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    BY JIM THOMAS
    ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
    05/02/2010

    Consensus all-American. ... Big East defensive player of the year. ... Finalist for the Ted Hendricks Award and the Bronko Nagurski Trophy.

    The Touchdown Club of Columbus named George Selvie college football's top defensive lineman. The Sports Club of Tampa Bay named him Tampa's amateur male athlete of the year.

    It's hard to imagine a college defensive lineman garnering more laurels — and having more success — than Selvie did in 2007 at the University of South Florida. He finished second nationally that season in sacks (14 1/2) and registered an astounding 31 1/2 tackles for loss.
    A sophomore at the time, Selvie got to know Virginia defensive end Chris Long on the postseason awards circuit. A few months later, the Rams made Long the No. 2 overall pick in the 2008 draft. Two years later, the Rams drafted Selvie.

    "(Long) called me after I got drafted and told me congratulations, glad to have you, and stuff like that," Selvie said.

    Unfortunately for Selvie, he went 224 spots later than Long, lasting until the seventh round in last weekend's draft.

    "It was tough at first not hearing my name called until the seventh round," Selvie said. "I was kind of distraught at first, but now I'm good. I'm happy to be here. I'm glad to be a Ram."

    There's no easy answer for Selvie's decline in production during his final two college seasons.

    Bothered by a high ankle sprain much of the '08 season, Selvie's sack total fell to 5 1/2. Nonetheless, he was projected as a late first, early second-round pick had he turned pro. But Selvie returned for his senior season at South Florida, and registered only 3 1/2 sacks.

    Does he second-guess himself for not leaving after his junior season?

    "Everybody asks that," Selvie said. "Sometimes it crosses your mind. But I always say I can't regret what's in the past. I can't do anything about that. I've just got to make the most of my opportunity now."

    When you get 14 1/2 sacks in any league, you're going to get extra attention from opposing blockers the following year. According to the South Florida sports information department, Selvie was double-teamed on 53 percent of the pass plays he participated in during the '08 season, and was triple-teamed eight percent of the time.

    And last season, even with the emergence of Jason Pierre-Paul at the other end position for South Florida, Selvie said he got plenty of extra attention.

    "I still got double-teamed," Selvie said. "They didn't forget about me. ... Even till the end of the season with Connecticut, they were chipping on the last play of the game. So that's the way it went down last year."

    Rams general manager Billy Devaney said injuries weren't an issue for Selvie last season. "He just didn't have the year that he expected to have," Devaney said. "But he still has a lot of athletic ability. We think he's got a lot of upside as a pass rusher."

    During the pre-draft process, the Rams looked at a lot of tape of Pierre-Paul, who ended up going No. 15 overall to the New York Giants. But they kept noticing Selvie.

    "We were watching the other guy a lot, and 95 (Selvie) kept showing up," coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "He'd flash as a pass rusher."

    So 19 picks into the seventh round, with the 10th of their 11 picks, the Rams made Selvie their third defensive end taken on Day 3 of the 2010 draft. (They also took ends Hall Davis of Louisiana-Lafayette in Round 5 and Eugene Sims of West Texas A&M in Round 6.)

    "This particular day in the draft, there's going to be — I wouldn't call them flaws, but deficiencies here and there — and you hope to make those a little bit better," Spagnuolo said. "There's something we see in all of these guys that led us to grab them."

    On the minus side of the ledger for Selvie is his lack of size. At 6-4, he spent most of his college career playing below 250 pounds. Try as he might, he has trouble putting on weight.

    "High metabolism, I guess," he said. "I eat. I eat well. So I don't know what it is. Hopefully, I'll just get some weight on as I grow older."

    He weighed in at 255 pounds when he reported to Rams Park for the rookie minicamp this weekend. That's the heaviest he's been in his life, but still on the small side for a defensive end in a 4-3 scheme.

    And in terms of timed speed, Selvie was clocked at only 4.9 seconds in the 40-yard dash, far from ideal for an edge rusher. But Selvie does have a quick first step, and a non-stop attitude.

    "Selvie's got a motor — a lot of people, they should know that by now," said cornerback Jerome Murphy, Selvie's teammate at South Florida and now his teammate in St. Louis as the Rams' third-round draft pick. "He's not going to quit. He's going to speed rush. He's going to do whatever he's got to do to get to the quarterback."

    By NFL rule, full contact and full pads are forbidden during minicamp sessions. So it has been difficult for Selvie to show his stuff this weekend.

    But Spagnuolo has seen some explosion and pop in Selvie on the practice field.

    "Now, he's got a long way to go," Spagnuolo said Saturday afternoon. "He's got some things he's got to learn. He's probably not the ideal size right now. If he can learn a few more things and get his body right, I think he'll be a pretty good player. But that's off of three days in non-pads, so I'm treading lightly."

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    Re: Rams take a chance with Selvie ..

    One just will not know at this point if Selvie is a keeper or not.

    But I wonder with this kids "athletism" and 4.9/40 not to mention his 6'4 height that the Rams try him out as a MLB especially if he has issues keeping the weight on?

    If he has a motor, I can see potentuals as a MLB for pass rushing situations and could cover 2 and 3 gaps against the run

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      Re: Rams take a chance with Selvie ..

      So 19 picks into the seventh round, with the 10th of their 11 picks, the Rams made Selvie their third defensive end taken on Day 3 of the 2010 draft. (They also took ends Hall Davis of Louisiana-Lafayette in Round 5 and Eugene Sims of West Texas A&M in Round 6.)
      I like Selvie. One of our most exciting picks after Samuel. However, the bold highlight above kind of brings reality crashing in.

      Not only does this kid have an uphill road to grade on this roster, but the Rams apparently see him as the 3rd best rookie DE. There may only be 4 or 5 DEs on the roster, and right now you rank THIRD among just rookies! That's a serious uphill battle, George.
      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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        Re: Rams take a chance with Selvie ..

        Originally posted by HUbison View Post
        I like Selvie. One of our most exciting picks after Samuel. However, the bold highlight above kind of brings reality crashing in.

        Not only does this kid have an uphill road to grade on this roster, but the Rams apparently see him as the 3rd best rookie DE. There may only be 4 or 5 DEs on the roster, and right now you rank THIRD among just rookies! That's a serious uphill battle, George.
        i hear ya Hub..though i think they could see Hall Davis as a UT in the Pro`s or atleast someone to move inside like Tuck,Hall,Long etc..have done and just leave Long and Hall on the outside.
        Sims needs to bulk up more than Selvie does so Sims could end up spending the year on the PS. leaving Selvie as the 4th DE behind Long,James Hall & Victor... with Selvie as a situational Pass rusher.

        it will certainly be interesting to see how it all pans out..

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          Re: Rams take a chance with Selvie ..

          Originally posted by HUbison View Post
          I like Selvie. One of our most exciting picks after Samuel. However, the bold highlight above kind of brings reality crashing in.

          Not only does this kid have an uphill road to grade on this roster, but the Rams apparently see him as the 3rd best rookie DE. There may only be 4 or 5 DEs on the roster, and right now you rank THIRD among just rookies! That's a serious uphill battle, George.
          That's what stood out to me as well. Funny how we need to see it written down to really realize that two other folks were thought of more highly than Selvie. We'll see how he pans out, but I think we should realistically expect at least a couple years of development before we start to see real production out of him, rather than starting from day one as some on here have already projected.

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            Re: Rams take a chance with Selvie ..

            Originally posted by shower beers View Post
            That's what stood out to me as well. Funny how we need to see it written down to really realize that two other folks were thought of more highly than Selvie. We'll see how he pans out, but I think we should realistically expect at least a couple years of development before we start to see real production out of him, rather than starting from day one as some on here have already projected.
            You're right, beers. And to tell you the truth, I don't know that he will ever be a true "starter". He may be nothing more than a single-minded pass rusher. I could see the possibility of him leading the team in sacks without "starting" a single game, one year down the road.
            The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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            • MauiRam
              Rookie Selvie shows his pass-rushing skills ..
              by MauiRam
              BY BILL COATS Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:05 am


              Eager to improve their pass-rush off the edge, the Rams grabbed a trio of defensive ends in April's draft. The one picked the latest has made the earliest impression.

              George Selvie, a two-time All-American at South Florida, was a seventh-round pick (No. 226 overall). He said he initially was "distraught" that he wasn't taken higher.

              But that emotion has passed, he said. "I'm just glad to be here, glad to be a Ram," Selvie said. "I'm just going out there and having fun, just doing my thing, just playing football."

              Though a bit undersized at 257 pounds, the 6-foot-4 Selvie has been giving the offensive linemen fits during one-on-one drills at training camp with his ability to slither past them and into the backfield. Selvie was credited with a team-high two sacks in Saturday night's scrimmage at Lindenwood University.

              "I could've done more stuff, played the run a little bit better," Selvie said. "But overall, I think I had a decent scrimmage."

              Running down quarterbacks is nothing new for Selvie. He had 29 sacks in college, including a stunning 14½ his sophomore season, when the Touchdown Club of Columbus named him college football's top defensive lineman.

              Bothered by a high-ankle sprain the following season, Selvie dropped to 5½ sacks. He got just 3½ as a senior, when he regularly was double- and triple-teamed.

              Selvie's stock plummeted, but his pass-rush skills apparently remained intact.

              "He's a long guy that's got really good get-off," coach Steve Spagnuolo said. "On those plays he had (at the scrimmage), it was all getting off the ball. He's obviously been taught well. That's the first thing for a defensive end, to get a good jump on the ball. He has that."

              Once he engages a blocker, Selvie relies on a variety of moves to get past him.

              "I try to have a little bit of everything ... be versatile," he said. "If I need to bull-rush, I'll bull-rush. But ... I'm a small guy; I don't want too many hands on me."

              In addition to the veterans, Selvie is competing with fellow draftees Hall Davis of Louisiana-Lafayette (fifth round) and Eugene Sims of West Texas A&M (sixth).

              According to Spagnuolo all three have flashed pass-rush ability but need to improve vs. the run.

              "We're just taking our turns and showing what we've got," Selvie said. "It's good competition, and I think we're handling it pretty well."

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              -08-10-2010, 09:28 AM
            • Richbert88
              George Selvie
              by Richbert88
              Found this interesting, as it reinforced my feelings about this pick and how pleased I am with the current reports on his progress and performance.

              George Selvie is This Years 7th Round Sleeper
              By Shane Smith
              Aug 112010


              Every season a few late round picks finds a way to separate themselves from practice squad obscurity to major contributor for their respective franchises. We have seen role players and even a few superstars come into their own rather quickly after being selected in the last couple of rounds ala Marquis Colston and Tom Brady. This season I believe I have found a player out of the Big East who will make an immediate impact on his team after being selected in the 7th round. That player was a draft choice of the St Louis Rams and his name is George Selvie.
              Selvie played for the South Florida Bulls and was a force to be reckoned with in his entire collegiate career. For as long as I can remember watching Selvie go up against the UCONN Huskies it always seemed like he was a man among boys. Up until last season the USF defense was anchored by Selvie until Jason Paul-Pierre fully developed. Teams would create offensive stratigies and blocking schemes that were aimed toward keeping Selvie the 7th round pick at bay rather than Paul-Pierre the 1st round pick. Both players have incredible size, talent, and heads for the game, but it was Paul-Pierre who was given a better chance to excel when teams spent most of their energy protecting themselves from Selvie.
              When you first look at Selvie it is easy to see how and why he is an NFL player. The fact that he slipped all the way to round 7 is kind of shocking to anyone who has followed the Big East for the past couple of years. Selvie hits hard, makes good reads, and is quick for a man his size. He is not only impressing coaches for being a competitor out of round 7 who could make the team, but hes making a statement that he should be out on the field for the first snap in week 1. Of all the teams in the NFL the Rams are probably the one that is most filled with roster spots that could be seized by a young guy whose busting his butt. Selvie has had several highlight reel plays since entering camp and would have had two sacks in practice the other day if Quarterbacks weren’t strictly off limits. So heres to you George Selvie, I hope you can end this season with a starting job that will represent the Big East well and more importantly make me look intelligent for predicting a relatively unknown sleeper.
              -08-16-2010, 10:18 PM
            • BarronWade
              Does Selvie and Sims affect our 1st round pick?
              by BarronWade
              Last we drafted 3 DEs: George Selvie, Eugene Sims, and hall Davis however we traded davis.

              Sims and Selvie played some pretty good football. Selvie played in all 16 games and recored 21 total tackles and 1.5 sacks. Sims on the other hand played in 9 games and did record a safety. They both showed promise. Selvie showed potential to possible become a starter while sims looks to be a good rotational DE.

              Lately it seems its been a battle of Corey Liuget vs. Aldon Smith.

              Do you guys feel Selvie and Sims will have any impact on this battle? Lets say the Rams rated both these guys evenly do you guys think Liuget will be the pick because we are deep at DE?
              -04-11-2011, 12:52 PM
            • sdobbers
              Selvie
              by sdobbers
              How's he been doing this year? Has he been getting much playing time? I haven't heard too much about him lately...
              -12-06-2010, 05:23 PM
            • tomahawk247
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              by tomahawk247
              BY BILL COATS
              ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
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              Viewing tape of his first two-a-day practice session at the University of Houston, Fendi Onobun was shocked. "I looked terrible," Onobun recalled.

              That inelegant outing occurred eight months ago. Much has taken place since then, capped by Onobun being chosen by the Rams in the sixth round of the NFL draft last week.

              "It was just after the last pick of the fifth round. My phone rang and I saw the 314 area code," Onobun said. "They said, 'Hey, we're going to be picking you with our next pick.'

              "That was it right there."

              "It" was the culmination of an improbable journey that took Onobun (pronounced AH-no-bun) from the basketball courts at the University of Arizona to the football field at Houston to a shot at an NFL career.

              Before the 2009 season — during which Onobun, a tight end, caught just two passes for 33 yards — he had not played football since he was a seventh-grader at O'Donnell Middle School in Houston.

              "We're taking a flier, guys," general manager Billy Devaney conceded after the Rams selected Onobun with the 170th overall pick. "We know that. It's a project in its truest sense."

              A project that could produce dividends, according to coach Steve Spagnuolo.

              "I think it was well worth the chance, because he's got great skills and a great body," Spagnuolo said. "The unknown is, you're talking about a guy who didn't really play a lot of college football. Can he get on this stage, with a helmet and pads on and knowing you're going to get hit the minute you catch it?

              "There's a lot going forward that we need to find out. And we're still not going to know that after this minicamp, either."

              The 6-foot-6, 252-pound Onobun, 23, will get his first look in full gear during the three-day rookie minicamp that begins today at Rams Park. If he performs anywhere near the way he did in shorts at his pro day and during a private workout with the Rams, Onobun will bear watching.

              "We heard his numbers were off the chart" at the pro day, Devaney said, so he dispatched tight ends coach Frank Leonard and scout Steve Kazor to Houston just two days before the draft to put Onobun through the paces.

              "They came back and said athletically, he's phenomenal," Devaney reported.

              "They gave us the film and I watched it," Spagnuolo said. "I was like, 'Wow!'"

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