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  • Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

    Another huge, huge win and we appear to have made it through relatively healthy. I wont repeat the bulk of what avenger noted in his 20 thoughts, since many of my thoughts are basically the same (with the notable addition of my post on grant willliams). It is so true that causing turnovers on defense covers a multitude of problems, such as most importantly a very, very poor pass rush. I agree that the play of the corners, especially groce, wasnt great, but griese had way too much time to throw.

    I will say this. We have to beat miami if we want to stay in serious contention for home field in the playoffs. This is the kind of trap game that we need to avoid looking past. We are on a short week, about to go on the road and you know that miami wont lose them all. They are pretty tough defensively so we need to avoid turnovers on offense and stupid mistakes that could let them stay in the game. It would be so great if we could get ahead early and get a convincing win heading into the bye week. Looking past anyone in the nfl is a recipe for disaster, as we all saw very clearly in the detroit game last year.

    I continue to contend that the real significance of the loss to the saints was the elimination of our "margain for error." If you want home field, division titles, and a chance at the superbowl, you cant afford much in the way of "bad" losses, and while the atlanta game was a game we could have won, at this point, it doesnt look like a bad loss to me, whereas the saints game was over and we couldnt hold them for 28 seconds.

    If we beat miami, i think that at 5-2 and a huge win on the road at seattle we have to be pleased. Not thrilled to death, but very pleased, mainly because we will be in control of our own destiny. Looking at new england and seattle coming out of the bye week makes it that much more critical that we dont lay an egg against the dolphins this coming sunday.

    Lets all enjoy the win at least for tonight, tampa is very, very tough defensively no matter what their record is, and its a terrific win for the squad.

    ramming speed to all

    general counsel

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    Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

    You'll probably get to 5-2 this sunday vs the Fins. I can't see the Rams getting beat by my Fins.

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    • #3
      Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

      Welcome to the ClanRam board, miamarino.

      The Dolphins are having their problems this year, no doubt. But I, for one, won't take anything for granted against Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain.

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      • #4
        Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

        Defensively, I'm looking forward to seeing how Hargrove plays against a slow O line of Miami. Fiedler isn't the most nimble QB on the planet.

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        • #5
          Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

          This is going to be a very tough game against the Fins.I live in South Florida and have been a rams fan for 40years.Miami is really going to be up for this game.They played very well against the Pats in New England and the game was closer than the score.They matchup well against the Rams,,very sold defense and excellent DB;S....there weakness is their offense but match well against a very soft Ram defense.

          It would be great to win this game and go into the by-week in first place and get ready for the Pats....but,if the Rams are thinking the same this could be a very ugly day in Miami.

          I do know this...the rams need fisher back and a major contribution from kennedy to strenghen the defense,,,,no question the offense is dynamite despite Willaims who is awful but its that soft defense against quality teams like the Pats and Eagles that must be improved if the Rams are indeed going to challenge the big boys,,,,just my .02.

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          • #6
            Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

            Nobody should be overlooking this game. NOBODY.

            This is a good team with a few problems. If you take it for granted, they will hurt us.

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            • #7
              Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

              Surtain and Madison are two of the best corners in the league, and Miami did get some resemblence of a running game against the Bills Sunday.

              I don't think this Rams team looks over anyone. Martz won't allow it, and it seems Bulger has the same demeanor be it the Patriots or the Cardinals.

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              • #8
                Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

                I agree, but we need to keep the Clans feet on the ground LOL

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                • #9
                  Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

                  Of course, the Rams do have an extra special 12th man this week...


                  ME!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

                    Originally posted by AvengerRam
                    Welcome to the ClanRam board, miamarino.

                    The Dolphins are having their problems this year, no doubt. But I, for one, won't take anything for granted against Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Sam Madison and Patrick Surtain.
                    Thanks Avenger. Yes, we're definitely having a miserable year. The effort is there, no doubt about it but we definitely also have execution problems on offense as well as being victims of an inept coach and GM. The D has kept us in everygame... until the offense commits stupid, costly turnovers (re: see Takeo Spikes last week vs Buffalo). I fear things will get even bleaker as the D eventually gets worn down from this impetent offense. Most Fins fans have given up on 2004 and are looking fwd to the draft as well as 2005 w/MAJOR changes coming. Your D may be soft (as another poster above said) but our O is so pathetic it may not be able to take advantage of that. We have playmakers at FB, WR, and TE but that's it. It also requires execution from the QB and OL, which we are not getting. Anything is possible and the Fins MAY upset the Rams but based on what I've seen so far, I doubt it. Good luck, hope u beat the Pats.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

                      I think the TB game was a good rehearsal for the fins game. Not that TB is a weaker team, but that they are a very similar team. Their O is better than we will see in Miami, but their D isn't as good. We will have to stay up for this one. I think we see Jackson become enlightened as to what a top-tier run defense can do this week.
                      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                        Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

                        Originally posted by HUbison
                        I think the TB game was a good rehearsal for the fins game. Not that TB is a weaker team, but that they are a very similar team. Their O is better than we will see in Miami, but their D isn't as good. We will have to stay up for this one. I think we see Jackson become enlightened as to what a top-tier run defense can do this week.
                        The Fins D is tops (or near there) in pass D but they have allowed 4 one hundred yd rushers this year compared to just 1 last yr. The secondary will definitely be tested but from what I saw of the Bucs-Rams game, you have to get pressure on Bulger otherwise he'll sit back there and pick you apart (which applies to all QB's.... well, maybe not to our QB's as they can't make a throw pressure or not). We'll try our best to enlighten Mr. Jackson, though.

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                          Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

                          Originally posted by miamarino
                          The Fins D is tops (or near there) in pass D but they have allowed 4 one hundred yd rushers this year compared to just 1 last yr. The secondary will definitely be tested but from what I saw of the Bucs-Rams game, you have to get pressure on Bulger otherwise he'll sit back there and pick you apart (which applies to all QB's.... well, maybe not to our QB's as they can't make a throw pressure or not). We'll try our best to enlighten Mr. Jackson, though.
                          True, your run D has appeared to underachieve this year, but I think it's due to all of your opponents apparent desire to not pass against you. The fins are giving up a respectable 4.0 ypc (T-13th) and only 2 rushing TDs (T-5th). The problem is only Oakland has had more rushing attempts against them (which seems odd with Sapp and Washington in the middle, but that's a different topic). When teams run against you 34 times per game, the run D is bound to loosen up. The question I have is will Martz be willing to run that many times? If not, your run D may look better against us than they have so far this year.
                          The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

                            You know, we've overlooked the greatest one-on-one matchup this week. Yea, that's right, it's time for the Clash of the Titans!!!!

                            Leonard Little vs. John St. Clair
                            Let's get ready to RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!! :redface:
                            The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                              Re: Great win for the squad, bring on the fish!

                              Originally posted by HUbison
                              You know, we've overlooked the greatest one-on-one matchup this week. Yea, that's right, it's time for the Clash of the Titans!!!!

                              Leonard Little vs. John St. Clair
                              Let's get ready to RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!! :redface:

                              Classic. Brilliantly classic.

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                                Lets put the win in perspective, what happens next
                                by Guest
                                What does this win mean? It means we are right in the hunt for the nfc west title and still have a real shot to have an elite season. We now have a huge tiebreaker advantage against seattle, and if we can beat them at home, we in effect have an enormous benefit as we will win the west in the event of a tie. Its also a division win, which i believe helps conference record and tiebreaker wise for both home field and other playoff positioning.

                                Its not just the huge road win against a quality team, its how we came back and won. There is no quit in this team and we will only continue to improve if we can stay healthy.

                                At this point, the real key is not to rest on our laurels, but to be able to carry the fourth quarter and OT performance into the next two games, tampa at home and miami on the road, two games that we have to win. 5-2 at the break is very competitive. I would absolutely hate to see us give it back with a subpar performance that leads to a loss against the two inferior teams coming up.

                                The new orleans loss eliminates any margain for error at this point, given the tough games ahead. We cant afford to lose any more games to teams that we are better than, for 100% sure at home, if we want a shot at home field through the playoffs.

                                Good health, better defense, and continued improvement by the offense and we are still a 12-4 team, maybe even 13-3 if we get a break.

                                Can you imagine the odds of winning in seattle with a minus three turnover ratio? We really need to do a better job pressuring the passer, tackling and creating turnovers, but for tonight, lets enjoy one of the greatest comebacks in rams history.

                                ramming speed to all

                                general counsel
                                -10-10-2004, 06:17 PM
                              • general counsel
                                What a difference a couple of games can make...looking ahead
                                by general counsel
                                Depsite the gloom and doom and the appearance that the defense cant stop anyone, lets assume for a second that we can find a way to beat both the saints and jacksonville and get healthy in the bye week.

                                Think about how excited and geared up we will all be to head to seattle for a little payback. A healthy bulger and bruce. A jelling offensive line. Little back at full strength, a little momentum. Who knows, maybe an injury or two for seattle to some key guys (and i am not talking about receivers that while talented cant hold onto the ball anyway, i am talking about guys like haselback, alexander, jones etc), maybe a game where the refs dont shaft us and best of all, maybe a game where for one time we play to our potential for a full 60 minutes rather than digging a hole early or playing great early and then collapsing either on defense or via turnovers.

                                Guys, if we win the next two, rest up, then beat seattle on the road, we will feel night and day different than we do right now. I dont think this falls into the category of believing that the earth is flat or the easter bunny is real, merely a matter of getting healthy and getting break here or there. I honestly feel we are not as bad as we look and a play here or there (especially at the end of both the seattle and san fran games) and our record would be a lot different. They say that the breaks even out over the course of a season. IF that is true, we have some breaks coming to us and it all starts this week by beating the saints at home. If we cant win this game, i think it could be an incredibly long year and time to get serious both about playing the kids and doing our draft prep work.

                                Ramming speed to all

                                general counsel
                                -10-20-2005, 06:59 AM
                              • general counsel
                                this game is a MUST win
                                by general counsel
                                Lets not kid ourselves. If we want to go to the playoffs, this game is a MUST win. We are at home against a clearly inferior team. Even if we play without The Big Man, there is no way we can afford to lose this game if we want to go to the playoffs. Losing to the whiners was a bad loss, but at least it was a road game. Bad losses at home are a recipe for disaster in the nfl.

                                We are an impossible fumble away from 1-2, but how we got to 2-1 is irrelevant. At the end of the day, in the nfl, a win is a win and any road win is just fantastic.

                                Next week is another crucial game, on the road vs. a team we should beat. HOwever, no need to look ahead. We HAVE to take care of business tomorrow if we are interested in a special season. We have plenty of tough games ahead and while every game in the nfl is tough, this have to qualify as one of couple most winnable games of the year. We cant afford a mental letdown and the time has come to convert in the red zone, which is really the single most critical component to us having a playoff season (after health of course).

                                Ramming speed to all

                                general counsel
                                -09-30-2006, 04:25 PM
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                                The time to win is now!
                                by Guam rammer
                                With a win @ Denver and a surprising loss to SF we need to win our next 3 games against the Cards (1-1), lions
                                (0-2) and packers (0-2). Awe heck! it'd be nice to win all our games.
                                Our next 5 opponents after the above said will be Seattle, SD, KC, Seattle and Carolina. All are definately contenders for something in this league.
                                If we go into the Seattle game in week 6 @ 4-1, We'll be in good condition to battle for a share of the top spot of our division.
                                Arizona has tough contests against Atlanta, KC, and Chicago after this week, and SF also has tough games against philly, and KC comming up.
                                We will need the momentum going into the Seattle game, and 4-1 will be a great confidence booster. If we come
                                away with a win at Seattle and are at 5-1, we won't be out of the thick because then everyone will focus their attention on us and our next 4 opponents are capable of punching us in the mouth!! and amongst those 4 we get Seattle again, this time on their turf.
                                Seattles next 2 games are @ home against the Giants, and away against the Bears. They could come away w/ 2 wins, a win and a loss , or 2 losses(wishful). Then they get a bye week to rest up and plan against us. If the Rams are gonna to make a move, i think this time now is critical because The middle of our season looks brutal.
                                Planning ahead in the NFL isnt always a good thing and i'll admit i had us Destroying the 9ers last week, but who knows, anything can happen. Lets just hope it isnt 1-4.
                                I know, i know, 1 game at a time and the cards won't be an easy task but THESE 3 GAMES ARE CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR TEAM!!
                                -09-20-2006, 04:14 PM
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                                Happy to get the win, but.....
                                by Guest
                                I am of course thrilled with the must win, however, lest i throw some caution out there before anyone gets too excited.

                                I was not thrilled with the play of the defense tonight. I thought we gave up plenty of plays early in the game and did not close them out in the second half. Lets keep in mind that sf is a terrible, terrible team, playing without three starting offense lineman.

                                To me, it looked like every time rattay had time to throw he was pretty successful, killing us with the tight end. Our failure to get pressure all year has murdered us, and with seattle on the road coming off a bye week on the horizon, we are going to have to tackle and cover better if we want a shot to stay in the game.

                                The key positive for the defense was the two takeaways. That made all the difference. A key sack on the first possession was also a big play after they drove right down the field on us.

                                Offensively and special teams i thought we were great in the first half, but were unable to finish them off in the second half.

                                Again, i am not trying to be excessively negative, but we need to improve defensively and most importantly, continue to make plays and cause turnovers if we want a shot to beat seattle on the road.

                                At this point, even with a loss to seattle, we can stay alive if we beat tampa and miami before the bye. I just hope that the debacle against the saints doesnt bite us in the butt down the road.

                                Faulk and Bruce continue to prove their value to this team. I like steven jackson as well, but he just is not on the same level as faulk at this point in his career in my opinion.

                                ramming speed to all

                                general counsel
                                -10-03-2004, 08:51 PM
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