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    He worries me alot. I've watched him in college and he was a stud. I know the pros are tougher and he's had his ups and downs. But what do you guys think? Do you feel as threatened by him as I do? And if not, why? I got a bad feeling about him cause I've seen his potential.

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    If I'm not mistaken, he was Denver's starting QB when they beat us to open the 2002 season.

    Of course that had more to do with Warner being washed up than anything Griese may have done.
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    • #3
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      Griese doesn't concern me. The Bucs defense is what concerns me.

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      • #4
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        I get the feeling I'd rather see Chris Simms out there instead of Griese. ;)

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        • #5
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          Griese can be hot and cold but in his current situation he could be dangerous. He isn't the man like he was in Denver, so he can play loose and not worry about the ramifications. However, that also could be a detriment to his performance by taking unnecessary risks. It's important for the defense to get lots of pressure on him tonight. I was at the game in 2000 when he just torched our defense on a Monday Night.

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          • #6
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            Uh, theres a reason why he is the 3rd string qb behind the formidible brad johnson and the also formidible chris sims. No worries, actually, glad to see him.

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            • #7
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              You know, that game in 2002 really wasn't about Griese, it was more an issue of Warner being wash... what? Somebody already made that point? Oh, okay. Never mind.

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              • #8
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                Lets blame everything that went wrong with the Rams on Warner..he's not around anymore and it's nice to have a scapegoat...Look how terrible he's doing with the Giants...good thing we dumped the loser... :disappoin

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                • #9
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                  Easy on this Warner thing....he dosen't necessarily have to crop up in every thread does he?

                  I mean, London Fletcher was a much bigger loss but I don't read his name in every thread.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Shadesofgrey
                    Lets blame everything that went wrong with the Rams on Warner..he's not around anymore and it's nice to have a scapegoat...Look how terrible he's doing with the Giants...good thing we dumped the loser... :disappoin
                    Simma-daa-naa. I think AV was just making a joke related to Yo's joke. Now if Tx mentioned the loss of Fletcher again, that would be serious....oops, too late.
                    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                    • #11
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                      DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • #12
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                        Av! Are you hijacking my thread! Nothing makes me madder than someone hijacking a thread! :-)

                        So, some of you think Greasy is dangerous, and some think he's a putz? Interesting. I'd hate for him to have a break-out game against us.

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                        • #13
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                          My opinion: Griese could be dangerous if we let him. We shouldn't take the risk. Let's get after him early and often.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by coy bacon
                            Av! Are you hijacking my thread! Nothing makes me madder than someone hijacking a thread! :-)

                            So, some of you think Greasy is dangerous, and some think he's a putz? Interesting. I'd hate for him to have a break-out game against us.
                            Actually, Yodude hijacked it, I just rode along.

                            Anyway... with a name like Griese, a break-out would be expected.

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                            • #15
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                              Griese, dangerous? Please; they have no WR's, the O line is in bad shape.
                              I see no reason to be afraid of the Tampa O. Our D just needs to apply pessure on every down for 4 full quarters. Oh ya, and stopping the run would help too. :upset:
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                              • DJRamFan
                                [Bucs] The present is Griese's, if only for one week
                                by DJRamFan
                                By GARY SHELTON, Times Sports Columnist
                                Published October 11, 2004

                                NEW ORLEANS - Yesterday belongs to someone else. Tomorrow has already been promised.

                                All Brian Griese has is today.

                                For him, for now, it is enough.

                                He does not instill faith, the way an old starter does. He does not carry hope the way a young one does.

                                All Griese provided was a victory.

                                For the Bucs, for the time being, it was plenty.

                                When it came to saving the day, was anyone looking toward Griese? When it came to a lifeguard dragging a season out of choppy water, did anyone look his direction?

                                In a season that came down to a choice of Brad vs. Chris, he was the overlooked quarterback. No one pleaded his case. No one called his name. He was just another son of another quarterback-turned-analyst, another passer who was interesting enough to notice but not inviting enough to debate.

                                Until Sunday, that is, when Griese quietly and efficiently dropped his name into the Bucs' quarterback debate.

                                Griese came off the bench to win the game for the Bucs on Sunday. On a team that has been erratic, he provided efficiency. In a situation bordering on chaos, he supplied calm. He was precise, poised, polished. In other words, against the Saints, he out-Bradded Brad.

                                Considering that Griese had been stuck between forlorn and forgotten, he had a pretty spiffy day.

                                Who would have figured Griese would steal the show? Sunday was supposed to belong to Chris Simms, boy wonder. Griese was just another unpicked player in the Dating Game.

                                When the Bucs benched Brad Johnson earlier in the week, they looked right past Griese. Why not? In his career, Griese has been called everything but special. In the game of Who's-Your-Daddy, you would have expected Phil Simms, the old Giant, to have had the warm father-son chat on Sunday evening. Instead the call went to Bob Griese, the old Dolphin.

                                For 20 plays, Simms looked like exactly the right choice. Of the Bucs quarterbacks, Simms has the most voltage, and there is something to his play that seems to energize his team. He moved well in the pocket, and he threw fastballs.

                                Then Simms was sacked, and the muscles in his left shoulder were twisted into braids. That was when Griese rose from the ashes and said hello. He hit 16 of 19 passes, and he controlled the game like Bobby Fischer at a chess board.

                                And now for the big question:

                                Who starts now?

                                If you are Jon Gruden, the answer lies in Simms' sore shoulder. If Simms' shoulder isn't damaged, it's an easy decision. You made it last week.

                                Provided Simms somehow wakes up over the next few mornings and, whillickers, his shoulder is all healed, then he should start against the Rams. None of his 20 snaps against the Saints were an argument...
                                -10-11-2004, 01:18 PM
                              • DJRamFan
                                [Bucs] Griese Is The Word At QB
                                by DJRamFan
                                By KATHERINE SMITH [email protected]
                                Published: Oct 12, 2004






                                TAMPA - Brian Griese walked into the Bucs' meeting room Monday and eased himself into a chair.
                                The seventh-year quarterback was a little more sore than in past weeks after significant playing time in the Bucs' 20-17 victory against New Orleans on Sunday. Griese plans on being just as sore next week following the Monday night game at St. Louis, where he will get his first start as a Buccaneer.

                                Griese came in at New Orleans after Chris Simms, making his first NFL start, went down in the Bucs' second offensive series with a sprained left shoulder. An MRI revealed no extensive damage that would require surgery, Coach Jon Gruden said Monday, and Simms is listed as doubtful for the Rams game.

                                Griese, the former Denver and Miami quarterback who signed with the Bucs in March, wouldn't speculate if the starting job is now his to lose.

                                ``I have no idea,'' Griese said. ``I just found out [Monday] morning that I was going to play this week, so I'm happy about that. I'm happy about the opportunity to go out on Monday night. What a great stage, so I'm just excited about that.``

                                Gruden was noncommittal on how long Griese would remain the starter.

                                ``We're just going to deal with the reality of business. Chris is hurt,`` Gruden said. ``If Chris had stayed healthy and played like he was playing, he would continue to be our starter. He's not healthy. He's hurt. Brian Griese did a heck of a job. He's starting.``

                                Griese completed 16 of 19 passes Sunday for 194 yards, finishing with a passer rating of 126.8. He led scoring drives of 41 and 71 yards, the longer drive capped off with his 45- yard touchdown pass to tight end Ken Dilger.

                                But the most impressive drive may have been the game's last, during which the Bucs converted two key third downs to run out the clock.

                                ``I can't really say that in my years of coaching, that I have seen a guy come in, off the bench, and play that well in a situation where we really needed him to do that,'' Gruden said. ``He sparked us. He ignited us. He made some great plays in the game.''

                                Griese likes the responsibility that comes with the quarterback role in Gruden's offense. That was evident during the Bucs' final drive Sunday when Griese threw on three consecutive downs and converted a third-down play with a 14-yard pass to Michael Pittman.

                                ``I like how much the offense is put in the quarterback's hands,'' Griese said. ``They really require the quarterback to pull the trigger, put the team in the right play, to make the right reads and to win the game.

                                ``I've been in places where games have been taken out of the quarterback's hands.``

                                Though Gruden said a decision on who would back up Griese would be made later...
                                -10-12-2004, 07:46 AM
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                                Bucs to resign Griese
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                                Looks like they are going to make a long term commitment to this guy. Bit risky IMO, he has been a bit of a headcase in the past:

                                Just in case, Bucs talk to Garcia...
                                -02-27-2005, 03:09 AM
                              • DJRamFan
                                [Bucs] Griese will start vs. Rams
                                by DJRamFan
                                By Associated Press
                                Published October 11, 2004

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                                TAMPA - Chris Simms' first NFL start lasted 19 plays, and it may be a while before he plays again for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

                                Although the second-year quarterback is day to day with a left shoulder sprain, coach Jon Gruden said Brian Griese, who came off the bench to pace Sunday's 20-17 win over New Orleans, will start next Monday night at St. Louis.

                                "There will be no surgery. We're going to call it a sprain. He's going to be sore for a period of days," Gruden said, adding Simms will be listed as doubtful.

                                Asked if he expects Simms to practice this week, Gruden was not optimistic.

                                "It depends on how quick the soreness subsides. I would say that that's questionable at best," the coach said. "Hopefully as the week unfolds, he'll get some strength and mobility back."

                                The son of former New York Giants star Phil Simms was 5-of-8 for 68 yards and produced a 3-0 lead before he was hurt when Saints rookie Will Smith sacked him in late in the first quarter, causing a fumble.

                                X-rays taken Sunday showed no structural damage, and a MRI exam performed Monday was negative, too.

                                Griese, also the son of a Super Bowl-winning quarterback, replaced Simms and completed 16 of 19 passes for 194 yards and one touchdown.

                                Gruden shrugged off a question about whether Griese earned the starting job, which was held by Brad Johnson through an 0-4 start, or if Simms would return to the lineup when he's healthy.

                                "We're just going to deal with the reality of business. Chris is hurt," Gruden said. "If Chris had stayed healthy and played like he was playing, he would continue to be our starter. He's not healthy. He's hurt. Brian Griese did a heck of a job. He's starting."

                                Meanwhile, Gruden said the team will not trade Johnson, who has lost 13 of 20 starts since leading the Bucs to a Super Bowl victory in January 2003.

                                "I'm not going to answer all the rumor mill," Gruden said. "There's a lot of inaccuracies out there. Brad Johnson is a big part of this football team and will continue to be that."

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                                -10-11-2004, 01:19 PM
                              • DJRamFan
                                [Bucs] Game balls
                                by DJRamFan
                                By Times Staff
                                Published October 11, 2004

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                                Brian Griese, Bucs quarterback: Sometimes, calm and efficient is better than flash and sizzle.

                                Michael Pittman, Bucs running back: Bucs linebacker Derrick ) Brooks said it best, "In the end, he refused to go down."

                                Jeff Gooch, Bucs linebacker: Shelton Quarles set a high standard. Gooch maintained it after Quarles got hurt.

                                Chris Simms, Bucs quarterback: His starting debut was too brief, but he played long enough to give the Bucs the spark they needed.

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                                -10-11-2004, 01:27 PM
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