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  • Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

    I've noticed some people taking offense at characterizations that have been made regarding certain Rams fans.

    My response to that: "To thine own self be true."

    We all know what kind of fans we are.

    Most of us are diehards. Those who are bandwagon fans know who they are.

    Most of us have a positive outlook. Those who revel in negativity know who they are.

    Most of us are focused on today. Those who dwell on the past or only want to talk about what might happen next year know who they are.

    Most of us, when lucky enough to attend a Rams game, come close to losing out voices cheering the team on. Those who hang out, have a few beers, and then leave early know who they are.

    Most of us come to ClanRam to discuss the Rams with fellow fans, those who come to cause trouble, bait people into arguments, or do nothing other than vent know who they are.

    So, if you feel that you are being mischaracterized by a generalization (notwithstanding that, in the aggregate, the generalization is true), don't be offended. You may be the exception.

    And if you're not... you know who you are.

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    Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

    While I tend to agree with your post I think it's better for everyone if we just move on at this point, thus why I've left that thread and haven't responded to Nick's thread.

    Let's just move on to sunday.

    Hopefully it's a good sunday. I'm really starting to hate Singletary.
    "I've been saving the Universe for over a thousand years. I figure it owes me just this once."

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    • #3
      Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

      Originally posted by BrokenWing View Post
      While I tend to agree with your post I think it's better for everyone if we just move on at this point, thus why I've left that thread and haven't responded to Nick's thread.

      Let's just move on to sunday.

      Hopefully it's a good sunday. I'm really starting to hate Singletary.
      Amen brother!!!!!!!!
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      • #4
        Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

        Originally posted by BrokenWing View Post
        While I tend to agree with your post I think it's better for everyone if we just move on at this point, thus why I've left that thread and haven't responded to Nick's thread.

        Let's just move on to sunday.

        Hopefully it's a good sunday. I'm really starting to hate Singletary.
        Here here!

        Personally, I'm at a point on these forums where I can pick what I will or won't enjoy reading pretty easily. My ignore button has been given a workout and I feel like that's the best way to avoid any unpleasantness. Put simply, I don't believe there is any mischaracterisation at hand. It's just characterisation full stop. Posters contribute (if you use the term loosely) to these boards each in a way that is uniquely theirs. The way that I see it, what you post is a reflection on your character at large. Personally, when a poster shows an unwavering commitment to one agenda, ignoring the spirit of debate and vitality that has been the trademark of these forums for as long as I've been a member, then I make it my mission to show unwavering commitment to use the ignore button. I don't think it's as simple as 'Optimism v. Negativity', either. It's the unyielding dedication to one's own opinion that separates debate from debauchery.

        In real life, we have the luxury of being able to choose our friends. Sometimes, here, we aren't as lucky. I've just stopped paying attention to the people I wouldn't have time for in life outside of my computer screen.

        Brokenwing is right. Onwards and upwards! Here's to a great game this Sunday.

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        • #5
          Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

          Hey I take offense to being called a bandwagoner...

          Just because the last game I went to was during the GSOT, and that I enjoy a few drinks, and like to save my voice, and only know one player on the team which is Marshall Faulk...

          :king:

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          • #6
            Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

            Don't you know what country you live in Av? It's America, land of the pampered cry baby, where you're encouraged to wear you emotions on your sleeve and let everyone know about it when you're offended. The days of being a man are out and being a pampered little sissy mary are in. You shouldn't be surprised when people get there widdle feewings hurt.

            Actually on a serious note, this site has offended me way too many times, and I'm getting my buddy Al Sharpton to shut this place down!
            Last edited by RamFan_Til_I_Die; -12-23-2010, 02:26 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

              Originally posted by RamFan_Til_I_Die View Post
              Don't you know what country you live in Av? It's America, land of the pampered cry baby, where you're encouraged to wear you emotions on your sleeve and let everyone know about it when you're offended. The days of being a man are out and being a pampered little sissy mary are in. You shouldn't be surprised when people get there widdle feewings hurt.

              Actually on a serious note, this site has offended me way too many times, and I'm get my buddy Al Sharpton to shut this place down!
              if your buddy is Al Sharpton then being offended on this site is the least of your worries.

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              • #8
                Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

                Originally posted by jkramsfan View Post
                if your buddy is Al Sharpton then being offended on this site is the least of your worries.
                LOL But he throws the best parties!

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                • #9
                  Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

                  Originally posted by BrokenWing View Post
                  Hopefully it's a good sunday. I'm really starting to hate Singletary.
                  Starting to? Join the club brother. This guy is super irritating and I have been member since last year

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                  • #10
                    Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

                    He earns my disgust mostly because he seems to think good coaches win games by playing shell games with their starting QB.
                    "I've been saving the Universe for over a thousand years. I figure it owes me just this once."

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                    • #11
                      Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

                      Who will speak for the dishonest fans?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

                        Originally posted by AlphaRam View Post
                        Who will speak for the dishonest fans?



                        He just has that look of honesty in him.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

                          Originally posted by RockinRam View Post



                          He just has that look of honesty in him.
                          He looks like he used to be a Klingon, but shaved and had the forehead ridges sanded off. A Klingon without ridges has no honor, so you have made a good selection. Q'plah!

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                            Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

                            The geek that I am wishes to point out that in fact for a period of their history Klingons didn't have ridges because of a genetic mutation caused by a virus killing drug. Also because of a genetic mutation caused by lack of funds for special effects and costuming.

                            Kudos on the last word in your post though. For the record, I don't know Klingon. (Star Trek isn't even my biggest thing.)

                            Anyway...where were we? Oh yes, repaint the seats!
                            "I've been saving the Universe for over a thousand years. I figure it owes me just this once."

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                            • #15
                              Re: Honest fans should not be offended by anything posted here.

                              What about this shifty eyed fellow?
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