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    BY JIM THOMAS Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:10 am

    It has been so long since the Rams beat Seattle that, well, some Rams veterans have forgotten how long.

    Try the 2004 season.

    "Oh, wow," was cornerback Ron Bartell's reaction.

    It has been so long that ...

    The entire Rams rookie class was in high school.

    The Rams were the defending NFC West champions.

    And sellouts, the kind where every ticket actually gets sold, happened every Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome.

    Since then, the Rams have lost 10 in a row to the Seahawks, who visit the dome Sunday for a noon kickoff. It's the second-longest losing streak to an opponent in Rams history, exceeded only by 17 consecutive losses to San Francisco from 1990-98.

    Only two players on the current roster have experienced a victory over Seattle as members of the Rams long snapper Chris Massey and running back Steven Jackson.

    "They've just outplayed us the last couple years," Massey said. "We're working hard. Not all of the young guys know that they've won the last 10 games."

    Nor do all of them even care. When asked if the Seattle streak meant anything to him, rookie quarterback Sam Bradford said, "No. I mean, I haven't been here. Like I said, this is a new team. This is a fresh start. Obviously, we're going to play these guys twice this year and this is the first time."

    Steve Spagnuolo, a mere 0-2 against the Seahawks as Rams coach, brushed aside a question on the topic Wednesday, displaying typical coach's tunnel vision.

    "It wouldn't matter if we had won 10 games in a row, I would still want to beat them," Spagnuolo said. "So I'm just going to deal with this Sunday's game against Seattle and this particular 2010 Seattle team."

    That may be so, but if the Rams are going to claw their way back to respectability, they must start ending some streaks. On Sunday against Washington, they snapped a 10-game overall losing streak and ended their franchise-record 14-game home losing streak.

    This Sunday, they can not only end their 10-game losing streak to the Seahawks but also end a 15-game skid against NFC West foes dating back to November 2007.

    "Ten is a long streak, and I think we're primed to have our best game yet," said place-kicker Josh Brown. "We've had two games that we let go by (against Arizona and Oakland). We had one that we really played well last week (against Washington), and we still made a lot of mistakes. We've got a great opportunity against a good Seahawk team. Ten's a long run. But 10's enough."

    Brown is a double agent of sorts when it comes to this streak. He is in his third season with St. Louis and has been part of the last four Rams losses to Seattle. But before that he helped get Seattle off and running on the streak as the Seahawks' kicker.

    In 2006, he beat the Rams not once, but twice with last-second field goals. On Oct. 15 of that season, Brown's 54-yarder as time expired gave visiting Seattle a 30-28 victory over the Rams. Four weeks later in Seattle, Brown's 38-yard kick with 9 seconds left gave the Seahawks a 24-22 victory.

    If even one of those kicks sails just a few inches wide, the Rams win the NFC West title instead of Seattle and rookie coach Scott Linehan is a strong candidate for NFL coach of the year.

    "Yeah, it may be a completely different story," Brown said, then added playfully, "But that was not the case, so ..."

    Those two game-winners accounted for victories No. 3 and No. 4 in the Seattle winning streak. But they were far from the only excruciating defeats for the Rams in the series..

    In 2005, with the Rams trailing 37-31 in St. Louis, Shaun McDonald fielded a Seattle punt at the Rams' 40 with just under 3 minutes to play. But he lost control of the ball and Seattle recovered and ran out the clock. That was victory No. 1 for Seattle in the streak.

    In 2007, trailing 24-19 in St. Louis, the Rams had a fourth-and-goal from the Seattle 1 with 30 seconds to play. Jackson headed right for what could've been a dramatic game-winning touchdown, but never got the ball. Quarterback Gus Frerotte couldn't handle the snap from center Andy McCollum; Frerotte recovered the fumble but Seattle took over on downs. (Victory No. 6.)

    In 2008 came yet another game-winning field goal as time expired, this time a 27-yarder by Olindo Mare that gave Seattle a 23-20 victory, again in a game played in St. Louis. (Victory No. 8.)

    There was nothing dramatic or traumatic about the Rams' two losses to Seattle last season under Spagnuolo. The Rams lost 28-0 in Seattle to open the 2009 campaign and lost 27-17 at the end of November in St. Louis.

    Even though he played down the streak to reporters, Spagnuolo did in fact touch upon it in his remarks to the team earlier in the day.

    "Sure, we would like to end that streak," said defensive end Chris Long, who is 0-4 against Seattle. "I understand maybe people are antsy about losing 10 straight or whatever it is. But you can't look past right now.

    "There are different people in this locker room. Nothing against the people that used to be in this locker room, but just for whatever reason it wasn't working. We have this group of people here now. And we have this game Sunday, and anything can happen in that game."

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    Perhaps the most infamous 11 minutes in franchise history.

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    The St. Louis Rams rallied for a 33-27 win Oct. 10, erasing a 17-point deficit with 8:47 to play and scoring less than 3 minutes into overtime. With an almost unbelievable turn of events, they stunned the Seahawks.

    "Given the time that was left, the perfect chain of events had to take place for the Rams to have a chance," Seattle coach Mike Holmgren said.

    That's exactly what happened, but Seattle gets another shot this weekend.

    The Rams - who also beat the Seahawks 23-12 in St. Louis a few weeks later - return for Saturday's wild-card playoff, revisiting the site of their hallmark victory during a frustrating season.

    "We've used that a lot this year, any time we've faced some adversity," Rams quarterback Marc Bulger said. "A couple of weeks ago, we were 6-8 and we knew we had to win our last two. We reflected back to that final quarter in Seattle."

    What a quarter it was.

    Seattle led 27-10 after Josh Brown's 34-yard field goal with 8:47 to go. St. Louis made it 27-17 on Brandon Manumaleuna's circus catch with 5:43 on the clock, then Kevin Curtis caught a 41-yard TD pass to make it 27-24 with 3:37 remaining.

    St. Louis got the ball again, leading to a 36-yard field goal by Jeff Wilkins with 13 seconds left. On the sixth play from scrimmage in overtime, Bulger read an all-out blitz and flipped a 52-yard TD pass to Shaun McDonald.

    "Unbelievable feeling. It was one of those great feelings in sports," St. Louis safety Adam Archuleta said.

    "What it comes down to is you've got guys making plays," Rams coach Mike Martz explained. "There's nothing magical about what we were doing. The thing you talk about with these guys is attitude and never giving in to anything."

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    By Jim Thomas

    Of the Post-Dispatch
    Leonard Little (above) says the Rams have been looking forward to the kind of test the Seattle Seahawks present.
    (Chris Lee/P-D)

    SEATTLE - Almost since the first preseason magazines hit the newsstands in June and July, the Seattle Seahawks have been portrayed as the team to beat in the NFC West and an up-and-coming power in the NFC.

    "There's been a lot of talk that they're going to overtake the NFC West, and that the Rams are fading," Rams wide receiver Torry Holt said. "It doesn't bother me none."

    Holt, in fact, agrees with that assessment. To a point.

    "They are an up-and-coming team in the National Football League," he said. "But we won 12 games (last season). We still are the champs of the NFC West. And until somebody dethrones us, then that's the way we're going to carry ourselves."

    And one last thing.

    "You still have to play," Holt said. "No matter what's being said in the papers and the magazines, we still have to go out there and strap it on. And they have to beat us, and we have to beat them."

    So the NFC West sorting process begins in earnest Sunday afternoon at Qwest Field. A victory by Seattle, which is coming of its bye week, puts the Seahawks at 4-0 for the first time in franchise history. It also puts the Seahawks three games up on the loss side against the Rams.

    But a Rams victory puts them at 3-2, and Seattle at 3-1 with the Seahawks traveling to New England on Oct. 17. A loss doesn't eliminate the Rams, but a victory means the division race is on.

    "This one will tell a lot about who's got early control of the division," Rams defensive captain Tyoka Jackson said. "The season's not over after this game, but. ..."

    As for all the Seattle hype?

    "Well, we heard the same thing last year, so what does that mean?" Jackson asked. "It means absolutely nothing, it's just talk. The game's played on the field. ... If we go out and play Rams football, it doesn't really matter."

    In their two victories this season, "Rams football" has meant a mix of running and passing on offense, zero sacks allowed by Rams blockers, and stingy defense.

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    Coach Steve Spagnuolo never looks back. He's always looking forward and wants his players to do the same. Maybe that's a good thing, considering the state of St. Louis Rams football in recent years. But the future arrives Sunday at 3:15 p.m. (St. Louis time) at Qwest Field in Seattle.

    If the Rams are going to do anything to get back to respectability, they've got to do better against the NFC West. Much better, beginning with the 2009 season opener against the Seahawks.

    Since the start of the 2005 season, Mike Martz's last go-around as Rams coach, the team is a woeful 4-20 against the NFC West, for a pitiful winning percentage of .167.

    (They're 15-25 for a .375 percentage against the rest of the league over that time. Which isn't great, but it's still more than twice as good as .167.)

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    2-6 against Arizona. Many blowouts here. The Rams have lost their last five games to the Cardinals and yielded at least 34 points in all five "contests."

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    Over a period of six seasons, from 1999 through their last playoff season 2004 the Rams won 43 of 53 home games.

    There was no tougher place to play in the National Football League. You could almost see defenders' knees buckle during pregame introductions as the Rams ran out to the guitar riffs of "Kashmir," the Led Zeppelin rock classic.

    They don't play that song any more at the Edward Jones Dome. The Rams don't win there any more either at least not lately. Since the middle of the 2005 season, the Rams have lost 12 of 16 home contests.

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    "We definitely want to give that to them," linebacker Chris Draft said.

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    SEATTLE -- The feisty, new-look Seahawks of coach Jim Mora attacked on defense during plays -- and scrapped after them.

    On offense, they showed balance between run and pass, and did a good job of protecting quarterback Matt Hasselbeck.

    It was as if 2008 never happened.

    St. Louis resembled the same old Rams, who hired Steve Spagnuolo as their head coach after going 2-14 last year.

    Hasselbeck, playing his first game since Thanksgiving Day, overcame two interceptions in his first three throws Sunday to connect with John Carlson for two touchdowns in Seattle's 28-0 romp past the Rams.

    Hasselbeck, who missed nine games last season with a bad back, finished 25 of 36 for 279 yards passing, his most for an opener.

    Seattle's first shutout in almost two years was its ninth consecutive win over its division rivals. It was also Seattle's biggest win to begin a season since a 38-0 victory over Philadelphia in 1998.

    "The whole offseason, they said our team was soft," said rookie outside linebacker Aaron Curry, the fourth overall pick who scuffled repeatedly with Rams running back Steven Jackson. "We've got to change our image."

    Mora was smiling after his first game as a head coach since the end of the 2006 season for Atlanta. Nine months ago, the Seahawks were 4-12 for Mike Holmgren.

    The former visiting locker room attendant for the Seahawks at the old Kingdome returned to his hometown for a day he said he'd thought of "for a long, long time."

    "It was especially emotional for me, because there is some significance to it. I'd be lying if I told you there wasn't," the 47-year-old said. "It was kind of a surreal experience."

    His revived Seahawks took advantage of a rare use of instant replay to cruise over the sloppy, undisciplined Rams, who pushed and shoved their way to 10 penalties.

    Two of them were personal fouls after plays by offensive lineman Richie Incognito.

    "Would you rather us just get our tail kicked and walk back (to the huddle)?" Jackson said. "You saw some fight in this team."

    Yet, St. Louis gained just 247 yards in an effort similar to its 38-3 loss against Philadelphia that opened last season.

    "Yeah, I'm not going there,'' said Spagnuolo, who was the Giants' defensive coordinator at the time. "This was the first game of the 2009 season, that's what it is. We didn't win. We will play the second game of the 2009 season next week. ''

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