would take a 1rst and a3rd for jackson. Depending who we trade with will come into account. The Patriots come to mind only because they have multiple picks in the 1rst. Clemson's RB SPiller comes to mind and the kid from Cal as well. But we do need every position . So maybe we go Oline. Maybe we go QB? The "POINT IS" We will never win more then 8 games
                              with Jackson. Period.<<<<<.. He will be the next Barry Sanders, just with the Rams. Let him win a superbowl with a validated team and let us build by the picks we get for him. Ask yourself this. What would you want if you were Jackson?

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                              • RamWraith
                                Here's how Devaney sees football
                                by RamWraith
                                By Bernie Miklasz
                                ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
                                Thursday, Dec. 18 2008


                                Bobby Beathard helped build Super Bowl champions in Miami and Washington. He
                                was one of the great general managers in modern NFL history, even though his
                                last job, in San Diego, ended poorly.

                                Billy Devaney was with Beathard in Washington and San Diego, witnessing the
                                good and the bad. He was a super scout for a brilliant Redskins team that won
                                three Super Bowls and 19 postseason games. The San Diego experience wasn't a
                                success, but Devaney learned from the mistakes.

                                I asked Devaney about Beathard's influence, and the most important lesson he
                                learned from his mentor.

                                "It's a team effort," Devaney said. "It's not about one person. It's players,
                                coaches, scouts, management, everyone in the building. You have to build
                                something together.

                                "Organizations win."

                                Organizations lose, too.

                                And with the Rams skidding with a 5-25 record over the last two seasons,
                                someone must step into the leadership void to create a new football
                                organization. Someone must take the lead role in changing the culture, changing
                                the direction.

                                Devaney, the Rams' executive VP of personnel, is in line for a promotion when
                                Rams owners Chip Rosenbloom and Lucia Rodriguez restructure the team's front
                                office after the season.

                                Devaney will head the search for the next coach, with Jim Haslett among the
                                candidates. He already coordinates the team's draft. And he will supervise free
                                agency.

                                Devaney hasn't been informed of the owners' plans for him. He does not want to
                                be presumptuous. He's sensitive to the perception that he's the GM in waiting
                                at Rams Park. Devaney emphasized that he's interested in doing one thing only:
                                contributing to a organization-wide effort to transform the Rams.

                                But if Devaney is asked to take over the football side, what can we expect?

                                In two separate interviews this week, Devaney articulated a vision for the
                                future.

                                Devaney wanted to make one thing clear: "We have a lot of good players," he
                                said. "We have components in place to build around. When I talk about
                                improving, it shouldn't be taken as an indictment of the 53-man roster."

                                Here are some of Devaney's key philosophies:

                                Beef up the scouting department. He believes the Rams have a good staff of
                                college scouts. But he'd like to see more manpower dedicated to the pro
                                personnel department.

                                Beef up the roster. "The team needs to get bigger, physically," Devaney said.
                                "The team needs to be tougher, physically and mentally. This is a tough, nasty
                                ...
                                -12-18-2008, 05:28 AM
                              • RamBamThankYouMam
                                A little frustrated with Devaney
                                by RamBamThankYouMam
                                Let me start off this post by saying I am very happy with the Rams offseason thus far. None of the moves made have been flashy, but they all fill an area of need for the team. I was never one of the fans who wanted Devaney to get Bush or Sproles, but Norwood seems like a joke to me. I know what Norwood is capable of but the injury risk seems to high to me. Devaney has admitted countless amounts of times that he has ignored back-up running back for too long, and then his solution is an injury waiting to happen in Norwood. To me this shows that Devaney is just making the same mistake in years past. Maybe Norwood works out if he is signed, maybe he gets injured the first game of the season, I dont know. What I do know is Devaney has learned nothing from his past mistakes.
                                -08-02-2011, 11:14 AM
                              • AvengerRam_old
                                Bill Devaney - Preliminary Evaluation
                                by AvengerRam_old
                                I've seen a few posts in which Devaney has been included in the category of "inept front office." I think he's more accurately described as part of the solution, rather than part of the problem. Here's how I see him:

                                The Draft
                                It is always difficult to evaluate a draft this early, but I think the initial reviews have to be positive overall. Chris Long is playing hard, despite the team's problems, and he shows a great deal of promise. The selection of Donnie Avery was widely criticized, but his play has turned a lot of people around. Greco is just starting to get a chance and looks like he could be a valuable asset in the future. Justin King looked promising before he was hurt. Vobora and Chamberlain are good special teams/depth guys. In my opinion, so far so good.

                                Free Agency
                                With the ownership transition and Coach Line%@# on the hot seat, the Rams were a tough sell for free agents last offseason. Josh Brown was a great signing which will pay dividends for years. Jacob Bell has been a major disappointment, but I don't see how you can fault Devaney for failing to foresee his weight loss. I think you can critique Devaney for not making more of an effort to bolster the linebacking corps in FA, though there were not too many candidates.

                                Trade Market
                                Hindsight is 20/20 here, and some will argue that the Rams should have traded for Kris Jenkins, who has had a great year in NY. The price paid by the Jets (a 3rd and 5th round selection) was affordable, but don't discount the fact that it also cost them a 4 year, $32M contract (with $20M guaranteed) - all for a guy who is 29 and has had a history of injuries.

                                Retention of Players
                                Despite a disappointing season, I fully support the decision to sign Steven Jackson to a long-term deal. With his age and productivity (when healthy), this was a no-brainer. Hopefully, he'll make it his mission to get in the best shape of his life and play 16 games next year. If he does, I'll put pretty good money on Jackson being in the top 3 in yards from scrimmage. Devaney faces some big tests in this department soon (Atogwe, Bartell, Incognito, Adeyanju). It will be interesting to see how these negotiations go, particularly in a post-Zymunt Front Office.

                                All in all, I think Devaney has demonstrated the ability to be an effective GM. I see no reason to throw him out with the bath water.
                                -12-10-2008, 10:23 AM
                              • mde8352gorams
                                Billy Devaney
                                by mde8352gorams
                                In case anyone was wondering what happened to Billy Devaney since he left the Rams, I can report he has surfaced on ESPN as an NFL analyst and will appear regularly on NFL Insider which begins airing on Aug 5th. I bear no malice towards him, he just couldn't get it done for us with his "diamond in the rough" strategy. I wish him well.

                                Go Rams!
                                -07-16-2013, 02:33 PM
                              • Bralidore(RAMMODE)
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