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    Anyone else notice during the MNF game last night John Madden talking about Jeff Fisher? He was saying that Fisher started out with the Rams and that John Shaw really wanted him as the next head coach of the Rams. Apparently Georgia wouldn't go for a head coach that was only 33 years old and the Rams wound up re-hiring Chuck Knox.

    Now, I can't stand Fisher but I think he might have been a lot better choice than Knox at that point. I wonder what other changes would have occurred if Fisher would have taken over. I haven't really followed the Oilers/Titans closely enough to know what kind of draft picks he might have made, etc. It's definitely interesting for me to think about as the second coming of Chuck Knox was the beginning of the dreaded worst team of the 90's era for the Rams.

    Anyone else have any good "coulda-beens" for the Rams?

  • #2
    Re: What could have been...

    I heard that also last night and thought it was kind of interesting. The only that I could say is that we probably would have become a defense first team and that we would have played hard all the time. I say that because that is what the Titans are.


    • #3
      Re: What could have been...

      Thanks, Moklerman.

      1971: Coach George Allen, one of my all-time favorites, could have remained with the L.A. Rams -- instead, he was released by then owner, D. Reeves and transferred (along with several Rams) to the Redskins.


      1969 could have been our first Super Bowl win. That season we won our first 11 games... Count them, undefeated 11 straight games.



      • #4
        Re: What could have been...

        I remember as a season ticket holder in Anahiem yelling in frustration at Fisher and the defense a lot. Why I remember that I have no idea. I'm sure the team would have taken quite a different road if he was named head coach.

        My big "coulda-been" has always been Eric Dickerson. He was such a force and such a perfect fit with the Ram offense at the time, it kills me to think of how great the team could have been if he had stayed, especially with an emerging Jim Everett.


        • #5
          Re: What could have been...

          Yeah, the whole Dickerson fiasco brings back bad memories. From what I can remember he basically wanted to be the highest paid rb in the NFL (rightly so) and the Rams refused. Then, to top it off they go out and draft Todd Lyght and pay him more than what Dickerson was asking.


          • #6
            Re: What could have been...

            I don't know if I could stand seeing that mullet on the sidelines every game day.


            • #7
              Re: What could have been...

              Ferragamo not going to Canada. He had the team behind him after the superbowl season and next. Georgia struck again...

              GO RAMS


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                Why I want Fisher as our HC
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                Why Fisher, let me start by saying I still want Mike here, but it looks like it’s a done deal. So why Fisher, defensive coach, younger coach with 11 year as a head coach don’t ,want a college coach that does not have a clue about the NFL.

                Some numbers on Fisher from his BIO

                98 victories and has amassed more regular season wins than any AFC head coach over the last six seasons with 61. He ranks third overall in the NFL behind Tony Dungy (64 wins, 30 in the NFC) and Andy Reid (63 wins). Fisher led the Titans to four playoff appearances (1999, 2000, 2002, 2003), two Division titles (2000 & 2002), two AFC Championship Games (1999, 2002) and one Super Bowl berth (XXXIV). (61 regular season wins and 5 postseason wins). Last year, he became the fourth youngest coach (46) to win 90 regular season games since 1960. Only John Madden (41), Don Shula (41), and Bill Cowher (44) were faster to 90 wins.

                Former player…

                A former defensive back in college at the University of Southern California, Fisher played for Robinson in a star-studded defensive backfield that included future NFL stars Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith and Joey Browner. Former Titans offensive lineman Bruce Matthews also was one of Fisher’s USC teammates. Fisher’s career statistics included five interceptions and 108 tackles. The versatile Fisher also served as the Trojans’ backup kicker and earned PAC-10 All-Academic honors in 1980

                Hallmarks of a Fisher-led team include stout rushing defense, the ability to possess the ball with a strong running game and poise in the midst of adversity. In nine of the last 10 seasons, the Titans defense has ranked in the top 10 against the run and they are the only team in the NFL that can boast such a streak. In 2003, the Titans finished first in the NFL in rushing defense for only the second time in franchise history (1993).

                In 1991, Fisher headed west to be reunited with his college coach John Robinson, serving as the Los Angeles Rams’ defensive coordinator. “Come home Fisher”.

                He is a University of Southern California, guy! Shaw lives here…maybe he can reach this idiot.

                He young with a ton of experience, I think you have to be young to relate to theses players today. I think he can get the Max out of SJ and build a D that can PLAY.
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              • FestusRam
                A few key reasons why Fisher WILL take us to the promised land.
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                Theres no doubt Fisher has been far and away the best acquisition during the early offseason. Landing Fisher will prove to be the biggest piece to the puzzle to making the Rams a perennial powerhouse. I want to touch on a few reasons im confident that I havent seen mentioned to often(I could have missed it though). I hope that some of the skeptics will read this and realize the situation we are currently in.

                1. Fishers coaching record and his second time around. Sure, Jeff Fisher in 17 seasons had a solid record, but thats not even the point. This record is impressive for a first time head coach dealing with an awful relocation and an owner who liked to sometimes make calls he shouldnt be making. The point here is, that his second time around, you would think his chances of bettering his record is high. After seventeen years of head coaching, he knows alot on every level of the game. No learning on the job, hes already got that down. Why wouldnt his second tenure go better than the first with all the experience under his belt coupled with an owner who plays to win and has more than enough mula?

                2. The quality of coaches pouring in. Look, at the end of the day, were just fans. We dont know how good any coach is at every facet of the game on and off the field. You know who has the best idea of the quality of a coach? Other coaches. It speaks volumes on how well respected Fisher is when he lands basically every coach he desires. Coaches with experience too. They have to believe in him to come to an organization thats been so pathetic. Dave Mcginnis spoke about how well Fisher knows every level of the game. He couldnt wait to be a part of Fishers staff once again. Thats gotta give everyone some confidence.

                3. Players love playing for the man. He has already proven in Tennessee he will get the most out of his team on gameday. Fisher is an ex-player himself. Players know that Fisher knows what theyre are going through. Thats a huge common ground to immediately have with every player you coach. I love the reports I get about how his teams have fun but put in the work they need to. What a great atmosphere for players to come into. That Mayne Event special he did was hilarious. Fishers also very personal with his players. He gets to know them and shows he cares for them. They'll be playing hard for Fisher every chance they get. Hes going to bring in some talent in FA as well as he rebuilds the teams.

                The futures bright for the Rams boys and girls
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              • Rambos
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                St. Louis --

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                "We hate the Niners still," Dickerson said. "That hasn't changed."

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                “You point out exactly what happened, then you move on,” says Fisher. “Players don’t make mistakes on purpose. After a tough Sunday, you still want them to look forward to coming to work on Monday.”

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                But not to Fisher, who called Dickerson recently to express his misgivings before telling the former Rams great if he kept up the criticism, he'd no longer be welcome on the Rams sideline as long as Fisher was the head coach.

                To which Dickerson told me Monday night: “I lit into him after he told me that. I told him: 'You can go back to Tennessee, you can go to Cleveland, you can go to USC or wherever else you might go. But I'm always going to be Eric Dickerson of the Los Angeles Rams. And I have the right to say what I say.’”

                Dickerson said Fisher tried to walk things back at that point, telling him he would always be welcome on the sideline. But the damage was done.

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                Imagine that. Not even a full season into his first year back in L.A, and Fisher alienates one of the franchise’s greatest players.

                Dickerson first brought up the phone conversation on his Monday radio show on AM 570. He initially declined to say who the call came from within the organization, saying only that it was from someone in “upper management.”

                He said he was content to let it stay right there, but then Fisher was asked about it Monday at his weekly news conference and feigned complete ignorance. In fact, he pointed to a recent phone call with Dickerson he described as “really good” and said Dickerson was always welcome at practices and games.

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                -11-30-2016, 03:41 PM