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    Does anyone know the cap implications if turley retires? I have read that we would be in a position to ask for money back, which could reduce the cap burden if turley paid it. If he refused to do so, we could file a grievance.

    Assuming that the two sides dont reach an injury settlement, i would be very interested to know how bad the hit will be next year.

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  • RamWraith
    Word has it; Turley
    by RamWraith
    Scuttle butt around the net is that Turley took a physical yesterday for the team and failed, hence the reason will be for his cut today. This is good news for Rams fan, as it is much cheaper to pay him an injury settlement than his salary.
    -06-03-2005, 05:02 AM
  • Nick
    Update on Turley
    by Nick
    According to SportsCenter, Turley's doctor said that it would be at least 3-6 months before he could pass a physical, and that he'd remain at 260 lbs. right now because he's been advised to add no more weight while rehabing. According to the doctor, Turley is experiencing problems in his upper and lower leg as well as numbness in his foot because of his back problems. They claimed it was pretty much a done deal that he'd be released from the Rams.
    -06-03-2005, 03:28 PM
  • RamWraith
    Turley still rehabbing from back injury
    by RamWraith
    By Len Pasquarelli

    Still at least three months away from being able to pass an NFL physical, and about 40 pounds under his normal playing weight, offensive tackle Kyle Turley has been released by the St. Louis Rams after failing a team-administered physical exam.

    The split with Turley, who officially appeared on the NFL's transaction wire Monday as "waived-failed physical" following an exam in Arizona, where he has been rehabilitating from a debilitating back injury, ends a turbulent stint with the team. The bile between the seven-year veteran right tackle and coach Mike Martz spilled over into a much-publicized shouting match last December.

    Following the imbroglio, precipitated in part when the coach suggested that Turley was not returning his phone calls and updating him on his physical progress, Martz filed a complaint with NFL security. In the complaint, Martz alleged Turley threatened him.

    Even without the bitterness, it is doubtful that Turley, who is suffering from a herniated disc, would have returned to the club. The poisoned relationship between Turley and Martz, though, cemented the fact the tackle would not return to the Rams, even though he suggested as recently as last week that he was amenable to playing in St. Louis again.

    The only question about Turley's status with the Rams was the timing of when the club chose to release him.

    The addition of Turley to the free agent market further crowds the pool of veterans at the tackle position. The key difference, though, is that veterans such as Chris Terry, Kenyatta Jones, Scott Gragg and Aaron Gibson are physically cleared to play in 2005. Turley is probably several months from having even a remote chance of getting back onto a field in 2005, and might have to wait until 2006.

    Within the last week, Dr. Robert Watkins, a Los Angeles back specialist who performed the surgery on Turley's disc in 2004, examined the offensive linemen and apprised him he needed several more months of rehabilitation. At that time, Turley remained optimistic he would play football again at some point.

    "The back is feeling really good," Turley said. "The biggest problem right now is the severe atrophy of my right leg muscles, and I've been struggling to overcome that. That's a rigorous and long process, but it's coming back, slowly but surely."

    Turley, 28, has made it clear he does not plan to retire. He will continue his rehabilitation and hopes to resume his career at some point, even if it means changing positions. A few months ago, Turley suggested he might come back as a defensive end, a position where he would not need as much weight, and which would submit his balky back to less strain.

    The former San Diego State star, acquired by the Rams from New Orleans in 2003, had surgery on a herniated disc...
    -06-07-2005, 01:40 PM
  • AvengerRam_old
    From PFW: Rams Interested in Schulters?/Any Teams Want Turley?
    by AvengerRam_old
    June 1 cuts add little depth to free-agent talent pool asks associate editor Jeff Reynolds for his thoughts on the hottest topics in the NFL.

    Few coveted veterans expected to hit the street

    One of the anticipated June 1 cap casualties, CB R.W. McQuarters, was released May 23. The number of veterans who could join him is expected to be relatively small as teams can begin parting with high-priced veterans to save money against the salary cap on Wednesday.

    PFW: Which players worthy of other teamsí interest could be available?

    Reynolds: Two players that teams believe have something left and are all but certain to become available are Titans FS Lance Schulters and Chiefs WR Johnnie Morton. Schulters turned 30 last week and is running without pain after missing 13 weeks with a foot injury in 2004. The Guyana-born cover safety was a perfect fit in the Titansí 4-6 defense because he had the combination of size, quickness and range to cover running backs, slot receivers and tight ends when necessary. Schulters could stay with the Titans, who picked up his roster bonus in March, but it would ultimately mean accepting a reduction in salary. Given the apparent interest from St. Louis, Dallas and Washington, donít be surprised to see Schulters set free.
    Morton is nothing more than a complementary receiver at this point. He signed a seven-year, $25.7 million contract with the Chiefs on March 29, 2002 after eight seasons with the Lions. In Detroit, Morton flashed the ability to perform as a No. 1 receiver in an offense that made it difficult to double-team the outside receivers. This year, the Chiefs encouraged Morton to stay away from offseason team activities ó a usual request to players about to be led to the chopping block ó and the sides have discussed a dramatically altered contract to reduce Mortonís cap figure below $3 million. There is a lot of doubt about what Morton has left to offer. He turns 34 in October and never had more than 55 catches or 795 yards receiving in a season.

    Two other players in whom teams could have mild interest include Redskins MLB Mike Barrow and Rams ORT Kyle Turley. Barrow is 35 and didnít log a snap with the Redskins due to a knee injury in í04. Washington has since signed Warrick Holdman to play inside, replacing Antonio Pierce (Giants), and doesnít figure to pick up the $2.2 million tab to keep Barrow around. Turley had back surgery and missed all of last season. Now, heís weighing closer to 250 pounds and telling friends he plans to return ó as a defensive lineman. Between the position switch and the fact that Turley has been thrown overboard on each of his pro teams (New Orleans and now St. Louis), itís a long shot that Turley is signed unless heís willing to play offensive tackle.
    -05-31-2005, 08:36 AM
  • WisRamsFan
    Turley Released
    by WisRamsFan
    Rams release veteran T Turley
    June 8, 2005

    ST. LOUIS (Ticker) - As expected, the St. Louis Rams released veteran tackle Kyle Turley, who failed his physical.

    Turley missed all of last season with a back injury and then essentially wrote his ticket out of St. Louis when he engaged in a shouting match with coach Mike Martz.

    The Rams waited until after June to waive Turley, splitting their salary cap hit to $1.82 million in 2005.

    Turley started every game at right tackle in 2003 for the Rams after being acquired from the New Orleans Saints for a second-round pick. However, he underwent surgery for a herniated disc in 2004 and was placed on injured reserve in August.

    Turley played at about 310 pounds at tackle, but his weight dropped to below 250 in the offseason.

    The Rams selected Florida State tackle Alex Barron in the first round of the April draft to replace Turley.
    -06-08-2005, 10:31 PM